Arianrhod
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Bernie is just like any other career politician, paid for.
Lol
By individual contributions, not a super PAC. Wouldn't expect you to understand the nuance.
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Bernie is just like any other career politician, paid for.
Lol
I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.
Effective in what way?
I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.
Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.
Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?
Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.
Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.
You managed to get it wrong on Sanders and right on Nationalist etc.For starters, the extreme right wing brand of nationalism is downright scary. I have no interest in nationalism and scapegoating migrants.
It doesn't surprise me that the idea of actually being required to show loyalty to the nation which is your home would be scary to the supporter of a candidate whose theme song should be "Imagine" by John Lennon (another Communist, like Mr Sanders).
Nationalism isn't about scapegoating immigrants, because in a properly Nationalist and Isolationist nation THERE ARE NO IMMIGRANTS. Which also means there are less theiving hands stealing money out of my paycheck every week to support them, and more jobs for us to tell the rest of the Welfare State to either... "Take the job, or lose your benefits."
So did you give him 10 more dollars? Makes me feel bad for the broke college kids using their lunch money for a socialist agenda. The democratic party...
LOL
NO, I gave him much more than that ...
Do you feel better when the richest people in the world are funding your candidate's campaign in exchange for corporate welfare and socialism? just asking ....
I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.
Effective in what way?
I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.
Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.
Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?
Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has
I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.
That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.
I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.
Effective in what way?
I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.
Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.
30+ years taking public pay. Name one accomplishment in 30 years. Not only him, many of them. He has been there for most of $19T debt, don't know that he stopped a dollar of it? Wants more GOVT before fixing the bad parts. I get more upset as I think about it. Like giving money to Junkies.
Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:
Because you want him to give you other people's property that you didn't lift a finger to help earn?
I've been a Sanders supporter since he announced he was running for any number of Real Life reasons. The double-plus-good part is discovering how many message board denizens are scared of a word they don't understand and don't want to understand.
I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.
Effective in what way?
I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.
Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.
Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?
Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has
I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.
That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.
Let me guess...
the D behind his name?
I've been a Sanders supporter since he announced he was running for any number of Real Life reasons. The double-plus-good part is discovering how many message board denizens are scared of a word they don't understand and don't want to understand.
You managed to get it wrong on Sanders.......
Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.
Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:
Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.
Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?
I'm not going to settle for Hillary.
Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.
However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.
Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"
Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.
I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).
Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.
Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?
Effective in what way?
I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.
Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.
Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?
Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has
I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.
That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.
Let me guess...
the D behind his name?
No.
As a lifelong unaffiliated voter, I've never been much impressed with the initial after a candidate's name.
McCain's ability to work with both sides of the aisle was only one factor in my decision-making process. And letting himself be talked into picking Caribou Barbie as his running mate showed a distinct lack of judgment and fortitude.
Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.
Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:
Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.
Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?
I'm not going to settle for Hillary.
Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.
However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.
Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"
Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.
I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).
Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.
Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?
I've been a Sanders supporter since he announced he was running for any number of Real Life reasons. The double-plus-good part is discovering how many message board denizens are scared of a word they don't understand and don't want to understand.
For starters, the extreme right wing brand of nationalism is downright scary. I have no interest in nationalism and scapegoating migrants.
It doesn't surprise me that the idea of actually being required to show loyalty to the nation which is your home would be scary to the supporter of a candidate whose theme song should be "Imagine" by John Lennon (another Communist, like Mr Sanders).
Nationalism isn't about scapegoating immigrants, because in a properly Nationalist and Isolationist nation THERE ARE NO IMMIGRANTS. Which also means there are less theiving hands stealing money out of my paycheck every week to support them, and more jobs for us to tell the rest of the Welfare State to either... "Take the job, or lose your benefits."