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Feeling the Bern?

Debra K

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Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.

Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.

Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?

I'm not going to settle for Hillary.

Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.

However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.

Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"

Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.

I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).

Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.

Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?
 

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No, I don't feel the Bern. The reason is that socialists want the power to spend your money the way they see fit. They live in a childmind state where they envision a country like a family with parental care and guidance. The more dependent your mentality the more socialism will appeal. I'm a very independent individual and will fight to be free.
 

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Wife lived right across the river from Vermont for lose to 50 years, and she has not one good word about Bernie and his liberal stances.
 

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Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.

Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.

Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?

I'm not going to settle for Hillary.

Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.

However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.

Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"

Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.

I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).

Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.

Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?

I've been a Sanders supporter since he announced he was running for any number of Real Life reasons. The double-plus-good part is discovering how many message board denizens are scared of a word they don't understand and don't want to understand.
 
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No, I don't feel the Bern. The reason is that socialists want the power to spend your money the way they see fit. They live in a childmind state where they envision a country like a family with parental care and guidance. The more dependent your mentality the more socialism will appeal. I'm a very independent individual and will fight to be free.

Fair enough. But isn't that true about all politicians? Why are we 17 Trillion Dollars in debt? Where did the money go? Obviously, Congress spent the money how they saw fit. What do average American citizens have to show for that debt? other than an obligation to pay it?
 

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I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.
 
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Wife lived right across the river from Vermont for lose to 50 years, and she has not one good word about Bernie and his liberal stances.

Please share. What are her complaints?
 

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Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Because you want him to give you other people's property that you didn't lift a finger to help earn?
 

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Debra, I'm most definitely NOT feeling the Bern. Nor am I supporting Hillary C*nton. Interestingly enough as of right now, the most likely choice for me in November will be to write my own name in on that line of the ballot, since I can't stand any of the Republican candidates either.

But, back to Mr. Sanders for a moment..... He's a Socialist. My ancestors moved here between 1660 and 1900 from European countries to GET AWAY FROM Government's that controlled everything in their contries. Governments that robbed some of the citizens to pay for the want and desires of others. Only in their cases it was the rich stealing from the middle/poor, and Mr Sanders would apparently prefer the poor to steal from the middle/rich. Robin Hood was a great legend, but it doesn't work in reality.

Do you really think these companies and individuals at the top will just sit around and allow the Government to run a scythe through their profits? Not gonna happen. They'll move the whole company and themseelves out of the country, not just their bank accounts. Likewise, as someone who makes $80K a year working for a living, the moment that it is no longer more prosperous for me to work than to sit around on my ass, like so many of Mr Sanders supporters, I will quit my job. It's not MY place to pay for everyone elses healthcare, higher education, etc....

Mr. Sanders needs to understand something..... In 1775 parts of my family took up arms because King George had his hand in their pockets. In 1861 parts of my family took up arms because the US Government was trying to steal their Rights. I'm more than happy to follow in the tradition and take up arms against a Government that wants to do BOTH at the same time.
 

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No, I don't feel the Bern. The reason is that socialists want the power to spend your money the way they see fit. They live in a childmind state where they envision a country like a family with parental care and guidance. The more dependent your mentality the more socialism will appeal. I'm a very independent individual and will fight to be free.

Fair enough. But isn't that true about all politicians? Why are we 17 Trillion Dollars in debt? Where did the money go? Obviously, Congress spent the money how they saw fit. What do average American citizens have to show for that debt? other than an obligation to pay it?
Well, it got doubled fairly recently and the economy isn't showing much in the way of results. No, not all politicians want us to be micro managed by DC bureaucrats, that's the hallmark of the left. Democrats have moved so far to the left there isn't a distinction between them and Bernie any more.
 

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Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Because you want him to give you other people's property that you didn't lift a finger to help earn?


I don't want anyone's property, I've already got my own, however, I would like to see some investment in THIS country for a change.
 

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I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.
Less baggage than Hillary? Isn't that like saying "weighs less than Christie".
 

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Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.

Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.

Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?

I'm not going to settle for Hillary.

Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.

However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.

Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"

Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.

I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).

Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.

Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?
No not really. I don't hate Sanders but I support Trump. Bernie would be the ONLY other possible candidate I would vote for and I would take a long hard look at voting for him IF Trump is not nominee.
 

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Wife lived right across the river from Vermont for lose to 50 years, and she has not one good word about Bernie and his liberal stances.

Please share. What are her complaints?


She wasn't specific, and by the tone she said it in, I wasn't about to ask



Well, that was a wholelotta nothing.


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I don't want anyone's property, I've already got my own, however, I would like to see some investment in THIS country for a change.

Then what you want is true Conservatism, which is made up of..... Nationalism, Traditionalism, Morality, and Isolationism. NOT Socialism.
 

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Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Because you want him to give you other people's property that you didn't lift a finger to help earn?


I don't want anyone's property, I've already got my own, however, I would like to see some investment in THIS country for a change.
That's what you're supposed to do. "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country". Someone ineligible for a seat at today's Democrat table said that.
 

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I don't hate Sanders but I support Trump. Bernie would be the ONLY other possible candidate I would vote for and I would take a long hard look at voting for him IF Trump is not nominee.
The ultimate socialist or the ultimate capitalist? You must have a toggle switch for a brain.
 

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