Feds say these nuts "Had to be Taken Down"

[NYcarbineer]

Who gets to say whether or not you're a Christian? Where's the rulebook on that?

 

[Care4all]

It's amazing that we can not even agree to agree that stopping these alleged terrorists was a good thing done by the FBI?

 

[random3434]

It's amazing that we can not even agree to agree that stopping these alleged terrorists was a good thing done by the FBI?

I think some, like Pubes and his ilk, are in denial. But if it was some sort of other type group he would be foaming at the mouth. That's what I can't stand, the hypocrisy.

LIVES WERE ALLEGDY SAVED< and he's going on about Unions and drinking beer? And calling for more militia?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Well...if their country hadn't been harboring an international terrorist organization that flew several planes into buildings in the "outside country" maybe the "outside country" wouldn't be bombing the ever-loving shit out of them and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Food for thought.

1) Who says they had AK47's when they were picked up? You know a lot of them were "dobbed in' by their neighbours.
2) Their country was? You are really naive when it comes to the inner mechanisms of how Afghanistan is run. I am not surprised at your lack of knowledge. Your inept conclusions and Jingoistic neocon populism that reeks out of every pore in your posts are there for all to see. As somebody rightly pointed out recently, Afghanistan is a tribal society, but having a PhD in brainfarts you try and attribute modern, western ideals to a tribal-based society.
3) Food for thought indeed.....

1) Who says they didn't have AK47's when they were picked up? You know a lot of them were not dobbed in by their neighbors.
2) You are really naive when it comes to the inner workings of Afghanistan and the U.S.A. and I'm not surprised by that either. Your inept conclusions and eurotrash socialist gibberish on this board reflect your supreme ignorance and intolerance of anyone's opinion other than your own. Your lofty opinion of yourself is only recognized by the stupidest of people in your little fantasy world you live in. Instead of fucking sheep why don't you get a job instead of sitting in your momma's basement and leaching off your fucked up racist government.

 

[Ravi]

It's amazing that we can not even agree to agree that stopping these alleged terrorists was a good thing done by the FBI?

Apparently white terrorist groups during the Obama administration are heroes.
Why that is true is beyond my comprehension.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Oh yes it does!!!!!!! You act like we invaded Afghanistan just for the hell of it and that's CLEARLY NOT THE CASE.

And you being an elitist neocon whackjob are claiming that some how the Afghanistani version of you (the Taliban) represented the Afghani people. They didn't. If some US airforce bombs my wedding and US politicos etc want to call my friends and family collateral damage, the chances of me picking up a weapon and wanting to shoot your arse are pretty high. And morally and ethically I'd be in the right. You'd be in the wrong.

My god you are truly one stupid person...apparently the Taliban DID in fact represent the government and people of Afghanistan...are you actually stupid enough to believe that the Taliban and Mullah Omar only had the support of the people in Kabul? If so I overestimated your intelligence...sorry....plus...you'd never get a shot off old timer...your too slow, can't see and a lousy shot.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

It's amazing that we can not even agree to agree that stopping these alleged terrorists was a good thing done by the FBI?

Apparently white terrorist groups during the Obama administration are heroes.
Why that is true is beyond my comprehension.

Please post proof of someone calling them heroes.

 

[Dutch]

I wonder if they were thinking of the ancient Native American tribe The Fucaree when they thought of their name. They used to wander lost in the the Black Hills greeting people with, "We're The Fucaree."

 

[Contumacious]

Feds say these nuts "Had to be Taken Down"

Really? They said that? By golly it must be true.

No one can say that they like to torture Americans . Nor that they would later incinerate / gas the poor victims.

Waco: The Rules of Engagement

 

[blu]

I don't get it.. you're for freeing the alleged MUSLIM terrorists...

and for jailing the alleged CHRISTIAN terrorists.....

Something about that smells funny.

The evidence collected by the FBI and other US agencies is pretty transparent and looks like the real deal.

The alleged Muslim terrorists less so. In fact, in many cases they are murky to say the least and not open to public scrutiny, which these summary of facts will be.

And most people are for freeing the alleged Muslim terrorists if there in no evidence to state otherwise.

However, I would go one step further and would love to know what evidence there is to show that the Gitmo prisoners are terrorists in the first place. At least with this Michigan ijits there are some allegations on the table, with some reasonable anecdotal evidence to back up the arrests...

For the terminally stupid who live in other country's and pretend to know all about America...let me break it down for you....
When you're captured on the field of battle with an AK-47, after shooting in the direction of U.S. troops screaming "Allahu Akbar!!!"...I think that THAT little factoid basically says...this guy is pretty much an ENEMY OF AMERICA.

Try to keep up. If you can't we have great medical care until it collapses in about 3 years...you could come here and get treated for your case of brainfartitus.

and what about the ones captured in wide sweeping raids or "rounds ups" of market areas

 

[blu]

The evidence collected by the FBI and other US agencies is pretty transparent and looks like the real deal.

The alleged Muslim terrorists less so. In fact, in many cases they are murky to say the least and not open to public scrutiny, which these summary of facts will be.

And most people are for freeing the alleged Muslim terrorists if there in no evidence to state otherwise.

However, I would go one step further and would love to know what evidence there is to show that the Gitmo prisoners are terrorists in the first place. At least with this Michigan ijits there are some allegations on the table, with some reasonable anecdotal evidence to back up the arrests...

For the terminally stupid who live in other country's and pretend to know all about America...let me break it down for you....
When you're captured on the field of battle with an AK-47, after shooting in the direction of U.S. troops screaming "Allahu Akbar!!!"...I think that THAT little factoid basically says...this guy is pretty much an ENEMY OF AMERICA.

Try to keep up. If you can't we have great medical care until it collapses in about 3 years...you could come here and get treated for your case of brainfartitus.

Let's just play devil's advocate, here.

When an outside country invades your country and bombs the ever loving shit out of your friends and family, and threatens to kill you too unless you lay down and comply, what else do you expect the indigenous people to do besides act on their instinct to protect THEIR country and people?

Not every single person on the "battlefield" sees us as liberators. And you can't necessarily blame them, either. Some people just don't fucking want us there at all. That should be their choice, seeing as how it's THEIR country.

So if they pick up a weapon and defend their neighborhood, it's not necessarily because they're "enemies of the USA".

Food for thought.

great post

 

[blu]

For the terminally stupid who live in other country's and pretend to know all about America...let me break it down for you....
When you're captured on the field of battle with an AK-47, after shooting in the direction of U.S. troops screaming "Allahu Akbar!!!"...I think that THAT little factoid basically says...this guy is pretty much an ENEMY OF AMERICA.

Try to keep up. If you can't we have great medical care until it collapses in about 3 years...you could come here and get treated for your case of brainfartitus.

Let's just play devil's advocate, here.

When an outside country invades your country and bombs the ever loving shit out of your friends and family, and threatens to kill you too unless you lay down and comply, what else do you expect the indigenous people to do besides act on their instinct to protect THEIR country and people?

Not every single person on the "battlefield" sees us as liberators. And you can't necessarily blame them, either. Some people just don't fucking want us there at all. That should be their choice, seeing as how it's THEIR country.

So if they pick up a weapon and defend their neighborhood, it's not necessarily because they're "enemies of the USA".

Food for thought.

Well...if their country hadn't been harboring an international terrorist organization that flew several planes into buildings in the "outside country" maybe the "outside country" wouldn't be bombing the ever-loving shit out of them and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Food for thought.

do you realize how few people in that country were part of the harboring (.0001% or so)? also, afghanistan said they would give bin laden over if we showed evidence he was behind it. we didn't

 

[blu]

Well...if their country hadn't been harboring an international terrorist organization that flew several planes into buildings in the "outside country" maybe the "outside country" wouldn't be bombing the ever-loving shit out of them and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Food for thought.

A random guy on the battlefield who feels the need to pick up a gun and defend his neighborhood from an invading army has nothing to do with whether or not his country supported terrorism.

All I'm saying is that not every foreign combatant is automatically an enemy of the USA.

If someone invaded us tomorrow, and their army came rolling through your neighborhood, you'd pick up a fucking gun and fight if one was available to you. And you would probably do it regardless of the publicly stated intentions of the invading nation. Because if you don't want them in your neighborhood, you don't want them in your neighborhood. None of that would have anything to do with what your government was or wasn't responsible for.

Oh yes it does!!!!!!! You act like we invaded Afghanistan just for the hell of it and that's CLEARLY NOT THE CASE.

what does our reasons have to do with it? we invaded peoples neighbordhoods that had nothing to with bin laden, 9/11 or terrorism.

 

[blu]

Feds: Christian militia needed to be 'taken down' - Yahoo! News


I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't been caught? What kind of bloodshed would have happened? Thank you FBI!

Oh the list of chronically unemployed Union thug, entitlement minded Democrats who are going to be determined to take the government by force is ENDLESS... and I'm all for takin' 'em all down.

Of course we haven't even BEGUN TO SEE even the edge of the nutball...

Wait until November, when the Left is kicked to the curb... I suspect it's gonna get very interestin'...

Odds are a fair percentage of these cranks will actually try to find ways to hook up with their allies in Islam; and we should see quite a Left-fest when the Legislature defunds Obama sCare... and the media starts to focus on the starving ranks of the chronically unemployed... and has little interviews with little crank groups yucking it up in little shacks out in the woods... talking about how they are ENTITLED to a JOB... HOUSING... HEALTHCARE and the government isn't providing it.

And the same idiots that are here crying over the faux-'Christian Militia' will be proudly declaring that 'its ON!'...

I always knew you were a left wing troll trying to make republicans look bad

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Who gets to say whether or not you're a Christian? Where's the rulebook on that?

Well that would be Christ... anyone can claim to be a Christian; but it's a rare Christian that plots to strip an innocent of their life; particularly on the justification that they're going to be taking on that which Christ himself will be dealing with personally.

Ya see, those who believe in the Anti-Christ are hard pressed to not recognize that such represents the pending rapture... so there can't be better news than a beast sighting.

I can't tell ya what these people believed, except that the evidence is fairly clear, that they were intent on bustin' it off in the man and that's more of a Bill Ayers thing than that of Jesus Christ.

 

[Dr Grump]

1) Who says they didn't have AK47's when they were picked up? You know a lot of them were not dobbed in by their neighbors.
2) You are really naive when it comes to the inner workings of Afghanistan and the U.S.A. and I'm not surprised by that either. Your inept conclusions and eurotrash socialist gibberish on this board reflect your supreme ignorance and intolerance of anyone's opinion other than your own. Your lofty opinion of yourself is only recognized by the stupidest of people in your little fantasy world you live in. Instead of fucking sheep why don't you get a job instead of sitting in your momma's basement and leaching off your fucked up racist government.

Keep you Clueless Wonder....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Well, I don't know if that part is alleged, I mean, that is in fact what the name of the group translates to, isn't it?

Hutaree = "Christian Warriors" or something like that?

so....you ever hear of the Golden State WARRIORS....

what i find Hypercritical about this is there are street gangs in all the big cities who kill people every week,deal in hard core drugs,weapons smuggling...the feds i guess dont think these guys are "nuts" and need to be taken down....

 

[Queen]

The uncomfortable ugly bottom line is this: so long as we run secret prisons across the globe we, as a Nation, have no authority to speak about a justice system.

For this particular case....it's too close to a Minority Report minus all three pre-cogs. It's similar to the recent arrest of an individual based on what they "thought" he was going to do.

We have given up concrete Rights for a cotton candy Homeland Security Umbrella. As disturbing as the reports are, I have yet to see anything solid they will be convicted on.

So you don't believe these people are Christian 'warriors' of the anti-government group Hutaree?

What exactly do you think they were up to if not to kill the police, as the FBI has found their plan to be?

And what's your source of information?

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

Queen, you slobbering idiot. In this country, the US, it isn't the job of people to PROVE INNOCENCE. Get it? Huh? Rather, you PROVE GUILT.

Fucking moron.

Wow you totally win with all those curse words. I'm so impressed.

Meanwhile, that's not an answer to what I asked. I bet you don't even understand this conversation. That's why you had to resort to the lowest form of argument.

 

[Harry Dresden]

They do sound pretty crazed. And they actually have weapons, apparently.

so do street gangs....like the MS 13 gangs (Mara Salvatrucha) .....these guys are more blood thirsty then those white rednecks....but these guys dont matter....apparently...

 

[Valerie]

Feds: Christian militia needed to be 'taken down' - Yahoo! News


I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't been caught? What kind of bloodshed would have happened? Thank you FBI!

Yes, thank you.

The changes in David Brian Stone's personal theology partly destroyed his marriage, his former wife says, and prosecutors claim they later led him to hatch a plot to kill police officers — a violent act the militia hoped would touch off an uprising against the government.

"The time had come that we needed to arrest them and take them down," U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said Tuesday in an interview with The Associated Press.

Prosecutors believe that Stone, 44, of Clayton, is the ringleader of the Hutaree militia, a name the group's Web site says they created to mean "Christian warrior." He was among eight members arrested during a series of weekend raids in three Midwestern states, which federal officials said they carried out after monitoring the group since last summer and learning they planned to launch their attack next month.

A ninth defendant — Stone's son, Joshua Matthew Stone — turned himself in late Monday night following an hours-long standoff with FBI agents and police near a wooded area southwest of Detroit the group had used for training. He and the others face charges that include seditious conspiracy, or plotting to levy war against the U.S.

Each of the suspects has requested a public defender, and bond hearings are scheduled for Wednesday.