Federal Reserve could blow up the housing market soon.

[DarthTrader]

Right. If the Fed sells any bonds, ever, it all implodes!!!!

LOL!

Name a time the FED ever sold any bonds from its QE? Ever? Go on lol. You don't seem to have a very good understanding of anything.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No it doesn't. God you literally don't know how markets work do you? If you put something on the market that people DO NOT WANT TO BUY the bid will drop until someone wants to buy it. PERIOD.

MBS's with a lower yield than what is selling now is why for instance that the MBS market has already lost 15%. People don't want lower yield securities so they are being marked down.

The FED adding to that selling pressure with bonds of even lower yield than are being sold now is an easy disaster waiting to happen.

If you put something on the market that people DO NOT WANT TO BUY the bid will drop until someone wants to buy it.

If volumes are $300 billion a day, why do you feel no one wants to buy?

MBS's with a lower yield than what is selling now is why for instance that the MBS market has already lost 15%. People don't want lower yield securities so they are being marked down.

You didn't say they were marked down, you said "no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"

What did you mean?

 

[DarthTrader]

If you put something on the market that people DO NOT WANT TO BUY the bid will drop until someone wants to buy it.

If volumes are $300 billion a day, why do you feel no one wants to buy?

MBS's with a lower yield than what is selling now is why for instance that the MBS market has already lost 15%. People don't want lower yield securities so they are being marked down.

You didn't say they were marked down, you said "no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"

What did you mean?

Because the bid is so much lower. God damn you're really ignorant of things LOLOL.

Why did FB implode 50%, or TSLA, or NFLX or choose your pick.

They have such big big volumes....wow such big "liqudity".

Not.

You don't know what liquidity is or how it works.

It's funny you can't get over "no market" comment.

Fuck off poser.

Everyone here can see plain as day what was discussed in the video in the first thread. The Bond market is about to get a bunch of bonds dumped on their head....bonds no one wants.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Name a time the FED ever sold any bonds from its QE? Ever? Go on lol. You don't seem to have a very good understanding of anything.

If the Fed sells $15 billion in Treasuries, is that worse than if Fidelity sold $15 billion?

 

[DarthTrader]

Dumbass Toddsterpatriot literally argues against FEDERAL RESERVE BOND TRADERS in the opening thread.

LOLOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Because the bid is so much lower. God damn you're really ignorant of things LOLOL.

Why did FB implode 50%, or TSLA, or NFLX or choose your pick.

They have such big big volumes....wow such big "liqudity".

Not.

You don't know what liquidity is or how it works.

Because the bid is so much lower.

Right. The price is lower.

"no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"

But what did you mean here?

 

[DarthTrader]

If the Fed sells $15 billion in Treasuries, is that worse than if Fidelity sold $15 billion?

Is Fidelity dumping bonds right now? Or is there a market/bid for them? LOLOL.

Look fucking dumb ass. You're literally arguing against Federal Reserve bond traders. LOLOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dumbass Toddsterpatriot literally argues against FEDERAL RESERVE BOND TRADERS in the opening thread.

LOLOL

You're not a FEDERAL RESERVE BOND TRADER.

 

[DarthTrader]

Because the bid is so much lower.

Right. The price is lower.

"no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"

But what did you mean here?

I meant that at some point the price hits people's margin call and the market freezes up and "implodes". Prices plummet, liquidity freezes, and we have another 2008 crisis.

 

[DarthTrader]

You're not a FEDERAL RESERVE BOND TRADER.

I'm simply quoting them, moron. LOLOL

But you never once addressed any of their points in the video. MORON. You're literally a fucking moron. Biggest moron on this forum.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is Fidelity dumping bonds right now? Or is there a market/bid for them? LOLOL.

Look fucking dumb ass. You're literally arguing against Federal Reserve bond traders. LOLOL

Is Fidelity dumping bonds right now?

Maybe. Are their Treasuries and MBS different from the Fed's?

You're literally arguing against Federal Reserve bond traders.

Which one of them said there is "no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I meant that at some point the price hits people's margin call and the market freezes up and "implodes". Prices plummet, liquidity freezes, and we have another 2008 crisis.

Right.

But what did you mean here "no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"?

 

[DarthTrader]

Is Fidelity dumping bonds right now?

Maybe. Are their Treasuries and MBS different from the Fed's?

You're literally arguing against Federal Reserve bond traders.

Which one of them said there is "no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"?

Yes lol. For one - they are already PRICED in as market participants part of that "$300billion pool".

I literally linked to the exact moment they start talking about how the dumping of FED bonds will freeze up the market.

The fact you're so stuck on "no market for MBS" proves how fucking dumb you are.

Ever heard of hyperbole etc? Fucking grow up dumb ass

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm simply quoting them, moron. LOLOL

But you never once addressed any of their points in the video. MORON. You're literally a fucking moron. Biggest moron on this forum.

They never said...
"There is NO MARKET for mortgage backed securities that pay LESS than the market rates"

 

[DarthTrader]

Right.

But what did you mean here "no market for MBS that pays less than market rate"?

You're still stuck on hyperbolic speech. What a fucking moron.

There was still a market in MBS in 2008. But it still destroyed the US economy. MORON

 

[DarthTrader]

They never said...
"There is NO MARKET for mortgage backed securities that pay LESS than the market rates"

Boohoo, fucking loser. Debate the statement of the thread title. You're such a fucking loser.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes lol. For one - they are already PRICED in as market participants part of that "$300billion pool".

I literally linked to the exact moment they start talking about how the dumping of FED bonds will freeze up the market.

The fact you're so stuck on "no market for MBS" proves how fucking dumb you are.

Ever heard of hyperbole etc? Fucking grow up dumb ass

For one - they are already PRICED in as market participants part of that "$300billion pool".

So? Does that make their trade better or worse for the market? Why?

I literally linked to the exact moment they start talking about how the dumping of FED bonds will freeze up the market.

You didn't link to any traders working for the Fed who said that.

The fact you're so stuck on "no market for MBS" proves how fucking dumb you are.

Well, you have to admit, that was a really fucking stupid claim you made.

 

[DarthTrader]

For one - they are already PRICED in as market participants part of that "$300billion pool".

So? Does that make their trade better or worse for the market? Why?

I literally linked to the exact moment they start talking about how the dumping of FED bonds will freeze up the market.

You didn't link to any traders working for the Fed who said that.

The fact you're so stuck on "no market for MBS" proves how fucking dumb you are.

Well, you have to admit, that was a really fucking stupid claim you made.

It's not important if Fidelity's trade is better or worse LOL.

Yes I quite did link to it, you've proven you haven't watched the 1hr+ long video.

If FED has to dump any MBS bonds onto the market it will tank the price and "break things".

There is that a better way of phrasing it? Fucking retard.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're still stuck on hyperbolic speech.

So when you said no market, you really meant there was a market.

Thanks for pulling your head out of your ass to admit your error.

Speaking of really fucking stupid claims, you ever prove that Japan and Russia are shrinking their money supply?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's not important if Fidelity's trade is better or worse LOL.

Sure it is. If non-Fed traders can sell $300 billion a day without imploding the market, the Fed selling less than $1 billion a day will hardly be noticed.