Federal judge appears skeptical probationary firings were for performance

[Meister]

The people who were let go care if it was done as part of a reduction in force or because of poor performance.

It will impact their ability to get future employment or to be rehired in the government

Why is Trump such a prick to the people that work for him?

Who said it was poor performance? Want to link the person who said it?

Or, is the left trying to give the worst possible scenario to fit their mantra?
Not like that never happens with your ilk.

 

[rightwinger]

Who said it was poor performance? Want to link the person who said it?

Or, is the left trying to give the worst possible scenario to fit their mantra?
Not like that never happens with your ilk.

It is in their termination letter

'It's a lie': Federal workers incensed by performance language in termination letters

'It's a lie': Federal workers incensed by performance language in termination letters

Letters sent to federal workers say they are being terminated "based on your performance." But workers told USA TODAY they had no performance issues.

www.usatoday.com

 

[WorldWatcher]

Then you have unemployment issues.

Here in VA maximum unemployment is $378 per week for 26 weeks. That's $9828 for 1/2 year when you were making - say - $75,000. $9828 to cover rent/mortgage, food, utilities, etc.

And with unemployment office being inundated with applications, there is no telling how long it will take to get it started.

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Laid-off federal workers are overwhelming states with unemployment requests, putting a strain on finances

Some states, such as Maryland, are receiving 30 to 60 unemployment assistance requests from federal workers per day

www.yahoo.com

 

[Meister]

It is in their termination letter

I guess we have to take your word for it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Who said it was poor performance? Want to link the person who said it?

Yes, any Vet working for the government is obviously a slacker.

Profile in slacker, people need to share the stories of the slackers:

• Retired US Army 1st Sgt.
• 12 Years Federal employment with the VA
• Selected for promotion (which means doing a good job)
• Fired by Musk because the 12 year VA employee and Army retiree was "probationary"
• Now looking for work in his early 50's

NOTE1 : While the link doesn't say "retired", it takes about 15 years to reach the rank of 1st Sgt. It would be a very rare case indeed for someone to get a promotion to 1st Sgt at 15 years do the required time in grade (IIRC 2 years) then get out shy of 20 years.

NOTE 2: Age assumption comes from enlisting at 18 + 20 Years in the Army + 12 Years in the VA = 50 and it's likely he did a little more than 20 years in the Army.

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‘We’ve been betrayed:’ Local veterans angry after being laid off by Trump administration

The VA announced it would cut more than 1,000 jobs on Thursday to save $93 million a year.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[rightwinger]

I guess we have to take your word for it.

Fired probationary employees interviewed by USA TODAY all said they were never told of any performance problems. One hadn’t been in the job long enough to have a performance review. Another was fired just a month into her job after relocating from more than 1,700 miles away to take it. And a third employee said his supervisor explicitly told him he wasn’t being terminated for performance reasons.

 

[Meister]

Yes, any Vet working for the government is obviously a slacker.

Profile in slacker, people need to share the stories of the slackers:

• Retired US Army 1st Sgt.
• 12 Years Federal employment with the VA
• Selected for promotion (which means doing a good job)
• Fired by Musk because the 12 year VA employee and Army retiree was "probationary"
• Now looking for work in his early 50's

NOTE1 : While the link doesn't say "retired", it takes about 15 years to reach the rank of 1st Sgt. It would be a very rare case indeed for someone to get a promotion to 1st Sgt at 15 years do the required time in grade (IIRC 2 years) then get out shy of 20 years.

NOTE 2: Age assumption comes from enlisting at 18 + 20 Years in the Army + 12 Years in the VA = 50 and it's likely he did a little more than 20 years in the Army.

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‘We’ve been betrayed:’ Local veterans angry after being laid off by Trump administration

The VA announced it would cut more than 1,000 jobs on Thursday to save $93 million a year.

www.wsbtv.com

I didn't read where he was laid off for "poor performance".
Now the goal post seems to have been moved by your tribe.

 

[WEATHER53]

The grotesque overreach continues and expands as judges now feel they can impose their wishes on who can be fired.

 

[Meister]

Fired probationary employees interviewed by USA TODAY all said they were never told of any performance problems. One hadn’t been in the job long enough to have a performance review. Another was fired just a month into her job after relocating from more than 1,700 miles away to take it. And a third employee said his supervisor explicitly told him he wasn’t being terminated for performance reasons.

Well, then it wasn't for poor performance like you stated earlier.
It was because they were still probationary.

 

[Bootstraps]

They're probationary. They can be let go at anytime for practically anything. Such workers have very few securities in place for them.

 

[WorldWatcher]

That's because you didn't read the linked article.

Here let me help you.

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[rightwinger]

Well, then it wasn't for poor performance like you stated earlier.
It was because they were still probationary.

Are you fucking stupid or just being an asshole?

My claim was that termination letters to probationary employees said it was for poor performance and not because their probation was terminated
Read post 19

 

[WorldWatcher]

The grotesque overreach continues and judges now feel they can impose their wishes on who can be fired.

It's not over reach when the courts are dealing with who can be fired.

The courts are dealing with were the firing conducted in a legal manner according to the law. The law the President is required to faithfully execute.

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[Meister]

Then you have unemployment issues.

Here in VA maximum unemployment is $378 per week for 26 weeks. That's $9828 for 1/2 year when you were making - say - $75,000. $9828 to cover rent/mortgage, food, utilities, etc.

And with unemployment office being inundated with applications, there is no telling how long it will take to get it started.

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Laid-off federal workers are overwhelming states with unemployment requests, putting a strain on finances

Some states, such as Maryland, are receiving 30 to 60 unemployment assistance requests from federal workers per day

www.yahoo.com

That's because you didn't read the linked article.

Here let me help you.

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Doesn't say "poor performance", the left threw that in their narrative. There are a lot of reasons based on performance.
And it sure wouldn't prohibit them from getting hired in the government in the future.

 

[Meister]

Are you fucking stupid or just being an asshole?

My claim was that termination letters to probationary employees said it was for poor performance and not because their probation was terminated
Read post 19

It didn't say poor performance. What's wrong with you?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Doesn't say "poor performance", the left threw that in their narrative. There are a lot of reasons based on performance.
And it sure wouldn't prohibit them from getting hired in the government in the future.

In what world do the words "poor performance" means it doesn't say "poor performance"?

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[Meister]

In what world do the words "poor performance" means it doesn't say "poor performance"?

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"Based on performance" can mean a lot of things, and "poor performance" is pretty self explanatory.
This isn't rocket science.

 

[WorldWatcher]

"Based on performance" can mean a lot of things, and "poor performance" is pretty self explanatory.
This isn't rocket science.

I know it's not rocket science.

Not a lot of lying goes into rocket science, unlike denying that poor performance termination letters/email don't really say "poor performance".

Have a nice day.

WW

 

[Meister]

I know it's not rocket science.

Not a lot of lying goes into rocket science, unlike denying that poor performance termination letters/email don't really say "poor performance".

Have a nice day.

WW

Look, you are the one who injected "poor performance", not me.
I'm assuming a lot of those jobs have a learning curve to get up to speed.
You don't come in and up to speed in a couple of hours, it could take weeks or months
to get up to speed. That would fall under being terminated for "Based on performance".
That would not be considered "Poor performance".
Keep dancing WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Look, you are the one who injected "poor performance", not me.
I'm assuming a lot of those jobs have a learning curve to get up to speed.
You don't come in and up to speed in a couple of hours, it could take weeks or months
to get up to speed. That would fall under being terminated for "Based on performance".
That would not be considered "Poor performance".
Keep dancing WW

I didn't inject "poor performance".

It was in the citation provided based on your request.

WW