Federal Disaster Relief is Unconstitutional

TNHarley

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I know it sounds harsh but its true. Giving an inch here and there is why our COTUS is basically null.
I do believe, however, relief can be Constitutional by applying equal amounts to all states
Article IV, Section 2 states: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Among the powers granted by the Constitution to the federal government are:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts... (Patents & Copyrights);

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States…;

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof

In 1822, James MOnroe vetoed a bill that would was to repair and preserve Cumberland Road. He said "Congress’s power to spend was restricted “to purposes of common defence, and of general, national, not local, or state, benefit"

In 1796, Savannah Georgia had a massive fire that damaged the entire city. The fourth congress decided the fed govt didnt have the power to provide relief. They did receive over 40K in donations.

Now look at us. FEMA, ATF, NSA, judicial review, warrantless wiretapping, SS, gun control, no fly lists, political spying, federal school regulations.. Hek, a MAJORITY of what our Fed Govt does is unconstitutional.
I dont do shit about it. You dont do shit about it. Very few even make our voice publically known. All we do is scream at each other anonymously on the internet.
This is our fault.
 
Nobody hates Tex's ass more than I do, but...
Oh! You're talking about Texas!
lol Im talking about in general. None of it is constitutional. It might be necessary alot of the time, but we have a way to do it legally...
Lazy fuckers
 
Sweet.

What does the Constitution say about giving taxpayer money to squatters?
 
Sweet.

What does the Constitution say about giving taxpayer money to squatters?
What do you think? General welfare doesnt mean individuals.

The US Constitution is the blueprint for our government. People sneaking into the country have no say.
I thought you meant something else lol..
Of course they dont. Fuck em
Its SUPPOSED to be the "blue print" for our govt. Instead, they have construed it to mean whatever in the fuck they want.
 
What an untimely topic while people are fighting for their very survival.
 
I know it sounds harsh but its true. Giving an inch here and there is why our COTUS is basically null.
I do believe, however, relief can be Constitutional by applying equal amounts to all states
Article IV, Section 2 states: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Among the powers granted by the Constitution to the federal government are:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts... (Patents & Copyrights);

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States…;

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof

In 1822, James MOnroe vetoed a bill that would was to repair and preserve Cumberland Road. He said "Congress’s power to spend was restricted “to purposes of common defence, and of general, national, not local, or state, benefit"

In 1796, Savannah Georgia had a massive fire that damaged the entire city. The fourth congress decided the fed govt didnt have the power to provide relief. They did receive over 40K in donations.

Now look at us. FEMA, ATF, NSA, judicial review, warrantless wiretapping, SS, gun control, no fly lists, political spying, federal school regulations.. Hek, a MAJORITY of what our Fed Govt does is unconstitutional.
I dont do shit about it. You dont do shit about it. Very few even make our voice publically known. All we do is scream at each other anonymously on the internet.
This is our fault.

You left out the first clause, did you forget or was it intentional and thus a lie by omission?
 
I know it sounds harsh but its true. Giving an inch here and there is why our COTUS is basically null.
I do believe, however, relief can be Constitutional by applying equal amounts to all states
Article IV, Section 2 states: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Among the powers granted by the Constitution to the federal government are:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts... (Patents & Copyrights);

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States…;

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof

In 1822, James MOnroe vetoed a bill that would was to repair and preserve Cumberland Road. He said "Congress’s power to spend was restricted “to purposes of common defence, and of general, national, not local, or state, benefit"

In 1796, Savannah Georgia had a massive fire that damaged the entire city. The fourth congress decided the fed govt didnt have the power to provide relief. They did receive over 40K in donations.

Now look at us. FEMA, ATF, NSA, judicial review, warrantless wiretapping, SS, gun control, no fly lists, political spying, federal school regulations.. Hek, a MAJORITY of what our Fed Govt does is unconstitutional.
I dont do shit about it. You dont do shit about it. Very few even make our voice publically known. All we do is scream at each other anonymously on the internet.
This is our fault.

You left out the first clause, did you forget or was it intentional anld thus a lie by omission?
lol go ahead and post it cause it will change every thing :lol:
 
I know it sounds harsh but its true. Giving an inch here and there is why our COTUS is basically null.
I do believe, however, relief can be Constitutional by applying equal amounts to all states
Article IV, Section 2 states: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Among the powers granted by the Constitution to the federal government are:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts... (Patents & Copyrights);

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States…;

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof

In 1822, James MOnroe vetoed a bill that would was to repair and preserve Cumberland Road. He said "Congress’s power to spend was restricted “to purposes of common defence, and of general, national, not local, or state, benefit"

In 1796, Savannah Georgia had a massive fire that damaged the entire city. The fourth congress decided the fed govt didnt have the power to provide relief. They did receive over 40K in donations.

Now look at us. FEMA, ATF, NSA, judicial review, warrantless wiretapping, SS, gun control, no fly lists, political spying, federal school regulations.. Hek, a MAJORITY of what our Fed Govt does is unconstitutional.
I dont do shit about it. You dont do shit about it. Very few even make our voice publically known. All we do is scream at each other anonymously on the internet.
This is our fault.

You left out the first clause, did you forget or was it intentional anld thus a lie by omission?
lol go ahead and post it cause it will change every thing :lol:
I know it sounds harsh but its true. Giving an inch here and there is why our COTUS is basically null.
I do believe, however, relief can be Constitutional by applying equal amounts to all states
Article IV, Section 2 states: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Among the powers granted by the Constitution to the federal government are:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts... (Patents & Copyrights);

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States…;

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof

In 1822, James MOnroe vetoed a bill that would was to repair and preserve Cumberland Road. He said "Congress’s power to spend was restricted “to purposes of common defence, and of general, national, not local, or state, benefit"

In 1796, Savannah Georgia had a massive fire that damaged the entire city. The fourth congress decided the fed govt didnt have the power to provide relief. They did receive over 40K in donations.

Now look at us. FEMA, ATF, NSA, judicial review, warrantless wiretapping, SS, gun control, no fly lists, political spying, federal school regulations.. Hek, a MAJORITY of what our Fed Govt does is unconstitutional.
I dont do shit about it. You dont do shit about it. Very few even make our voice publically known. All we do is scream at each other anonymously on the internet.
This is our fault.

You left out the first clause, did you forget or was it intentional anld thus a lie by omission?
lol go ahead and post it cause it will change every thing :lol:

Clause 1, Art. I, section 8

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

If a wall is being proposed for the common Defense, why aren't dams, canals and shelters for natural disasters, protections from infectious disease and repairing and replacing our nation infrastructure for the general Welfare?
 
I know it sounds harsh but its true. Giving an inch here and there is why our COTUS is basically null.
I do believe, however, relief can be Constitutional by applying equal amounts to all states
Article IV, Section 2 states: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Among the powers granted by the Constitution to the federal government are:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts... (Patents & Copyrights);

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States…;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States…;

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof

In 1822, James MOnroe vetoed a bill that would was to repair and preserve Cumberland Road. He said "Congress’s power to spend was restricted “to purposes of common defence, and of general, national, not local, or state, benefit"

In 1796, Savannah Georgia had a massive fire that damaged the entire city. The fourth congress decided the fed govt didnt have the power to provide relief. They did receive over 40K in donations.

Now look at us. FEMA, ATF, NSA, judicial review, warrantless wiretapping, SS, gun control, no fly lists, political spying, federal school regulations.. Hek, a MAJORITY of what our Fed Govt does is unconstitutional.
I dont do shit about it. You dont do shit about it. Very few even make our voice publically known. All we do is scream at each other anonymously on the internet.
This is our fault.

You left out the first clause, did you forget or was it intentional and thus a lie by omission?
lol go ahead and post it cause it will change every thing :lol:

Answer the question!
 
On principle I agree with you. States like Texas that are susceptible to these sorts of disasters should have money saved to deal with it. However government doesn't save shit. It spends money faster than it can take it in.

This is my state, and I am grateful the feds stepped in to help our people out.

 
Federal ald went directly to the states and to people during the Great Depression sent by both Hoover and FDR. FDR and his New Deal sent more aid and worked on programs to keep a Great Depression from happening again.
 

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