Federal Court Shoots Down Concealed Carry in California

Juan de Fuca

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I truly wish we could have courageous legislatures to throw out all laws and start over with well thought out laws that protects gun owners and soothe the nerves of non gun owners. It won't happen but I like to dream.

A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

By a vote of 7-4, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco upheld a California law that requires gun owners to show a good reason before they can get a license to carry a concealed handgun.

"The protection of the Second Amendment — whatever the scope of that protection may be — simply does not extend to the carrying of concealed firearms in public by members of the general public."

The court declined to say whether the Constitution protects openly carrying a gun in public. It said that question was not at issue in the case.

Gun owners in two California counties challenged the requirement that they show "good cause," as defined by county sheriffs, before they could get concealed carry permits.

Thursday's majority opinion traced the rights of gun owners from medieval England to the founding of the United States and through the Civil War, finding that local laws almost universally prohibited carrying concealed firearms in public. Appeals Court Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
 
It doesnt state in the 2nd amendment you have a right to have a concealed weapon.
You have a right to BEAR arms, and concealed carry is merely a polite way of doing so.

If you want Open Carry across the country, thats fine by me. I used to do it all the time.
 
The 9th Circus Court of Appeals is the most overturned Federal court in the nation.

They're probably about to add to that score.

Even though I believe current doctrine is wrong and states should have the right to make gun laws, under current reading of the law, I don't see how this could POSSIBLY survive appeal.

I can't even see how THIS court could ignore Moore v Madigan where a federal court already ruled that concealed carry is a protected right.
 
It doesnt state in the 2nd amendment you have a right to have a concealed weapon.
You have a right to BEAR arms, and concealed carry is merely a polite way of doing so.

If you want Open Carry across the country, thats fine by me. I used to do it all the time.
You dont even have a right to bear arms unless you are part of the militia.
 
It doesnt state in the 2nd amendment you have a right to have a concealed weapon.
You have a right to BEAR arms, and concealed carry is merely a polite way of doing so.

If you want Open Carry across the country, thats fine by me. I used to do it all the time.
You dont even have a right to bear arms unless you are part of the militia.

In most states, everyone is part of the militia.
Nope. Show me even one example of that.
 

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