Fear is anti-American

What IS the point of the OP then? I obviously missed it unless it's sarcasm.

fear is anti-american.

it's a simple declarative sentence.

perhaps it's above your intellectual paygrade?


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So it should be accepted as truth? Even if it's philosophical premise is faulty?

I see. That makes total sense...

If you are a leftist I guess.

oooh, the l word.

is your premise then that fear is pro-american?
 
fear is anti-american.

it's a simple declarative sentence.

perhaps it's above your intellectual paygrade?


:eusa_whistle:
So it should be accepted as truth? Even if it's philosophical premise is faulty?

I see. That makes total sense...

If you are a leftist I guess.

oooh, the l word.

is your premise then that fear is pro-american?
Fear is neither American or Anti-American. It is a universal emotional fact of the human condition. Fear is.

So is love
hate
desire
worry
jealousy
sympathy...

The premise is flawed because fear has no political affiliation. It may be used as an emotional tool for all sorts of things from politics to religion to relationships.

The reason I bring up the "L" word is because it seems to be a proponderance of leftists who cannot separate anything in life from the political. A great failingin their part. They need to realize that Freud was right when he said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

I await your further attempts to frame a false premise dichotomy of politics on this.
 
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Visual says it all.

Love it.. is that a Guy Fawkes mask in the lower left?
 
So it should be accepted as truth? Even if it's philosophical premise is faulty?

I see. That makes total sense...

If you are a leftist I guess.

oooh, the l word.

is your premise then that fear is pro-american?
Fear is neither American or Anti-American. It is a universal emotional fact of the human condition. Fear is.

So is love
hate
desire
worry
jealousy
sympathy...

The premise is flawed because fear has no political affiliation. It may be used as an emotional tool for all sorts of things from politics to religion to relationships.

The reason I bring up the "L" word is because it seems to be a proponderance of leftists who cannot separate anything in life from the political. A great failingin their part. They need to realize that Freud was right when he said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

I await your further attempts to frame a false premise dichotomy of politics on this.

there is/was nothing political about the OP. no lib/con, no republican/democrat, no mitt/obama.

i'd say i'm surprised that you can't see that, but you're an obvious hack and i would be lying.

have a nice day.
 
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you say Blacks are out of control,well I have to believe you.Cause Philly's teens are really out of control beating up bus drivers,both Black and white drivers. Their parents now should see the futility of not laying fire to that ass when they were small.
 
Well thanks for passing your decree on me. I didn't realize my obvious inferiority till then, oh emperor of the USMB. :rolleyes:

Do I bother with trying to engage more after my dismissal from Del's presence or just ignore his quip? Ohh decisions decisions. :eusa_think:
 
Well thanks for passing your decree on me. I didn't realize my obvious inferiority till then, oh emperor of the USMB. :rolleyes:

Do I bother with trying to engage more after my dismissal from Del's presence or just ignore his quip? Ohh decisions decisions. :eusa_think:

it's ok, fitzie, the world needs ditchdiggers, too.

chin up :thup:
 
"You disagree with me, therefore you are afraid." Got it. Moronic gibberish. I am not surprised.

Pompous declarations of superiority that utterly miss the point of the OP? Similarly, I am not suprised.
What IS the point of the OP then? I obviously missed it unless it's sarcasm.

is reading comprehension really this hard for you people? I'm starting to despair about the future of this country.

If reading a simple sign and taking it at face value is so difficult for you, see post #131 above.
 
you say Blacks are out of control,well I have to believe you.Cause Philly's teens are really out of control beating up bus drivers,both Black and white drivers. Their parents now should see the futility of not laying fire to that ass when they were small.

Parents? What Parents?
 
Fear is neither American or Anti-American. It is a universal emotional fact of the human condition. Fear is.

So is love
hate
desire
worry
jealousy
sympathy...

The premise is flawed because fear has no political affiliation. It may be used as an emotional tool for all sorts of things from politics to religion to relationships.

The reason I bring up the "L" word is because it seems to be a proponderance of leftists who cannot separate anything in life from the political. A great failingin their part. They need to realize that Freud was right when he said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

I await your further attempts to frame a false premise dichotomy of politics on this.

Do you not see that both parties are framing their appeals on the basis of fear?

The Democratic party thrives by appealing to the fear that some constituency groups have of other Americans: black folks fear white racism. Gay folks fear Christian bigotry. Women fear losing the right to control their own bodies. The poor fear being victimized by the rich. The environmentalists fear corporations destroying the environment for profit. The pacifists fear that we will lose another 10-50k troops in a fruitless war. People with jobs fear losing their jobs.

The Republican party thrives by appealing to the fear of middle class voters that they will lose more of their income supporting dead wood, the fear of Christianist voters that gays/lesbians and atheists are destroying America and that their right to practice their faith is being undermined, the fear of white suburbanites that they will be victimized by black criminals, the fear of white men that they'll face racial or gender discrimination, the fear of rich people that they'll have to pay more taxes, and the fear of the corporations that the American taxpayers will stop subsidizing them with corporate welfare. Then they appeal to the fear that most Americans have, post-911, of another Islamic attack. So, here goes Romney, making the case for aggression against Iran, with no real game plan or exit strategy.

It's ALL fear. The threads about the Republican/Democrat war on women? Fear. The threads about black criminals? Fear. The threads about the Republicans undermining domestic violence protections? fear. The threads on either side about job loss and the tanking economy? Fear. The threads about Obama-care (both pro and con)? Fear. It's fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.

There is nothing positive, from either side. There are no creative solutions being offered. There are no bright ideas about how we're going to get out from under our staggering debt load. There are no courageous politicians willing to risk offending people by cutting budgetary items that need to be cut for our relative survival. There is nothing but fear. The only person I've seen who appears to rise above the fear-drum beating is Ron Paul. And, he doesn't have much support within Republican circles...he's too different an animal for the party to really support.

The Republican candidates who did have something positive to say, and rose above the muck have mostly dropped out (to my sorrow). John Huntsman, for instance.

And, as someone who doesn't drink either the red koolaid or the blue, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the politicans and political columnists that have convinced Americans that the enemy is ... other Americans.

It needs to stop.
 
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Fear is neither American or Anti-American. It is a universal emotional fact of the human condition. Fear is.

So is love
hate
desire
worry
jealousy
sympathy...

The premise is flawed because fear has no political affiliation. It may be used as an emotional tool for all sorts of things from politics to religion to relationships.

The reason I bring up the "L" word is because it seems to be a proponderance of leftists who cannot separate anything in life from the political. A great failingin their part. They need to realize that Freud was right when he said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

I await your further attempts to frame a false premise dichotomy of politics on this.

Do you not see that both parties are framing their appeals on the basis of fear?

The Democratic party thrives by appealing to the fear that some constituency groups have of other Americans: black folks fear white racism. Gay folks fear Christian bigotry. Women fear losing the right to control their own bodies. The poor fear being victimized by the rich. The environmentalists fear corporations destroying the environment for profit. The pacifists fear that we will lose another 10-50k troops in a fruitless war. People with jobs fear losing their jobs.

The Republican party thrives by appealing to the fear of middle class voters that they will lose more of their income supporting dead wood, the fear of Christianist voters that gays/lesbians and atheists are destroying America and that their right to practice their faith is being undermined, the fear of white suburbanites that they will be victimized by black criminals, the fear of white men that they'll face racial or gender discrimination, the fear of rich people that they'll have to pay more taxes, and the fear of the corporations that the American taxpayers will stop subsidizing them with corporate welfare. Then they appeal to the fear that most Americans have, post-911, of another Islamic attack. So, here goes Romney, making the case for aggression against Iran, with no real game plan or exit strategy.

It's ALL fear. The threads about the Republican/Democrat war on women? Fear. The threads about black criminals? Fear. The threads about the Republicans undermining domestic violence protections? fear. The threads on either side about job loss and the tanking economy? Fear. The threads about Obama-care (both pro and con)? Fear. It's fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.

There is nothing positive, from either side. There are no creative solutions being offered. There are no bright ideas about how we're going to get out from under our staggering debt load. There are no courageous politicians willing to risk offending people by cutting budgetary items that need to be cut for our relative survival. There is nothing but fear. The only person I've seen who appears to rise above the fear-drum beating is Ron Paul. And, he doesn't have much support within Republican circles...he's too different an animal for the party to really support.

The Republican candidates who did have something positive to say, and rose above the muck have mostly dropped out (to my sorrow). John Huntsman, for instance.

And, as someone who doesn't drink either the red koolaid or the blue, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the politicans and political columnists that have convinced Americans that the enemy is ... other Americans.

It needs to stop.
But to flatly state that Fear is "Anti-American" is ludicrous. Fear is a human condition. There hasn't been a political race in history that did not utilize fear on both or either side since the dawn of politics and government.

The premise is false. I'm sorry but FDR was wrong. There IS no right to a "Freedom From Fear". It does not exist anywhere. And fear cannot be stopped till all emotions are stopped which would require extinction of all life on this planet for even animals fear. Are we now going to assume animals are anti-american?

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There's some truth to some Democrats fear mongering, but fear mongering is not endemic to the Democratic Party Platform.

True, it isn't.

However it IS endemic to the Obama administration.

No Democrat (that I know of) has signed a pledge put forth by an unelected private citizens to never raise taxes or do anything which seems to sorta kinda be a tax raise. Republican Members of Congress are scared shitless of Grover Norquist.

They should. And Republicans should honor their pledge.

No Democrat that I know of has ever invented a word to create hate & fear of others (Islamo-Fascist) and not since LBJ has any Democrat raised the specter of the mushroom cloud for political advantage as did Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, et al in the run up to the invasion of Iraq.

Tea Bagger, Right Wing Extremist, Christian Jihad, Wingnut, Reich Wing; sorry, what were you braying?

Few Democrats raise the cry of fear that Fascism has come to America, how many raise the fear that President Obama is a Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Muslim and not an American? Is that not fear mongering?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's like you think you can make it so 2000-08 never happened, huh?

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You fucking scum pushed fear and hatred to points not seen since 1938 Germany, now you want to pretend you were the model of decorum?

/ SNIP


There is NO hypocrisy like Demopocrisy.
 
But to flatly state that Fear is "Anti-American" is ludicrous. Fear is a human condition. There hasn't been a political race in history that did not utilize fear on both or either side since the dawn of politics and government.

When we use fear as the basis for our policies in this country, we get off the path. True story. Our lack of initial response to Hitler, for instance....totally based upon fear.

And, we, as individuals, have got to recognize when politicians are appealing to our basest emotions as a means of controlling the behavior of entire populations, and stop allowing it.

The difference between a human and an animal is simple....animals generally can't overrule their instinctual flight or fight mechanism. Humans can. We can feel an emotion, but we can refuse to allow that emotion to control our behavior. We can will ourselves to stop letting the partisans play on our fears.

I'll share something personal...I have PTSD...it started when I was a small child being beaten by my mom on a regular basis, and worsened when I started doing a job where I was constantly dealing with teenagers killing other teenagers. PTSD is a bitch, because you basically relive the anxiety and panic you experienced in the initial setting where you obtained the condition in the first place....over and over and over again, anytime you experience something that triggers you. It can be a smell, a sound, a situation, or something you see. You can have a panic attack in your sleep, because you dream about something that triggers you. And, every time you get triggered, you feel that overwhelming feeling of fear to the point that you have a panic attack.

I've gone through two types of therapy for it, and I've learned that it is completely possible to control that fear response. It is entirely possible to reason your way out of an emotion, and stop allowing it to control your life. I do it every single day. So, I know that while we will always experience fear, as human beings, I also know that it is possible to control those fears, rather than allowing them to control us.

I guess I'm advocating a return to logical and rational thinking about our issues as a nation, versus pure blind emotionalism, primarily driven by fears about other Americans.

Fear, as a feeling...not always controllable.
Our response to that fear and how long we experience that fear? Totally controllable.
 
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oooh, the l word.

is your premise then that fear is pro-american?

Yeah, yeah...

We already read Alternet, Common Dreams and the other hate sites. Those fucking whites who oppose Obama are all consumed with fear of blacks, which is why they oppose Dear Leader, and they are unAmerican.

Thanks for the refresher, Herr Goebbels.
 

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