FDR Saved America ?

[Unkotare]

..... Its a shame when partisanship leads to the denigration of a great man. Thank you.

Does a "great man" throw innocent Americans into concentration camps, repeatedly violate his wedding vows, send a ship load of Jews to almost certain death at the hands of the Nazis, oversee a program of infecting black Americans with disease to study the effects, undermine the US Constitution and the system of checks and balances that maintains our system of government? Does a "great man" pursue unfettered power with an avarice not seen by any US President before or since?

No Japanese citizens attacked us during the war

Thanks FDR

Let's throw your ass in prison for a few years. I am sure you will not attack America while you are there.

Go study logic - even if just a little - before making more of an ass of yourself.

I am not a threat to society whose country had just attacked Pearl Harbor

Neither were the native-born US citizens thrown into the scumbag fdr’s concentration camps.

 

[rightwinger]

The ships were lined up bow to stern and at Hickum Field the Planes were lined up wing tip to wing tip. One would thing that even with 3 days notice this situation could have been retified. Curious too as how all the carries were out to sea.

Now, on the 70th anniversary of Japan's devastating bombardment of the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, evidence has emerged showing that President Franklin D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the attack that the Japanese empire was eyeing up Hawaii with a view to "open conflict."

The information, contained in a declassified memorandum from the Office of Naval Intelligence, adds to proof that Washington dismissed red flags signalling that mass bloodshed was looming and war was imminent.

"In anticipation of possible open conflict with this country, Japan is vigorously utilizing every available agency to secure military, naval and commercial information, paying particular attention to the West Coast, the Panama Canal and the Territory of Hawaii," stated the 26-page memo.
Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack

We received multiple warnings of potential attacks. There was no credible reports that an attack on Pearl Harbor was imminent.

The threat that was considered most credible was sabotage. That is why planes and ships were clustered

 

[Sunni Man]

The people overwhelmingly supported going to war

Only after Pearl Harbor

That plus Hitler declaring war on America 4 days later. ...

 

[Penelope]

..... Its a shame when partisanship leads to the denigration of a great man. Thank you.

Does a "great man" throw innocent Americans into concentration camps, repeatedly violate his wedding vows, send a ship load of Jews to almost certain death at the hands of the Nazis, oversee a program of infecting black Americans with disease to study the effects, undermine the US Constitution and the system of checks and balances that maintains our system of government? Does a "great man" pursue unfettered power with an avarice not seen by any US President before or since?

No Japanese citizens attacked us during the war

Thanks FDR

Let's throw your ass in prison for a few years. I am sure you will not attack America while you are there.

Go study logic - even if just a little - before making more of an ass of yourself.

I am not a threat to society whose country had just attacked Pearl Harbor

Neither were the native-born US citizens thrown into the scumbag fdr’s concentration camps.

Now , now don't blame it all on FDR. Military and congress were in agreement along with German and Italian camps.

Also the AG and then Gov.of CA, Earl Warren:

Earl Warren | Densho Encyclopedia

Proponent of Exclusion
After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Warren emerged as one of the leading western political figures advocating the mass removal of Japanese Americans from the West Coast states. As attorney general, Warren had demonstrated a preoccupation with preparedness and with civil defense; as a native Californian, he could not help but have absorbed some of the state's anti-Japanese attitudes, though he never showed such sentiments outwardly. He was a member of the American Legion and Native Sons of the Golden West, organizations that had often expressed anti-Japanese sentiments.

As was the case with other exclusion proponents, his advocacy became more extreme between December 1941 and February 1942. One of his first acts actually came in support of Japanese Americans, when he fought the California State Personnel Board's attempt to prevent Japanese Americans from taking the civil service exam and suspending all Japanese American civil service employees. But over time—and through frequent meetings with General John DeWitt, the military leader charged with the security of the West Coast—he moved towards a position advocating mass removal of all Japanese Americans, including American citizens.

 

[Desperado]

The ships were lined up bow to stern and at Hickum Field the Planes were lined up wing tip to wing tip. One would thing that even with 3 days notice this situation could have been retified. Curious too as how all the carries were out to sea.

Now, on the 70th anniversary of Japan's devastating bombardment of the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, evidence has emerged showing that President Franklin D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the attack that the Japanese empire was eyeing up Hawaii with a view to "open conflict."

The information, contained in a declassified memorandum from the Office of Naval Intelligence, adds to proof that Washington dismissed red flags signalling that mass bloodshed was looming and war was imminent.

"In anticipation of possible open conflict with this country, Japan is vigorously utilizing every available agency to secure military, naval and commercial information, paying particular attention to the West Coast, the Panama Canal and the Territory of Hawaii," stated the 26-page memo.
Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack

We received multiple warnings of potential attacks. There was no credible reports that an attack on Pearl Harbor was imminent.

The threat that was considered most credible was sabotage. That is why planes and ships were clustered

r/conspiracy - History is a lie. Pearl Harbor was not a surprise but they rewrote history to pretend that it was. Hilo Tribune Herald warned of Japanese strike a week before it happened.

 

[Anathema]

...Why does he rate such bile ?

The second worst POTUS in history, after Abraham Lincoln. Massive destruction of the US Constitution. Incalculable increase in Socialist menace in the USA through handouts and programs. Failure to contain USSR at end of WWII.

Should I go on?

 

[rightwinger]

Let’s not forget to thank FDR for saving the free world

Western Europe owes its existence to the policies of FDR

 

[rightwinger]

The ships were lined up bow to stern and at Hickum Field the Planes were lined up wing tip to wing tip. One would thing that even with 3 days notice this situation could have been retified. Curious too as how all the carries were out to sea.

Now, on the 70th anniversary of Japan's devastating bombardment of the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, evidence has emerged showing that President Franklin D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the attack that the Japanese empire was eyeing up Hawaii with a view to "open conflict."

The information, contained in a declassified memorandum from the Office of Naval Intelligence, adds to proof that Washington dismissed red flags signalling that mass bloodshed was looming and war was imminent.

"In anticipation of possible open conflict with this country, Japan is vigorously utilizing every available agency to secure military, naval and commercial information, paying particular attention to the West Coast, the Panama Canal and the Territory of Hawaii," stated the 26-page memo.
Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack

We received multiple warnings of potential attacks. There was no credible reports that an attack on Pearl Harbor was imminent.

The threat that was considered most credible was sabotage. That is why planes and ships were clustered

r/conspiracy - History is a lie. Pearl Harbor was not a surprise but they rewrote history to pretend that it was. Hilo Tribune Herald warned of Japanese strike a week before it happened.

OSC got to the Rose Bowl that year?

False attack news has been common in Hawaii. They were even warned of a North Korean missile attack a few months ago

 

[Penelope]

There are 4 threads on the firstpage of this group all attacking FDR.

Why is that ?

In school we were taught that he saved the US from the depression by using public money to stimulate the economy.

Why does he rate such bile ?

As you know, as you have done this rant before, it's because he extended the Great Depression by SEVEN YEARS.

The great depression was from extreme capitalism, and the greed at the top.The Great Depression [ushistory.org]

Yes apart from all those jumping to their death, we should of left the rest die from starvation and disease.

"extreme capitalism" ..... is that a thing ? who is "we"
in your sentence? the roman catholic church??? ---who
is "the rest" ?

OH----well ---fret not------under the skin-----Trump Is actually a REAL
new york democrat-------like FDR. The donkey is only temporarily
pixilated

Yes its capitalism under the GOP and we is the gov. admin and the rest are Americans.

Well now he is acting like an extreme Republican, but he was always bi, and he always hated rules and the government.

 

[Desperado]

The people overwhelmingly supported going to war

Only after Pearl Harbor

That plus Hitler declaring war on America 4 days later. ...

Because of The Tripartite Pact, also known as the Berlin Pact, was an agreement between Germany, Italy and Japan signed in Berlin on 27 September 1940
a mutual defense pact. Germany only declared war on the States because of this.
Which gave FDR exactly what he wanted, involvement in the war in europe

 

[Camp]

...Why does he rate such bile ?

The second worst POTUS in history, after Abraham Lincoln. Massive destruction of the US Constitution. Incalculable increase in Socialist menace in the USA through handouts and programs. Failure to contain USSR at end of WWII.

Should I go on?

Yes, go on and explain how FDR failed from his grave to contain the USSR ar the end world WWII.

And by the way, FDR did nor have handout programs. His New Deal programs required people to work for paychecks as they built infrastructure.

 

[Camp]

The people overwhelmingly supported going to war

Only after Pearl Harbor

That plus Hitler declaring war on America 4 days later. ...

Because of The Tripartite Pact, also known as the Berlin Pact, was an agreement between Germany, Italy and Japan signed in Berlin on 27 September 1940
a mutual defense pact. Germany only declared war on the States because of this.
Which gave FDR exactly what he wanted, involvement in the war in europe

German submarines were attacking American ships, including Navy ships and killing US Sailors. US flagged ships were being stopped, boarded and held for inspection in the open seas as close as the Carribean. War was coming with Germany one way or another.

 

[Anathema]

Yes, go on and explain how FDR failed from his grave to contain the USSR ar the end world WWII.

And by the way, FDR did nor have handout programs. His New Deal programs required people to work for paychecks as they built infrastructure.

FDR could see the Communist stylings of Stalin. For that reason alone they should not have been allowed the power and influence they were in decision making at the end of the war.

The New Deal was and still is the worst piece of legislation in American history, by far. It even dwarfs things like the 13th, 19th and 21st Amendments.

 

[Camp]

Yes, go on and explain how FDR failed from his grave to contain the USSR ar the end world WWII.

And by the way, FDR did nor have handout programs. His New Deal programs required people to work for paychecks as they built infrastructure.

FDR could see the Communist stylings of Stalin. For that reason alone they should not have been allowed the power and influence they were in decision making at the end of the war.

The New Deal was and still is the worst piece of legislation in American history, by far. It even dwarfs things like the 13th, 19th and 21st Amendments.

You did not explain your silly comment. All you did was offer rhetoric in an attempt to reinforce your nonsense of how a dead guy controlled something from his grave.

No one can accurately speculate how FDR would have handled the Soviets after WWII. Rember, he would have had the atomic bomb in his arsenal.

 

[Unkotare]

Does a "great man" throw innocent Americans into concentration camps, repeatedly violate his wedding vows, send a ship load of Jews to almost certain death at the hands of the Nazis, oversee a program of infecting black Americans with disease to study the effects, undermine the US Constitution and the system of checks and balances that maintains our system of government? Does a "great man" pursue unfettered power with an avarice not seen by any US President before or since?

No Japanese citizens attacked us during the war

Thanks FDR

Let's throw your ass in prison for a few years. I am sure you will not attack America while you are there.

Go study logic - even if just a little - before making more of an ass of yourself.

I am not a threat to society whose country had just attacked Pearl Harbor

Neither were the native-born US citizens thrown into the scumbag fdr’s concentration camps.

Now , now don't blame it all on FDR. .....

Whose signature is on EO 9066?

 

[Sunni Man]

Because of The Tripartite Pact, also known as the Berlin Pact, was an agreement between Germany, Italy and Japan signed in Berlin on 27 September 1940 a mutual defense pact. Germany only declared war on the States because of this. Which gave FDR exactly what he wanted, involvement in the war in europe

Hitler did not have to declare war on America because of the pacts. They were mutual "defense" pacts incase one of the signers was attacked, the other two countries would join in to help fight the invader.

And since Japan attacked America, the defense Pact didn't apply; and Germany was under no obligation to enter the war. ....

 

[Anathema]

.You did not explain your silly comment. All you did was offer rhetoric in an attempt to reinforce your nonsense of how a dead guy controlled something from his grave.

No one can accurately speculate how FDR would have handled the Soviets after WWII. Rember, he would have had the atomic bomb in his arsenal.

It should have been dealt with before the end f the war. Stalin should have been told he would not be granted the free range he was. FDRs reluctance to nuke Japan makes me feel like he wouldn’t have nuked Russia.

All of that is secondary in my mind to the domestic damage done by his policies.

 

[Camp]

.You did not explain your silly comment. All you did was offer rhetoric in an attempt to reinforce your nonsense of how a dead guy controlled something from his grave.

No one can accurately speculate how FDR would have handled the Soviets after WWII. Rember, he would have had the atomic bomb in his arsenal.

It should have been dealt with before the end f the war. Stalin should have been told he would not be granted the free range he was. FDRs reluctance to nuke Japan makes me feel like he wouldn’t have nuked Russia.

All of that is secondary in my mind to the domestic damage done by his policies.

FDR never had an operable nuke. First nuke test was not made until months after his death.

The USA gave free range to the Soviets because they were willing to sacrifice millions of Soviet soldiers lives killing millions of German soldiers and defeating entire German Armies on the Eastern Front so that US soldiers would not have to make those horrendous sacrifices on the Western Front.

Why have eighty years of Republican and Democrat Presidencies, Congresses and Supreme Courts supported and reinforced his policies?

 

[rightwinger]

Because of The Tripartite Pact, also known as the Berlin Pact, was an agreement between Germany, Italy and Japan signed in Berlin on 27 September 1940 a mutual defense pact. Germany only declared war on the States because of this. Which gave FDR exactly what he wanted, involvement in the war in europe

Hitler didn't have to declare war on America because of the pacts. They were mutual "defense" pacts incase one of the signers was attacked, the other two countries would join in to help fight the invader.

But since Japan attacked America, the defense Pact didn't apply, and Germany was not under any obligation to enter the war. ....

Still can’t imagine why Hitler declared war on America
We were the strongest economy on earth

 

[BuckToothMoron]

World War II saved the US from the Depression.

Demographic also played a large role in ending the depression. As for FDR- he instituted social security and it has become an under funded albatross and lured (unsophisticated) people into thinking the Government will take care of them in retirement.