FDR Admiration Society

[Billy_Kinetta]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

 

[Moonglow]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

 

[Moonglow]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

Nope. Strategy and tactics were devised by the military leadership and presented to FDR, who never served in the military.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He' admired by Stalin and Mao -- forever

 

[Moonglow]

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

Nope. Strategy and tactics were devised by the military leadership and presented to FDR, who never served in the military.

He was Assistant Secretary to the Navy during WWI...But then again Lincoln had no real experience either...

 

[Moonglow]

He' admired by Stalin and Mao -- forever

Sure that's why he funded the nationals...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

Nope. Strategy and tactics were devised by the military leadership and presented to FDR, who never served in the military.

He was Assistant Secretary to the Navy during WWI

Administrative position. No military rank or service.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He' admired by Stalin and Mao -- forever

Sure that's why he funded the nationals...

He helped Mao. He fucked over the Nationals in favor of Progressive Mao

 

[Moonglow]

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

Nope. Strategy and tactics were devised by the military leadership and presented to FDR, who never served in the military.

He was Assistant Secretary to the Navy during WWI

Administrative position. No military rank or service.

Yet he helped win the war and was unanimously elected by the population of the US, they evidently thought he was doing a good job....

 

[rightwinger]

One thing I find most interesting is the way modern-day Democrats give constitutional weight to FDR's "Four Freedoms". While instrumental at the time in expressing viable American sentiments, it seems like nothing more today than an attempt to staple a little socialism onto the document without going through the amendment process.

Government helping capitalists = Patriotism

Government helping the people = Socialism

You don't have the slightest clue as to what "gubermint" is all about..I am so glad that I am not as ignorant as you are.

Really?

please expand on your claim and we can discuss it

 

[Moonglow]

He' admired by Stalin and Mao -- forever

Sure that's why he funded the nationals...

He helped Mao. He fucked over the Nationals in favor of Progressive Mao

Sure Buddy..By not giving them support and not letting the communist forces be admitted to Stilwell's command....You really are no good without Polivinylchic to help you in your attacks.

 

[rightwinger]

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

Nope. Strategy and tactics were devised by the military leadership and presented to FDR, who never served in the military.

He was Assistant Secretary to the Navy during WWI

Administrative position. No military rank or service.

Far from it. FDR essentialy ran the Navy Department as the Sec of the Navy was a political figurehead

 

[Dale Smith]

Whenever the leftists attempt to declare the alleged "Greatness of FDR"? I have to fight back the feelings of wanting to go "postal"......the man was just that much of a POS. Had I been around in 1933, I would have tied cement blocks around his crippled legs and dumped him in the Potomac River with great gusto and joy.

Allow me to inform you what FDR did to the American people......when USA.INC declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy due to the debt incurred by the orchestrated crash of 1929, FDR pledged every person born after March 5th, 1933 as collateral on the debt of the international bankers that hijacked our monetary system via the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Up until 1933, there was no such thing as a "birth certificate" because there was no need for one. FDR pledged our future earnings, taxes and other "gubermint" fees as collateral. Your birth certificate was printed on bond paper from which they create a corporate fiction using your all caps name (which is your "strawman"). Look at your driver's license, social security card, the copy of your birth certificate... any bill that you receive, any notice from the court and you will see that your name is always in all caps...that is your corporate fiction and your birth certificate that was created enters you into contract and gives that bond value based on the commerce, taxes and other "gubermint" fees that you will pay over your lifetime. It matures and starts gaining value when you turn 18 and the banking oligarchs collect the balance of that bond with your death CERTIFICATE. FDR didn't have the balls to kick the banking oligarchs to the curb and tell them that we would do like Lincoln did and print our our currency backed by gold...oh no, FDR made everyone turn in their gold under the penalty of jail and fines in exchange for a fiat currency i.e "Federal Reserve NOTES". FDR made us all indentured debt slaves to the banking cabal...hope this sets your stupid ass straight. If people really knew what a sorry pos FDR was? They would spit on the ground when his initials are mentioned...I know that I do....

 

[Camp]

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

Oh please, do find a history book to read.

I will agree that he was by far more a CinC than our current pretender.

Grand strategy was determined by the C in C not a Pentagon until 1943..

Nope. Strategy and tactics were devised by the military leadership and presented to FDR, who never served in the military.

FDR served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy for seven years, including the entirety of WWI. His decisions to rebuild the air corp with newly developed craft and his guidance and insistence of developing new modern ships during the 1930's, including the Essex Class carrier were key factors in winning WWII. Furthermore, memoirs by leading military leaders, including General Marshall are full of examples of him overruling or adjusting their plans and ideas.

 

[Moonglow]

Whenever the leftists attempt to declare the alleged "Greatness of FDR"? I have to fight back the feelings of wanting to go "postal"......the man was just that much of a POS. Had I been around in 1933, I would have tied cement blocks around his crippled legs and dumped him in the Potomac River with great gusto and joy.

Allow me to inform you what FDR did to the American people......when USA.INC declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy due to the debt incurred by the orchestrated crash of 1929, FDR pledged every person born after March 5th, 1933 as collateral on the debt of the international bankers that hijacked our monetary system via the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Up until 1933, there was no such thing as a "birth certificate" because there was no need for one. FDR pledged our future earnings, taxes and other "gubermint" fees as collateral. Your birth certificate was printed on bond paper from which they create a corporate fiction using your all caps name (which is your "strawman"). Look at your driver's license, social security card, the copy of your birth certificate... any bill that you receive, any notice from the court and you will see that your name is always in all caps...that is your corporate fiction and your birth certificate that was created enters you into contract and gives that bond value based on the commerce, taxes and other "gubermint" fees that you will pay over your lifetime. It matures and starts gaining value when you turn 18 and the banking oligarchs collect the balance of that bond with your death CERTIFICATE. FDR didn't have the balls to kick the banking oligarchs to the curb and tell them that we would do like Lincoln did and print our our currency backed by gold...oh no, FDR made everyone turn in their gold under the penalty of jail and fines in exchange for a fiat currency i.e "Federal Reserve NOTES". FDR made us all indentured debt slaves to the banking cabal...hope this sets your stupid ass straight. If people really knew what a sorry pos FDR was? They would spit on the ground when his initials are mentioned...I know that I do....

Live debt free, by having nothing or be a good capitalist supporter and go in debt to support the rich...

 

[regent]

Why are conservatives so intent on tearing down FDR and not building up Lincoln?
With Lincoln the GOP have a truly great president and instead Republicans seem to ignore Lincoln preferring to make Reagan great, and nobody's buying Reagan.

 

[Moonglow]

Why are conservatives so intent on tearing down FDR and not building up Lincoln?
With Lincoln the GOP have a truly great president and instead Republicans seem to ignore Lincoln preferring to make Reagan great, and nobody's buying Reagan.

The Heritage Foundation and the extreme right winged evangelicals are playing character assassins...yes, for Reagan is their Gawd darn choice for number juan...

 

[Dale Smith]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

The code of the Japanese had been broken by January of 1941...almost a full year before Pearl Harbor that FDR allowed to happen...FACT. Japan had been goaded into attacking USA.INC but be that as it may, FDR KNEW that the Pearl Harbor attack was imminent and did nothing...FACT,

Sailors that were in sunken ships and subs that tapped out S.O.S messages in Morse code were left to die instead of being rescued because FDR needed a high body count in order to enter USA.INC into a costly war against the same people that the bankers, Wall Street and other monarchies that supported Nazism because they used it as a bulwark against the very communists that would have never gotten to power without their help.....holy shit but are you ever fucking' ignorant of our real hsitory.