FBI refusing to give congress material that alleges Lynch interfered in Clinton probe

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Correct, Trump is not running the DOJ. It's not "his" DOJ, since Barry's holdover are refusing to hand it over due to the phony Russian collusion "investigation".
it's FBI Director Ray, who Trump appointed and it is Rosenstein, who was also a Trump appointment as Deputy Director.... both Republicans, both put in their positions by the Trump administration, not by Obama.... and also, Mueller, again, not appointed by Obama.... :rolleyes:

try again!
Are you implying that by virtue of being appointed by Trump they have been somehow lobotomized into having no personal, partisan, subjective convictions of their own...?
 

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Correct, Trump is not running the DOJ. It's not "his" DOJ, since Barry's holdover are refusing to hand it over due to the phony Russian collusion "investigation".
it's FBI Director Ray, who Trump appointed and it is Rosenstein, who was also a Trump appointment as Deputy Director.... both Republicans, both put in their positions by the Trump administration, not by Obama.... and also, Mueller, again, not appointed by Obama.... :rolleyes:

try again!
Are you implying that by virtue of being appointed by Trump they have been somehow lobotomized into having no personal, partisan, subjective convictions of their own...?
what I am saying is that they are not liberals or democrats or Obama people, as claimed over and over and over again... this is not some ridiculous Obama plot... they are two people, simply trying to do their jobs, within the protocols, and ethical rules of their own agencies....

And Jordan, Gowdy, Nunes, etc....are simply putting on bloviated dog and pony show performances, and perhaps, obstructing justice, themselves....
 

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We're not talking about firing...we're talking about providing documents. Huge difference.

Firing someone after you told them to "drop it"--as he did with Comey when he obstructed justice is different than firing at will. At any rate, the FBI director works for the AG. The AG should be the one who does the firing in the department. Just like the AG should be producing documents. Since they won't, the President should get involved.
If he doesn't have to hand over the documents, why is he being threatened with impeachment?

He should have recused himself long ago. He's the prosecutor and possible witness in the same case.
I think you've got me confused with someone else.
I didn't mention you at all. Stay on topic.
lol...you funny.
Thanks! :) Here's another good one:

If he doesn't have to hand over the documents, why is he being threatened with impeachment?

He should have recused himself long ago. He's the prosecutor and possible witness in the same case.
Again, I have no idea why you're addressing this to me.

It seems to me that the Republican DOJ and the Republican Congress and the Republican President can't get on the same page; proving what shitty administrators they are.

You can ask me again if you want. You funny.
 

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What Candy is telling you, is that this is a ruse, a dog and pony show by the congress critters.... the justice dept has 110 workers sorting out and giving to congress what they subpoenaed....880,000 documents so far, of which the congress critters doing these subpoenas have not even read....

this is a Nunes trick, to try to make Rosenstein look bad, when he has had his workers comply, they add another thng that they want from him or cry about something else...

ALL because they KNOW Trump is guilty of something and the Trump congress critters are trying their hardest to to deflect and demean the investigators....

IF THEY REALLY WANTED this fake propaganda by the Russians that was discredited, then Trump could simply ASK FOR IT....

BUT it is more important for them to flail their arms and scream and accuse, and deflect....

TO MAKE FOOLS like you all, believe something smells funny in Denmark and there's some fake plot against Trump.... when the investigation, is really a legitimate, important, investigation....

They already KNOW that this so called plot between lynch and the DNC, was simply Russian propaganda....

but they are pretending it is something important or real....when it is not....and their accusations could end today, if Trump would get the JD to release it..... but they don't want it to end today...they need more time to brainwash you.... :rolleyes:

Just like #releasethememo-gate, and this last one, spy-gate, and before that unmasking-gate, and Trumptowerwiretapped-gate.... it's all fabricated and meant for you Trumpsters...not the sane and informed, who have followed Russia-gate!
 
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Because he does not have to, for one reason

For another, he is protecting Mueller so that the release of the investigation will occur about 15 Sep
"Does not have to" because you say so?

Congress has constitutional oversight over DOJ.

Therefore, he does have to. If he doesn't, Congress has power to impeach him.
They won't.
 
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When the OP gives good solid evidence to support the assertion, then I will consider it. And, no, Trump does not the DOJ. He is unhappy with Sessions, was unhappy with Wray, unhappy with Comey, unhappy with Rosenstein and Mueller, so, no, he is not running his own DOJ.
A true leader fixes issues. He hires "the best people"....lol
Sure, you lefties thought you have this one in the bag, but it seems you overplayed it again.

I wrote this on another thread, but it's relevant here. So read carefully, as many times it takes you to realize what is at stake for Democrats. Remember what Hillary said:If that fucking bastard Trump wins, we all hang from nooses"

Here is why, enjoy the read.

As we seen from the testimony of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, thigs are going to get somewhere, very soon.

To get a clear(er) picture, here are the timeline and few details.

Crazy Hillary has her own problems coming down the road and she can't protect Rod any longer.

From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impaneled. Governments from around the world had donated to the "Charity". Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those "Donations" to the Clinton Foundation were declared. You would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

Guess who took over this investigation in 2002? James Comey.
Who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? Lois Lerner.
Who ran the Tax Division inside the DOJ from 2001 to 2005? None other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Robert Mueller.

What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Let's fast forward to 2009. James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go to Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, with her own personal email server. The Uranium One "issue" comes to the attention of the Hillary. She decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no one other than, the Russians.You would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the American people got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no one other than Arkansas Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

At the same time, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Guess who was the FBI Director at this time? Robert Mueller.
Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland. Rod Rosenstein.

So what happened to the informant from inside the operation? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?

It's not that hard... ~145 million dollars in "donations" made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, Lois Lerner.

Fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 "investigations" the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her "public service" as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.

Guess who became FBI Director in 2013? Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer. No one other than James Comey. Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State.

Suddenly he is the FBI Director in charge of the "Clinton Email Investigation" after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner matter at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her. Nope, couldn’t find any crimes there.

Can you guess what happened next? In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy. They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury. Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.

FISA Abuse, political espionage, spies inside campaign, leaks, pick a crime, any crime, chances are this group and a few others did it. All the same players.

All compromised and conflicted. All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
Wow... a lot of words there. Someone should read them someday.

Trump appointed Rosenstein as deputy AG. Rosenstein appointed USMC Captain Mueller (who had served GOP presidents in the past).
FBI directors serve 10 year terms that are designed to overlap Presidential terms to avoid their being political appointments. That was until Trump got there. Now he seeks to politicize the Bureau.

Anyway...Trump runs the DOJ. That he won't cooperate with a Congress of his own Party demonstrates that the GOP sucks at governing.
Obama weaponized the the fbi and doj and you’re accusing trump of politicizing it. My my
 

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Actually it is Trump trying to use weaponize the Presidency against the standing foundations, the FBI and DOJ, of American justice.

He will be removed from office if he keeps it up.
 
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There was not a single entity in DC that was happy to see Trump win...not the DNC...the RNC....the house and senate....the FBI the IRS the NSA the CIA the EPA the State Dept...the Obama administration...or our corrupt news media...not one of those entity's jumped for joy when Trump won...but the people did...what does that tell you???
DC needs to be cleaned up and it will not clean its self....we need an outsider like Trump to do it...and that's why they hate him....

The FBI is serving one function right now...to protect the former fist lady Hillary and the former president Obama.....its sickening to watch....
".the FBI the IRS the NSA the CIA the EPA the State Dept."

All run by Trump....

Makes no sense.
Trump didn’t run #### in 2016
When a lot of thi corruption took place
 
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Gotta love the way Republicans govern.

The Republican DOJ is not cooperating with the Republican Congress.

Perhaps the Republican President should be asked about this???

Oh wait…we can’t allow that…can we?




Oh? You think that it is OK for the AG to Obstruct Justice for your side? Is that it? Not a crime so long as your side benefits? Hmmm?
:rofl:

only you trumploons seriously believe this horseshit.

as pointed out, these are all trump appointees. do you seriously expect anyone besides the mouthbreathers that are his base to believe that they're all in the bag for the democrats?

i guess he should have asked them if they were willing to lie to save his fat orange ass, huh?

obstruction? :lol:
Save his orange ### from what. Care to name the crime?
 

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Actually it is Trump trying to weaponize the Presidency against the standing foundations, the FBI and DOJ, of American justice.

He will be removed from office if he keeps it up.
For what?
Defending himself?
Of course, any criminal will defend himself with what he has: in his case, the Office of the President.
 
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Mueller will, Mueller will, tyrone.
 

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When the OP gives good solid evidence to support the assertion, then I will consider it. And, no, Trump does not the DOJ. He is unhappy with Sessions, was unhappy with Wray, unhappy with Comey, unhappy with Rosenstein and Mueller, so, no, he is not running his own DOJ.
A true leader fixes issues. He hires "the best people"....lol
Sure, you lefties thought you have this one in the bag, but it seems you overplayed it again.

I wrote this on another thread, but it's relevant here. So read carefully, as many times it takes you to realize what is at stake for Democrats. Remember what Hillary said:If that fucking bastard Trump wins, we all hang from nooses"

Here is why, enjoy the read.

As we seen from the testimony of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, thigs are going to get somewhere, very soon.

To get a clear(er) picture, here are the timeline and few details.

Crazy Hillary has her own problems coming down the road and she can't protect Rod any longer.

From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impaneled. Governments from around the world had donated to the "Charity". Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those "Donations" to the Clinton Foundation were declared. You would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

Guess who took over this investigation in 2002? James Comey.
Who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? Lois Lerner.
Who ran the Tax Division inside the DOJ from 2001 to 2005? None other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Robert Mueller.

What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Let's fast forward to 2009. James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go to Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, with her own personal email server. The Uranium One "issue" comes to the attention of the Hillary. She decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no one other than, the Russians.You would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the American people got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no one other than Arkansas Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

At the same time, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Guess who was the FBI Director at this time? Robert Mueller.
Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland. Rod Rosenstein.

So what happened to the informant from inside the operation? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?

It's not that hard... ~145 million dollars in "donations" made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, Lois Lerner.

Fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 "investigations" the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her "public service" as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.

Guess who became FBI Director in 2013? Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer. No one other than James Comey. Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State.

Suddenly he is the FBI Director in charge of the "Clinton Email Investigation" after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner matter at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her. Nope, couldn’t find any crimes there.

Can you guess what happened next? In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy. They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury. Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.

FISA Abuse, political espionage, spies inside campaign, leaks, pick a crime, any crime, chances are this group and a few others did it. All the same players.

All compromised and conflicted. All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
Wow... a lot of words there. Someone should read them someday.

Trump appointed Rosenstein as deputy AG. Rosenstein appointed USMC Captain Mueller (who had served GOP presidents in the past).
FBI directors serve 10 year terms that are designed to overlap Presidential terms to avoid their being political appointments. That was until Trump got there. Now he seeks to politicize the Bureau.

Anyway...Trump runs the DOJ. That he won't cooperate with a Congress of his own Party demonstrates that the GOP sucks at governing.
Obama weaponized the the fbi and doj and you’re accusing trump of politicizing it. My my
Unlikely.
 

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There was not a single entity in DC that was happy to see Trump win...not the DNC...the RNC....the house and senate....the FBI the IRS the NSA the CIA the EPA the State Dept...the Obama administration...or our corrupt news media...not one of those entity's jumped for joy when Trump won...but the people did...what does that tell you???
DC needs to be cleaned up and it will not clean its self....we need an outsider like Trump to do it...and that's why they hate him....

The FBI is serving one function right now...to protect the former fist lady Hillary and the former president Obama.....its sickening to watch....
".the FBI the IRS the NSA the CIA the EPA the State Dept."

All run by Trump....

Makes no sense.
Trump didn’t run #### in 2016
When a lot of thi corruption took place
You should read the rest of the post I was responding to.

Apparently, he doesn’t run ##### now either.
 

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Correct, Trump is not running the DOJ. It's not "his" DOJ, since Barry's holdover are refusing to hand it over due to the phony Russian collusion "investigation".
it's FBI Director Ray, who Trump appointed and it is Rosenstein, who was also a Trump appointment as Deputy Director.... both Republicans, both put in their positions by the Trump administration, not by Obama.... and also, Mueller, again, not appointed by Obama.... :rolleyes:

try again!
All of them spend life in government. And now their careers are hanging by the thread. Especially Rosenstein, who got nominated only because he was next in charge. He appointed Mueller (unconstitutionally) with broad assignment (also unconstitutional) with no oversight (unconstitutional), all while being person of interest (prosecutor and witness).

Being Republican means nothing, there are quite few Republicans that are "never-Trumpers". Once all comes out in the open, getting rid of them is going to be that much sweeter, for exact reason, that they're "Republicans".
 

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Correct, Trump is not running the DOJ. It's not "his" DOJ, since Barry's holdover are refusing to hand it over due to the phony Russian collusion "investigation".
it's FBI Director Ray, who Trump appointed and it is Rosenstein, who was also a Trump appointment as Deputy Director.... both Republicans, both put in their positions by the Trump administration, not by Obama.... and also, Mueller, again, not appointed by Obama.... :rolleyes:

try again!
Are you implying that by virtue of being appointed by Trump they have been somehow lobotomized into having no personal, partisan, subjective convictions of their own...?
what I am saying is that they are not liberals or democrats or Obama people, as claimed over and over and over again... this is not some ridiculous Obama plot... they are two people, simply trying to do their jobs, within the protocols, and ethical rules of their own agencies....

And Jordan, Gowdy, Nunes, etc....are simply putting on bloviated dog and pony show performances, and perhaps, obstructing justice, themselves....
True, they're not Democrats, but they surrounded themselves with Democrats (like Mueller did), and corrupted as much Democrats are, if not more. Their only purpose now is to destroy drag the phony investigation as long is possible, hopefully for them until after the midterm elections, and if that doesn't work to destroy any evidence that will lead to their exposure.
 

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If he doesn't have to hand over the documents, why is he being threatened with impeachment?

He should have recused himself long ago. He's the prosecutor and possible witness in the same case.
I think you've got me confused with someone else.
I didn't mention you at all. Stay on topic.
lol...you funny.
Thanks! :) Here's another good one:

If he doesn't have to hand over the documents, why is he being threatened with impeachment?

He should have recused himself long ago. He's the prosecutor and possible witness in the same case.
Again, I have no idea why you're addressing this to me.

It seems to me that the Republican DOJ and the Republican Congress and the Republican President can't get on the same page; proving what shitty administrators they are.

You can ask me again if you want. You funny.
Because you're the one who said the AG has to produce the documents, and not Rosenstein.

If this is true, why is he being threatened with impeachment.

Ignore the question a 3rd time and tell me I'm funny, corny. :)
 

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I think you've got me confused with someone else.
I didn't mention you at all. Stay on topic.
lol...you funny.
Thanks! :) Here's another good one:

If he doesn't have to hand over the documents, why is he being threatened with impeachment?

He should have recused himself long ago. He's the prosecutor and possible witness in the same case.
Again, I have no idea why you're addressing this to me.

It seems to me that the Republican DOJ and the Republican Congress and the Republican President can't get on the same page; proving what shitty administrators they are.

You can ask me again if you want. You funny.
Because you're the one who said the AG has to produce the documents, and not Rosenstein.

If this is true, why is he being threatened with impeachment.

Ignore the question a 3rd time and tell me I'm funny, corny. :)
You're wasting your time. Lefties never answer questions, but they always demand answers.
 

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