FBI investigates Virginia incident

[☭proletarian☭]

Chavez, Castro, Che are all Leftists. Hitler, Stalin and Mao are the Holy Trinity of Leftist control of Government.

Hitler was a Liberal, a Socialist.

Liberalism can best be described as Communism in it's very extreme form. It involves equal redistribution of wealth.

Clearly, you're not familiar with liberalism or the men who formed its principles. Liberalism is an ideological movement routed in individualism, religious conservatism, classism, and the belief that everyone should be left to fend for themselves.

Communism refers to a family of ideologies and systems grounded in the belief that you cannot protect the individual or improve a man's condition without also considering society as a collective and the socioeconomic conditions that lead to the man's position. Communism believes that people truly have rights and that. rather than a man being left to his own devices, we all hae a moral obligation to defend the lives and rights of others.

American Liberalism has no relation to the extreme form, as American Libertarianism has no relation to it's extreme form, ANARCHY.

Libertarianism and anarchy are two different ideologies, as well.

The FF were all liberals. Bourgeois Liberals, actually.

Hitler was anything but a communist. He was a right wing extremist, also known as a Fascist.

Fascism is economically left-of-center and could, in theory, coexist with any number of social views and policies from the far Right of Mousselini to the far left.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

ok. I've had a few minutes to scan the article. Assuming it's true - and i see no reason to disbelieve it - then it is an absolutely outrageous thing to do.

hahahazhahahahahahahah.

I'm glad you find it funny that someone disapproves of endangering the life of another. You're a sick individual, in my opinion.

You defend these people for 5.5 pages then try to condemn the acts on page 6 after you're called out on it?

 

[Yurt]

Some assholes posted the adresses of a rep and his family members yesterday and now someone has cut open the gas line at his broithers home.

Perriello

didn't you defend people publishing the names and addresses of those who voted for anti gay marriage initiatives?

i remember nearly every democrat or liberal supporting the publishing of these people...

Go get the post.

How many were spit on or had their property damaged?

How many Police died?

did you or did you not defend it? yes or no will do. further, it is fucking stupid to defend it simply because nothing happened. it is hypocritical and you should know better.

 

[Vast LWC]

Daily Kos: Teabagger Fail: Attempt to Harass Rep. Tom Perriello

Prove it wasn't a left wing kook plant .......

Ahh the old "one armed man" defense.

When your side does something wrong, imply that it was the other side trying to frame you.

You know who else uses that tactic? Radical Muslims who try to blame 9/11 on "the Jews".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I just heard they tried to cut the gas...

to his grill!!!

Probably some animal rights whacko

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Left wingers differ only in the fact that they believe the elected government should be in control instead.

There exist leftist ideologies that would do away with elected officials and instead propose direct democracy. Some such ideologies are rather extreme and could easily be called left wing, while it is possible to be a right-winger and still believe in elected officials- such as the appointment/election of the Pope by those given the power to do so, which it not so different from the rich white man electing the president when the FF were around.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

We are for corporate control of the populace? Seriously? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Corporate charters: Yea or nay?

 

[Truthmatters]

didn't you defend people publishing the names and addresses of those who voted for anti gay marriage initiatives?

i remember nearly every democrat or liberal supporting the publishing of these people...

Go get the post.

How many were spit on or had their property damaged?

How many Police died?

did you or did you not defend it? yes or no will do. further, it is fucking stupid to defend it simply because nothing happened. it is hypocritical and you should know better.

Go get the post that proves your claim

 

[☭proletarian☭]

You see there is nothing evil about corporations. They are just a mechanism through which people can gather together and work together to create wealth. There are other such mechanisms: Partnerships, LLCs, etc. None of them are bad.

The idea that it's somehow evil for people to work together and provide a living for themselves is absolutely insane.

Have you seen The Corporation?

It contrasts the reality with the rhetoric you idiots spew all the time.

 

[Yurt]

Go get the post.

How many were spit on or had their property damaged?

How many Police died?

did you or did you not defend it? yes or no will do. further, it is fucking stupid to defend it simply because nothing happened. it is hypocritical and you should know better.

Go get the post that proves your claim

do you know what a question is? i asked: didn't you defend that....with a question mark at the end....

didn't you defend people publishing the names and addresses of those who voted for anti gay marriage initiatives?

if you can't be honest and answer the question, i'll take that as a yes and that you can't be honest becuase you know it will prove your hypocrisy. thank you.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I didn't even read your post linking to the story. How arrogant that you assume I would.

Yes, ABS! How arrogant of you to think she'd bother with facts and news reports!

Fucking moron! You know she doesn't care about such things. How fucking stupid are you? What, next you'll expect her to consider evidence and arguments before to comments on political policies?! Fucking retard!!!!!!

 

[Vast LWC]

Clearly, you're not familiar with liberalism or the men who formed its principles. Liberalism is an ideological movement routed in individualism, religious conservatism, classism, and the belief that everyone should be left to fend for themselves.

Communism refers to a family of ideologies and systems grounded in the belief that you cannot protect the individual or improve a man's condition without also considering society as a collective and the socioeconomic conditions that lead to the man's position. Communism believes that people truly have rights and that. rather than a man being left to his own devices, we all hae a moral obligation to defend the lives and rights of others.

You speak of classic liberalism. The term has taken on a new meaning in the past 30 years or so. The term Liberalism, as defined by the current vernacular is basically the same as Progressivism.

Taken to it's extreme (which will never occur in the US) progressive school of thought is very similar to Communism.

Libertarianism and anarchy are two different ideologies, as well.

Again, I was referring to Libertarianism if taken to it's logical extreme conclusion. As Libertarians believe in minimal government above all else, the logical extreme of Libertarianism would be Anarchy.

The FF were all liberals. Bourgeois Liberals, actually.

Ahh, but I said Libertarians were Anarchists, not "all Anarchists are Libertarians".

Fascism is economically left-of-center and could, in theory, coexist with any number of social views and policies from the far Right of Mousselini to the far left.

OK, I can see that, I stand corrected.

But the period of Fascism the poster I was responding to was referring to, was the World War II period, characterized by right-wing fascism.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

That would be a report by the local NBC affiliate station... NBC, channel 29... thus "NBC29"

Not really sure how that's a "Far Left Communist Blog".

FOX or nothin, baby!

The MSM is all leftist propaganda controlled by the communists.

Beck did a special on it.

Only Beck tells us the truth.

Only Beck can save us. Open your eyes to the Communist deception. Obama is the Deciever the bible warns us about and HCR is the whore of Babylon. Receive Beck into your heart and your mind, wear his message proud and be like Beck in your mind and act as Beck's hand and this nation can be saved!

Ahh, wait, sarcasm. Sorry, I was being particularly dense.

I know, it was subtle and hard to discern from the real thing

I think they call it 'Poe's law'

 

[ABikerSailor]

It's more interesting to see how drug addiction has made you an idiot.

Foolish boy. I said 'assuming it's true' because I am inherently skeptical of the media's ability to report accurately. Shame that you're too fucking stupid to understand that. A simple study of the media and the way 'facts' change from report to report should be enough to provide evidence of that.

Carry on with the stupid insults though, moron, they make you look so normal. Not.

Yeah......assuming it's true when it's been all over the news as well as many other places. Fuck you cum dumpster, I posted it from a NEWS SITE.

You're just trying to spin it for a softer light so that your party doesn't look inherently stupid. Because you spin for a group like that, that is why I call you a GOP whore.

I didn't even read your post linking to the story. How arrogant that you assume I would.

I negged you for being an ass and calling me a "GOP whore". I am always going to neg you for that. Live with it. I made no comment in my neg to you.... but, for the enjoyment of the board.... this is what I got in response from you.

Neg rep returned you cock smoking cum dumpster. Hopefully one day you will see the light and pull your head outta your ass, but I'm guessing not because you're a shallow self centered twat who does nothing for the planet. Go away bitch.

Really, Biker, you need to get over yourself.... and your whiny OCD. You're a freak.

Nice.......you ignore facts, yet still try to tell others that you're the one who's right. Wanna know the reason that I posted it from a NEWS SITE? Because if it was from a blog site or something else, even though it happened, you fuckers would say that it's just a blog rumor.

Nice that your fucking ego has inflated yet again. Hopefully, your skull will eventually collapse from all the dead weight of your ego and render you a black hole.

And...........what is "arrogant' about wanting to post facts to help the discussion?

You really are one stupid bitch, and that just shows up here repeatedly.

 

[Modbert]

So a tea partier and or people associated with him are finally "taking matters into their own hands."

Why would anyone be surprised after months of talk?

They may be batshit crazy when they make such remarks, but batshit insane people do batshit insane things.

 

[FireFly]

Tom Perriello’s brother was trying to blow up his own house so he could claim against those evil insurance companies & blame The Tea Party. He figured it was a win win. Typical corrupt democrat.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

You speak of classic liberalism.

I try to make a point to use words based on what they actually mean instead of Republican Rhetoric and NC lies and spin.

The common-usage of 'liberal' as a mask for the modern-day DNC flies in the face of what the word even meant. The funny thing is that much of the DNC's platform is not only Leftist quite adamantly against Bourgeois Liberalism (Classical Liberalism as implemented and spun to protect the Bourgeois' right to exploit the poor and avoid any responsibility or moral obligation relating to the world's injustices).

Much of Leftist/Communo-Socialist (reformist, rather than evolutionary) thought is grounded in the same ideals as Liberalism, but realizes that one cannot protect the rights of men by leaving the weak to defend themselves against the strong.

The term has taken on a new meaning in the past 30 years or so. The term Liberalism, as defined by the current vernacular is basically the same as Progressivism.

'Progressivism' is really a rather useless term, as all changes are an attempt at progressing towards some end.

Taken to it's extreme (which will never occur in the US) progressive school of thought is very similar to Communism.

I disagree. Progressiveness in the US has always been very much about big interventionist (federal) government. This flies in the face of the communist end of letting government slowly die on the vine and returning to local governance. While they both might share some ideals and beliefs, along with Liberalism, methinks that the differences in how best they feel those ideals can be realized make them quite different in both their underlying worldviews and their implications when implemented.

The FF were all liberals. Bourgeois Liberals, actually.

Ahh, but I said Libertarians were Anarchists, not "all Anarchists are Libertarians".

Logically and grammatically, the two are the same statement. Did you mean to say that some libertarians are anarchists?

Fascism is economically left-of-center and could, in theory, coexist with any number of social views and policies from the far Right of Mousselini to the far left.

OK, I can see that, I stand corrected.

But the period of Fascism the poster I was responding to was referring to, was the World War II period, characterized by right-wing fascism.

[/QUOTE]

Agreed. We're just bickering over semantics at this point

 

[Terral]

Hi Truth:

Some assholes posted the addresses of a rep and his family members yesterday and now someone has cut open the gas line at his brothers home.

Perriello

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The Democrats are voting for the Obama Fascist Agenda 'and' they are making real Americans very very angry. Just wait until the Comprehensive Amnesty Bullony begins. The New American Revolution is right around the corner ...

GL,

Terral

 

[ABikerSailor]

I see you forgot your tinfoil hat again Terral.

Try to stay outta the kool aid as well please, you know how you conspiracy theory types get.

 

[Vast LWC]

I have to take off for the day, so cannot reply to your entire post at the moment, but I will return.

I will say one thing though:

Logically and grammatically, the two are the same statement. Did you mean to say that some libertarians are anarchists?

I was saying that extreme libertarians (a) are anarchists (b), but not all anarchists are libertarians. Thus a is a subset of b

Thus if you are b you are not necessarily a.

Have a good night!