FBI doubted probable cause for Mar-a-Lago raid but pushed forward amid pressure from Biden DOJ, emails reveal

[Nostra]

Biden intended to keep his box of personal documents from his white house office in his garage.

It’s always fun when the Murder Cult gas nothing left but mind reading.

 

[Nostra]

You could if the statute was theft and retention of a motor vehicle.

Since the larceny statute requires no "retention", as opposed to the classified document law, which does.
You example doesn't apply.

Using your new ‘logic” I could steal TOO SECRET INFORMATION, like Tater, and immediately give it to Putin and they couldn’t charge me cuz I didn’t “retain” them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you never gave it back when asked to return it, then YES.

We have a word for when someone takes something that isn't theirs and then refuses to return it, as required by law.

It's called theft.

 

[postman]

It’s always fun when the Murder Cult gas nothing left but mind reading.

Can you prove Biden packed that box. He was out of the country when most of the packing up of the white took place.

 

[postman]

Using your new ‘logic” I could steal TOO SECRET INFORMATION, like Tater, and immediately give it to Putin and they couldn’t charge me cuz I didn’t “retain” them.

You could, and you wouldn't be charged with possession and retention of classified material.

But you would be charged with High Treason.
Giving aid and comfort to our enemies, which carries the death penalty.

So give it a try.

 

[Robert W]

You gloss over this part

Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

That's why the Archivists "legal custody" is done by also taking "physical custody"

It's just like in a divorce or guardianship case, where a person is granted "legal" custody. It means whoever has the child, must turn them over to the one with "legal custody"

Why do Democrats excuse Biden for the worse case of the same thing?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why do Democrats excuse Biden for the worse case of the same thing?

Don't feed the sealions.

 

[Robert W]

Can you prove Biden packed that box. He was out of the country when most of the packing up of the white took place.

Trump did not pack what was taken to Mar A Lago. GS workers packed it.

 

[Robert W]

Don't feed the sealions.

Says you are not hungry.

 

[postman]

Why do Democrats excuse Biden for the worse case of the same thing?

How is it the worst case.
You think that something tucked away in storage that nobody looked at, or knew was there is worse than somebody who knew he had them. And fought, cheated and lied about having them, is less worse?

Good thing you don't work for the IRS, or you would go after the people who made math errors, and ignore the one's claiming their pets as dependents.

 

[postman]

Trump did not pack what was taken to Mar A Lago. GS workers packed it.

That's absolutely wrong.

Trump packed everything in the residence, which is what he had shipped to mar-a-lago.

Trump was actually insistent that people not open the boxes he was shipping to mar-a-lago.

 

[postman]

Trump did not pack what was taken to Mar A Lago. GS workers packed it.

Trump himself was reportedly involved in the packing, contrary to claims that the GSA packed them. The General Services Administration (GSA) only handled the logistics of shipping the pre-packed boxes to Florida, not the packing itself, according to emails and reports.

Why lie about it?

 

[postman]

Key Individuals & Groups Involved:

Trump's White House Staff:

Aides and staff were responsible for gathering and boxing up items from the President's desk and offices as the administration ended.

Walt Nauta:

A key aide and military valet, Nauta was involved in moving boxes at Trump's direction and faced charges related to obstructing the investigation.

Trump Himself:

Prosecutors allege Trump was personally involved in packing materials into boxes.

General Services Administration (GSA):

The GSA arranged for the transport of the boxes to Mar-a-Lago, but they were already packed by the transition team when GSA arrived.

 

[Robert W]

How is it the worst case.
You think that something tucked away in storage that nobody looked at, or knew was there is worse than somebody who knew he had them. And fought, cheated and lied about having them, is less worse?

Good thing you don't work for the IRS, or you would go after the people who made math errors, and ignore the one's claiming their pets as dependents.

Stop your conditioning when asking questions.
I can give fluent answers. First is the issue. Records of both, packed and stored on personal property. One was triggered by hate for Trump while Biden who had his stored in very unsafe places and for much longer. Actually, it was lawyers hired by Trump talking to the records people. Nobody knows for sure who saw records at Mar A Lago. What is clear to me is it is not the crime you object to, it is the person.

 

[Robert W]

Trump himself was reportedly involved in the packing, contrary to claims that the GSA packed them. The General Services Administration (GSA) only handled the logistics of shipping the pre-packed boxes to Florida, not the packing itself, according to emails and reports.

Why lie about it?

Key words in your claim. 1. reportedly. 2, sentence about the GSA. 3. Words according to e mails. See the problems?

 

[postman]

Stop your conditioning when asking questions.
I can give fluent answers. First is the issue. Records of both, packed and stored on personal property. One was triggered by hate for Trump while Biden who had his stored in very unsafe places and for much longer. Actually, it was lawyers hired by Trump talking to the records people. Nobody knows for sure who saw records at Mar A Lago. What is clear to me is it is not the crime you object to, it is the person.

The evidence points to Trump packed his own boxes that got shipped to Mar-a-Lago, so he had intimate knowledge of what was in those boxes.

There is no such proof that Biden packed the box that got sent to his home in Delaware, and left in the garage. Or the documents sent to the Biden center. Because Biden was out of the country starting four days from when they had to have everything packed up, It's likely his staff packed up much of Biden's stuff before his return for the transition

 

[postman]

Key words in your claim. 1. reportedly. 2, sentence about the GSA. 3. Words according to e mails. See the problems?

Well you should find a reportedly that refutes what reportedly happened.

But I doubt you can, because that's the most verified claim about who packed Trump's boxes.

 

[postman]

Actually, it was lawyers hired by Trump talking to the records people. Nobody knows for sure who saw records at Mar A Lago. What is clear to me is it is not the crime you object to, it is the person.

Trump keeps his lawyers on a short leash. They don't do things without his approval.

Why do I say that. Just look at all Trumps lawyers that are now in his administration, at DOJ, FBI, etc. that he keeps the same tight leash on.

A leopard doesn't change his spots. And you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

 

[AntonToo]

The state of mind isn't on trial,

Tell me you know nothing about law without telling me you know nothing about law.

Mens rea (Latin for "guilty mind") is the crucial mental state or criminal intent required for most crimes, meaning a person must have a culpable state of mind, not just commit a wrongful act (actus reus) to be convicted. It involves intent, knowledge, recklessness, or criminal negligence, determining the level of moral blameworthiness and often dictating the severity of the punishment, with higher intent leading to harsher penalties.

mens rea

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[AntonToo]

"state of mind"

By that you mean too old and senile to put on trial for his crimes.

NO I DON'T.

Read what I said again and try to understand it before replying.