Fauci's folly, how long are we going to stand for this?

[pknopp]

Trump stopped it you moron.

After it was unstopped under his administration and the damage had already been done.

 

[Lesh]

The lifting of the ban occurred in 2017

Remember who was President then?

Hint...not Obama OR Fauci

 

[Lesh]

Again.

There is zero evidence that GoF research created the virus BUT

It did help create the vaccine in record time

“We never created a supervirus.” Ralph Baric explains gain-of-function research.

The work has helped in the development of mRNA coronavirus vaccines and the first approved covid drug.

www.technologyreview.com

 

[kyzr]

It was NOT secret. I posted more than one link from the time the ban was overturn from different sources all readily available to anyone.

Your links are from 2017. There was a lot of maneuvering and deception going on until Trump finally killed it.
Tell me if you support or oppose Fauci's GOF research by the Chinese?

 

[pknopp]

Your links are from 2017. There was a lot of maneuvering and deception going on until Trump finally killed it.
Tell me if you support or oppose Fauci's GOF research by the Chinese?

I have not been evasive concerning what I think of Fauci. I believe he is compromised, I do not trust him and he should be fired.

There was NO deception here.

My links should be from a different year than when the ban was lifted?

 

[Lesh]

Your links are from 2017. There was a lot of maneuvering and deception going on until Trump finally killed it.
Tell me if you support or oppose Fauci's GOF research by the Chinese?

Yea...2017

That was the year that the TRUMP admin lifted the ban on GoF research ...ya fricking idiot

 

[kyzr]

Total lie. Also no evidence that GoF caused the pandemic.

Another lie. BO stopped GoF and Trump re-instituted it

Links have been provided (and ignored)

1. Total lie. There is no other link between bats and humans than GOF research. Look where the first cases happened, and the bats caves are 900 miles from the first infections, near the Wuhan Lab, duh.

The Wuhan Lab and the Gain-of-Function Disagreement - FactCheck.org

A disagreement between Republican Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci has put $600,000 of U.S. grant money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology back into the spotlight, while making "gain-of-function" research a household term -- all amid calls for more investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2.

www.factcheck.org

2. Trump ended it. Learn to read. If Fauci secretly funded it he should go to prison.

 

[Lesh]

1. Total lie. There is no other link between bats and humans than GOF research. Look where the first cases happened, and the bats caves are 900 miles from the first infections, near the Wuhan Lab, duh.

The Wuhan Lab and the Gain-of-Function Disagreement - FactCheck.org

A disagreement between Republican Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci has put $600,000 of U.S. grant money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology back into the spotlight, while making "gain-of-function" research a household term -- all amid calls for more investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2.

www.factcheck.org

2. Trump ended it. Learn to read. If Fauci secretly funded it he should go to prison.

When exactly did Trump stop it and Ohhh...from your link

Experts have suspected the SARS-CoV-2 virus similarly originated in bats. Researchers in China — including at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — have said the virus shares 96% of its genome with a bat virus collected by researchers in 2013 in Yunnan Province, China. (While that’s quite similar, Dr. Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa who studies coronaviruses and a pediatric infectious disease physician, told us it would be “impossible” to take such a virus and make the kind of changes required to turn it into SARS-CoV-2 in a lab. One would need a virus that’s 99.9% similar, and “in theory it might work.”)

An article published in Nature Medicine in March 2020 said that the virus likely originated through “natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer,” or “natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer.” The researchers, who analyzed genomic data, said SARS-CoV-2 “is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.” While they said an accidental laboratory release of the naturally occurring virus can’t be ruled out, they said they “do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”

 

[kyzr]

Yea...2017

That was the year that the TRUMP admin lifted the ban on GoF research ...ya fricking idiot

Trump didn't fund GOF research, Fauci moved money to hide that he was secretly funding GOF research.
My link proved that Trump killed that research.

Opinion | Fauci and U.S. Funding for the Wuhan Lab

Money is fungible and its provision to any adversary is wrong.

www.wsj.com

Richard Ebright, the laboratory director for the Waksman Institute of Microbiology at Rutgers University, confirmed that the NIH funds for Dr. Baric and Dr. Shi met the exact definition of gain-of-function research, saying, “The work is far outside the bounds of normal biomedical research.”
In 2017, Dr. Shi acknowledged in her research papers that Dr. Fauci and NIH did in fact give her grants for gain-of-function research.
This past June, emails obtained by the Freedom of Information Act show Dr. Fauci did know about it. In one particular exchange, Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance, which received grant funding for the Wuhan Institute of Virology, thanked Dr. Fauci for pushing back on the speculation that the coronavirus leaked from the lab and instead evolved naturally. Undoubtedly, Dr. Fauci knew about funding for gain-of-function research. No wonder the American people are hesitant to trust someone in a position of power like Dr. Fauci, who withheld prior knowledge to protect his position.

 

[Lesh]

Your own link says that GoF research was not the cause of the pandemic

Dumfuk

 

[Penelope]

In 2014 experts in the US convinced the Obama administration to put a moratorium on gain of function research in America. Dr. Anthony Fauci then moved all the dangerous research to China and the rest is deadly history. Now the world is forcing people to wear masks which do nothing to prevent the spread of the pathogen and is trying to force vaccines on citizens that do not prevent the virus. Vaccinated people all over the world are becoming infected because the virus was engineered as a biological weapon by the Chinese thanks to Fauci.

How long are people going to stand for this?


UPDATED: Dr. Fauci Likely Broke US Regulations and US Law When He Funded Wuhan Lab to Continue Coronavirus Projects That Were Banned in US in 2014 (thegatewaypundit.com)

No Dr. Fauci broke no laws.

 

[kyzr]

When exactly did Trump stop it and Ohhh...from your link

Experts have suspected the SARS-CoV-2 virus similarly originated in bats. Researchers in China — including at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — have said the virus shares 96% of its genome with a bat virus collected by researchers in 2013 in Yunnan Province, China. (While that’s quite similar, Dr. Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa who studies coronaviruses and a pediatric infectious disease physician, told us it would be “impossible” to take such a virus and make the kind of changes required to turn it into SARS-CoV-2 in a lab. One would need a virus that’s 99.9% similar, and “in theory it might work.”)

An article published in Nature Medicine in March 2020 said that the virus likely originated through “natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer,” or “natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer.” The researchers, who analyzed genomic data, said SARS-CoV-2 “is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.” While they said an accidental laboratory release of the naturally occurring virus can’t be ruled out, they said they “do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”

The bat caves are about 900 miles from the Wuhan Lab, but the first covid cases were near the Wuhan Lab.
The Wuhan Lab did GOF research for years, so tell me where covid came from? Hint: no animal link was found.

Why The U.S. Government Stopped Funding A Research Project On Bats And Coronaviruses

The project, run by the nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance, aimed to identify places to monitor, come up with strategies to prevent spillover of the virus and get a jump on creating vaccines and treatments.

www.npr.org

Nonetheless, at an April 17 news conference, President Trump said he had given instructions to check if any U.S. funding was slated for the Wuhan Institute, and if so, he said, it would immediately be terminated. Days later, on April 24, the National Institutes of Health, or NIH — which was providing the grant for the project — notified EcoHealth Alliance that the money was being canceled, as first reported by Politico.

 

[Lesh]

This whole "discussion" is a lot like claiming that the accused in a murder case is guilty because he once owned a gun...when the victim died from being stabbed

Experts have suspected the SARS-CoV-2 virus similarly originated in bats. Researchers in China — including at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — have said the virus shares 96% of its genome with a bat virus collected by researchers in 2013 in Yunnan Province, China. (While that’s quite similar, Dr. Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa who studies coronaviruses and a pediatric infectious disease physician, told us it would be “impossible” to take such a virus and make the kind of changes required to turn it into SARS-CoV-2 in a lab. One would need a virus that’s 99.9% similar, and “in theory it might work.”)

An article published in Nature Medicine in March 2020 said that the virus likely originated through “natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer,” or “natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer.” The researchers, who analyzed genomic data, said SARS-CoV-2 “is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.” While they said an accidental laboratory release of the naturally occurring virus can’t be ruled out, they said they “do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”

 

[kyzr]

After it was unstopped under his administration and the damage had already been done.

After Fauci moved money around secretly to hide what it was really for.
Fauci's emails are damning. Fauci isn't clear of wrongdoing yet.

The "DAMAGE" WAS DONE BY FAUCI, NOT TRUMP

 

[initforme]

Why was america not ready for something like this?

 

[kyzr]

This whole "discussion" is a lot like claiming that the accused in a murder case is guilty because he once owned a gun...when the victim died from being stabbed

OK, so where did Covid come from? You know for sure?

 

[pknopp]

After Fauci moved money around secretly

There was nothing secretly done.

 

[Lesh]

Nonetheless, at an April 17 news conference, President Trump said he had given instructions to check if any U.S. funding was slated for the Wuhan Institute, and if so, he said, it would immediately be terminated. Days later, on April 24, the National Institutes of Health, or NIH — which was providing the grant for the project — notified EcoHealth Alliance that the money was being canceled, as first reported by Politico.

Why The U.S. Government Stopped Funding A Research Project On Bats And Coronaviruses

The project, run by the nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance, aimed to identify places to monitor, come up with strategies to prevent spillover of the virus and get a jump on creating vaccines and treatments.

www.npr.org

April of 2020, moron

 

[Lesh]

OK, so where did Covid come from? You know for sure?

No and neither do you

So far there is no evidence it came from that lab or GoF research

 

[pknopp]

No and neither do you

So far there is no evidence it came from that lab or GoF research

Which leads me to believe it was. If they had any proof otherwise it would be big news. No one wants the fall out from the idea that this was man made. Fauci knew that it was a real possibility.