father and daughter should be allowed to marry

[roomy]

I must admit I have never been fucked up the arse nor been allowed to **** my wifes arsehole, am I normal?

 

[Anguille]

heh...RGS's problem is that he is illogical.

Here's how his reasoning goes.

"If gays can legally have sex then by golly it should be legal for me to have sex with my sister or my dog!"

He can't see there is a valid reason to not make incest legal (narrowing of the gene pool, high incidence of mental retardation). He can't see that there is a valid reason not to make bestiality legal (animals cannot consent).

There's no valid reason to make homosexuality illegal.

I don't think it's the government's business to regulate incest between consenting adults. Between an underage child and an adult it would fall under the category of sexual abuse.

Is the risk of mental retardation high? My understanding that incest does not lead to birth defects as frequently as people assume. If risk of birth defects is the reasoning for making incest illegal then sex between any two heterosexual carriers of genes that can put people at risk for genetic diseases, such as cystic fibrosis, would then have to be illegal too.

There's no valid reason to make incest legal was my point. I don't even think it needs to be illegal...but you know some people need the government to protect them from themselves. If it weren't illegal more than likely RGS wouldn't be able to control himself. But most people don't need that help.

He certainly can't seem to stop obsessing about it!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't think it's the government's business to regulate incest between consenting adults. Between an underage child and an adult it would fall under the category of sexual abuse.

Is the risk of mental retardation high? My understanding that incest does not lead to birth defects as frequently as people assume. If risk of birth defects is the reasoning for making incest illegal then sex between any two heterosexual carriers of genes that can put people at risk for genetic diseases, such as cystic fibrosis, would then have to be illegal too.

There's no valid reason to make incest legal was my point. I don't even think it needs to be illegal...but you know some people need the government to protect them from themselves. If it weren't illegal more than likely RGS wouldn't be able to control himself. But most people don't need that help.

He certainly can't seem to stop obsessing about it!

You dumb asses can try all you want to paint me anyway you want. Your insistence on TWO CONSENTING ADULTS is going to open a can of worms.

 

[Anguille]

There's no valid reason to make incest legal was my point. I don't even think it needs to be illegal...but you know some people need the government to protect them from themselves. If it weren't illegal more than likely RGS wouldn't be able to control himself. But most people don't need that help.

He certainly can't seem to stop obsessing about it!

You dumb asses can try all you want to paint me anyway you want. Your insistence on TWO CONSENTING ADULTS is going to open a can of worms.

one eyed worms?

 

[roomy]

There's no valid reason to make incest legal was my point. I don't even think it needs to be illegal...but you know some people need the government to protect them from themselves. If it weren't illegal more than likely RGS wouldn't be able to control himself. But most people don't need that help.

He certainly can't seem to stop obsessing about it!

You dumb asses can try all you want to paint me anyway you want. Your insistence on TWO CONSENTING ADULTS is going to open a can of worms.

Have at it.See you on Operah.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Actually RGS is correct because that can of worms have already been opened,


Gay marriage victory in Albany stirs valid fears that incest and polygamy could come next

Now the logic of you jackasses has been proven to be a slippery slope indeed.

 

[Anguille]

Actually RGS is correct because that can of worms have already been opened,


Gay marriage victory in Albany stirs valid fears that incest and polygamy could come next

Now the logic of you jackasses has been proven to be a slippery slope indeed.

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out. The worms play pinochle on your snout ...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Where is Kittenkodder and her buddies now?

A number of mainstream columnists, academics and the American Civil Liberties Union have voiced support for polygamy, using the same arguments that support gay marriage: that what loving, responsible, consenting adults do is their own business and none of the government's.

and

In Ohio, a former sheriff's deputy named Paul Lowe has been fighting a fierce legal battle to overturn the state's anti-incest law. Lowe, who pleaded no contest to having sex with his adult stepdaughter, spent 120 days in jail and was designated a sexual offender.

The sentence was upheld by Ohio's highest court, but Lowe is planning an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, according to Time magazine - and he's planning to make an argument based on Lawrence vs. Texas, a key gay-friendly legal precedent that struck down state anti-sodomy laws. In Lawrence, the high court ruled in 2003 that state laws banning gay sex in private were unconstitutional, citing "an emerging awareness that liberty gives substantial protection to adult persons in deciding how to conduct their private lives in matters pertaining to sex."

Gay marriage victory in Albany stirs valid fears that incest and polygamy could come next

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Actually RGS is correct because that can of worms have already been opened,


Gay marriage victory in Albany stirs valid fears that incest and polygamy could come next

Now the logic of you jackasses has been proven to be a slippery slope indeed.

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out. The worms play pinochle on your snout ...

Whats the matter, trolling because your logic has been proven to be faulty? The incest marriage fighters and polygamists want the same thing and they're using the logic that gays use.

 

[roomy]

Am I normal?

 

[Anguille]

Am I normal?

No matter what you have or have not done in the bedroom, you will never be entirely normal.

 

[Anguille]

Actually RGS is correct because that can of worms have already been opened,


Gay marriage victory in Albany stirs valid fears that incest and polygamy could come next

Now the logic of you jackasses has been proven to be a slippery slope indeed.

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out. The worms play pinochle on your snout ...

Whats the matter, trolling because your logic has been proven to be faulty? The incest marriage fighters and polygamists want the same thing and they're using the logic that gays use.

Are you calling me an opponent of incestuous marriage and polygamy? I am not. I've said before that I oppose ALL marriage. We should not have legal distinctions between single and married people, but seeing as eliminating civil marriage altogether is hardly going to happen, my second choice is to make it available to each and all.

 

[roomy]

I think I am normal.

 

[Anguille]

It's normal to feel that way.

 

[roomy]

I am normal.

 

[Anguille]

I thought you were Andy?

 

[Valerie]

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out. The worms play pinochle on your snout ...

Whats the matter, trolling because your logic has been proven to be faulty? The incest marriage fighters and polygamists want the same thing and they're using the logic that gays use.

Are you calling me an opponent of incestuous marriage and polygamy? I am not. I've said before that I oppose ALL marriage. We should not have legal distinctions between single and married people, but seeing as eliminating civil marriage altogether is hardly going to happen, my second choice is to make it available to each and all.

Right, why are we even asking our states to sanction our lives in the first place? And we actually pay them a fee to do it!

It is the activist "Defenders of Marriage" who have brought these issues to the political and legal forefront by writing exclusions into existing law with the DOMA, just because some gay couples wanted to have the legal benefits of marriage equality, they felt compelled to petition the state to stop them. In so doing, it is DOM who have created the opportunity for this slippery slope argument in the courts. I hadn't heard of anyone asking permission to marry their daughters except maybe those religious cults who brainwash and abuse women and children.

Charlie who are these incest marriage fighters you speak of? Do you actually know of men who have petitioned the state for a license to marry their daughters?

Black's Law Dictionary defines "license" as, "The permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission [...] would be illegal." The authority to license implies the power to prohibit. A license by definition "confers a privilege" to do something. By allowing the state to exercise control over marriage, it is implied that we do not have a right to marry; marriage is a privilege. Those born in the US receive a birth certificate, not a birth license.

Some groups believe that the requirement to obtain a marriage license is unnecessary or immoral. The Libertarian Party, for instance, believes that all marriages should be civil, not requiring sanction from the state.[4] Some Christian groups also argue that a marriage is a contract between two people and God, so that no authorization from the state is required; in some US states, the state is cited as a party in the marriage contract [5] which is seen by some as an infringement.[6]

... laws and restrictions were repealed, but the requirement to obtain a license has persisted, along with the associated fee. The institution of the marriage license often goes unquestioned by citizens today.

 

[roomy]

I cannot comprehend because I am normal/Andy.

I have two daughters, two sons and four Grandkids/five step Grandkids.

I would put some of you to death if I thought for one minute you meant some of the shit you post.

 

[Valerie]

I just wanted to bring up a quick point about the incest argument.

At least as far as parent/child relationships go, an argument might be made that the child cannot be considered able to give informed consent. The reason for this is that parents have such a strong influence and are such a controlling figure in a child's life.

Not asking anyone to agree with the argument, just bringing up something other than the inbreeding point.

You make a good point and Kitten said the same thing...There is a whole other potential predatory element to it.

 

[Nik]

There are many, many, many young girls in this country who are molested from a young age by their fathers. Fathers have a natural, and indeed legally proscribed, power relationship over their children. The child never consents to this relationship, in fact the child is born into it without a say at all.

Nice try analogizing it to gay marriage. But fail.