However,,you've been educated here that that is incorrect.....
Afraid not. Open your mind and learn something new
Socialism is socialism. There is nothing new in that. What is new is your spin, which you can't even coherently describe. Stalinism isn't socialism cus. The same reason you think fascism isn't socialism. It doesn't fit the Democrat agenda. You're saying nothing
Actually, claiming fascism is leftwing and socialist is a new spin on history by those trying and demonize the left and whitewash the right. The Republican Agenda.
Actually it isn't. Like I have said before, back in the 1930's it was well understood that fascism and Soviet style socialism were close to the same. The leading progressives of the US and Europe, realized it, and approved of the leadership of those countries. In fact, many of the leading lights absolutely loved the very idea of dictatorship. They have spent decades trying to obfuscate their support for the leaders that the world was forced to go war to destroy.
Below are a few quotes that show how the progressives understood there were no real differences between the fascists and socialist....
- H. G. Wells, one of the most influential progressives of the 20th century, said in 1932 that progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.” Regarding totalitarianism, he stated: “I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic.” Calling for a “‘Phoenix Rebirth’ of Liberalism” under the umbrella of “Liberal Fascism,” Wells said: “I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.”
- The poet Wallace Stevens pronounced himself “pro-Mussolini personally.”
- The eminent historian Charles Beard wrote of Mussolini’s efforts: “Beyond question, an amazing experiment is being made [in Italy], an experiment in reconciling individualism and socialism.”
- Muckraking journalists almost universally admired Mussolini. Lincoln Steffens, for one, said that Italian fascism made Western democracy, by comparison, look like a system run by “petty persons with petty purposes.” Mussolini, Steffens proclaimed reverently, had been “formed” by God “out of the rib of Italy.”
- McClure’s Magazine founder Samuel McClure, an important figure in the muckraking movement, described Italian fascism as “a great step forward and the first new ideal in government since the founding of the American Republic.”
- After having vistited Italy and interviewed Mussolini in 1926, the American humorist Will Rogers, who was informally dubbed “Ambassador-at-Large of the United States” by the National Press Club, said of the fascist dictator: “I’m pretty high on that bird.” “Dictator form of government is the greatest form of government,” Rogers wrote, “that is, if you have the right dictator.”
- Reporter Ida Tarbell was deeply impressed by Mussolini's attitudes regarding labor, affectionately dubbing him “a despot with a dimple.”
- NAACP co-founder W. E. B. DuBois saw National Socialism as a worthy model for economic organization. The establishment of the Nazi dictatorship in Germany, he wrote, had been “absolutely necessary to get the state in order.” In 1937 DuBois stated: “there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past.”
- FDR adviser Rexford Guy Tugwell said of Italian fascism: “It's the cleanest, neatest, most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious.”
- New Republic editor George Soule, who avidly supported FDR, noted approvingly that the Roosevelt administration was “trying out the economics of fascism.”
- Playwright George Bernard Shaw hailed Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini as the world’s great “progressive” leaders because they “did things,” unlike the leaders of those “putrefying corpses” called parliamentary democracies.
Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks
Hold on a second, what you're showing is not that "progressive understand there is no real differences between the fascists and socialist". All you're showing is quotes from various"progressives" and "liberals" complimenting aspects of fascism and that is deceptive.
Just for example the H.G. Wells quote. H.G. Wells pretty much rejected Facism:
As the bootsteps of both fascism and Communism began stamping down his influence, Wells wrote a 1924 essay, “The Spirit of Fascism: Is There Any Good in It at All?” The answer: a resounding no. Wells also rejected the British Union of Fascists. Well's ideology was also often contradictory in regards to his views fascism and socialism and his "Wellsian" ideology showed he was easily influenced by a number of new political factions in the 1930's.
None of the quotes really show that the speakers think socialism and fascism are the same, though it's hard to evaluate because they are stripped of context.
Also....Discover the Networks is a self-professed anti-left site. I don't know how much credibility to give it's claims.
