Farmers are begging for bailout

[Winco]

Trump will get a deal with China that will satisfy the soybean mega ag community... however the small farmers are doing great so don't ignore that... so are other big ag farmers... China will bend because they need soybeans...

TDS......^^^^. Wow.
Tell that to the Farmers.

 

[Winco]

You're a whining idiot. How's that

Grow the fck up petulant child

That is NOT evidence.......Child.

But sleep well, you ******* idiot.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That is NOT evidence.......Child.

But sleep well, you ******* idiot.

Sigh.. . gnite, Peewinlkle. Fckn dope

 

[Winco]

Sigh.. . gnite, Peewinlkle. Fckn dope

Drunk Post ........ did you think this was intelligent?
LOLLOLLLOLLLOL

 

[Rambunctious]

TDS......^^^^. Wow.
Tell that to the Farmers.

Brazil has stolen our soybean contracts with China... Brazil is the world's largest soybean producer and exporter...
China imports most of their soybeans from Brazil... so most U.S. soybean farmers have moved to other products like canola...
This is just another premature freak out by lib media....

 

[Rambunctious]

That is NOT evidence.......Child.

But sleep well, you ******* idiot.

Triggered much???

 

[candycorn]

You mean the US government paid farmers with tax dollars to grow crops

Yes. The system worked for about 6 decades.

that were then given to people that hate us.

Rarely....but that did happen in some cases. What it did was pave the way for relations between foreign governments and ours who, in turn, bought US heavy equipment, US information technology systems, and more US Exports. Thus employing tens of millions of US workers.

No. No No No No

You could have just said it once and appear less batshit crazy.

Batshit crazy still but less so.

 

[candycorn]

Brazil has stolen our soybean contracts with China...

Nope. China made a choice to start buying from a less hostile trading partner.

Brazil is the world's largest soybean producer and exporter...
China imports most of their soybeans from Brazil... so most U.S. soybean farmers have moved to other products like canola...
This is just another premature freak out by lib media....

Wow, could you imagine if any of that were true.

The stories farmers are telling is a direct result of the blob's administration making it very difficult to compete because of tariffs and other unforced errors.

 

[Winco]

Brazil has stolen our soybean contracts with China... Brazil is the world's largest soybean producer and exporter...
China imports most of their soybeans from Brazil... so most U.S. soybean farmers have moved to other products like canola...
This is just another premature freak out by lib media....

Wow.
Just WOW.

How about a LINK?

American Soybean Farmers are suffering>>>>>> true of NOT.
You ******* douche.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yes. The system worked for about 6 decades.

Rarely....but that did happen in some cases. What it did was pave the way for relations between foreign governments and ours who, in turn, bought US heavy equipment, US information technology systems, and more US Exports. Thus employing tens of millions of US workers.

You could have just said it once and appear less batshit crazy.

Batshit crazy still but less so.

USAID is gone, thank Trump. We aren't giving them anything more. Not money. Not food.

 

[initforme]

Give these farmers 2x the $ they were getting. Not that complicated.

 

[candycorn]

USAID is gone, thank Trump. We aren't giving them anything more. Not money. Not food.

And the money is now going to go to bailing out farmers for which we get nothing:

After they are bailed out (on top of the subsidy), the price will still be high (oranges cost almost a dollar each in some cases)
We don't get the good relations with other nations.
Farmers don't get to sell their products--which is what most of them want to do instead of begging for money

The blob has turned a win-win-win that has worked for six decades into lose-lose-lose.

You're just too brainwashed to see what is happening.

 

[Rambunctious]

Nope. China made a choice to start buying from a less hostile trading partner.

Wow, could you imagine if any of that were true.

The stories farmers are telling is a direct result of the blob's administration making it very difficult to compete because of tariffs and other unforced errors.

Obama/Biden gave away much of our soybean dominance like it was theirs to give away... hundreds of U.S. farmers got screwed... As far as today's situation... Trump has time to fix this before the harvest...

 

[candycorn]

Obama/Biden gave away much of our soybean dominance like it was theirs to give away...

Baseless and ridiculous assertion.

hundreds of U.S. farmers got screwed... As far as today's situation... Trump has time to fix this before the harvest...

Your blob's tariffs caused China to retaliate and to go looking elsewhere for soybeans.

 

[candycorn]

NPR's Planet Money shed some light on the upcoming soybean issue last month in their "indicator" segment.

Since most of you run from contrary information I'll fill you in. The Indicator is a 10 minute podcast where the two or three hosts pick a data point and tell a story on why they picked that data point.

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WONG: My indicator is 0, as in American soybean farmers have received 0 new orders from China for the upcoming year. And to put that into perspective, usually around this time, Chinese buyers have already put in orders for around 14% of their total purchases.



GUO: Oh, no.



WONG: "Oh, no" is right. And when I say year, I'm talking marketing year, which is the 12-month period that begins at harvest. And the marketing year for soybeans starts on September 1. It's right around the corner. And the American Soybean Association said recently that the export outlook is grim. And that's because the fallout from the 2018 trade war plus what's happening now with China putting retaliatory tariffs on US soybeans.



WOODS: So can the US sell to other countries?



WONG: We can, but China is the top buyer of American soybeans-- very hard to replace. It accounted for more than 50% of US soybean exports in the previous year. Your next biggest buyer is the European Union, but they're only around 10%.



GUO: So help us put this in perspective, right? Like, the last trade war in 2018, what did China do then?



WONG: China also cut way back during that period. So if you look at, let's say, 2018 to 2020, the value of American soybean exports to China was roughly cut in half. And the US Department of Agriculture said that trade war resulted in soybean farmers losing over $9 billion in annualized losses. And then exports did recover somewhat afterward. But there's another huge soybean producer that's been selling a lot to China.



WOODS: I think I can guess. It is our neighbor to the south, Brazil.



WONG: Correct. Brazil now outproduces the US in soybeans. And the American Soybean Association says that Brazilian and US soybeans are priced about the same during normal times. That is when there's no trade war. We are not in normal times right now. And now because of some retaliatory tariffs plus some other taxes, American soybeans are more expensive.



GUO: OK, but is there any chance that maybe the orders from China this year are just, you know, delayed, that they're still coming?



WONG: Yeah, maybe they just got distracted buying the booze instead of soybeans. No. I mean, soybean farmers have usually already gotten a bunch of Chinese orders by now. And the window for exporting soybeans to China runs from September through February, roughly. And then after that, it's prime time for Brazilian soybeans. So China buys from Brazil until the following September. So we're really only looking at a period of a few months when American soybean farmers really want to lock in their Chinese orders.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/29/nx-s1-5521330/ai-creeps-in-katseye-milkshakes-and-china-says-zaijian-to-us-soybeans

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Its no mystery why farmers are feeling the pinch.

 

[jknowgood]

You'd have to clarify your latest brain fart for me to follow.

USAID provided food for foreign countries. It bought the food from America's farmers. The blob fired all of the USAID workers and cancelled all of the contracts. So that is one of the reasons the farmers are hurting.

The tariffs are certainly crippling them as well. Brazil and other South American nations are more than happy to take our place on the soybean market as we retreat on every front.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-boosts-soybean-buys-argentina-uruguay-amid-us-trade-war-sources-say-2025-08-29/

The only people that are hurting are the Democrats that don't receive their money every month.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The only people that are hurting are the Democrats that don't receive their money every month.

So they will lie about whatever they can.

 

[jknowgood]

So they will lie about whatever they can.

Especially the corn.

 

[Hellokitty]

So we pay them to grow the crops and then let them rot in the field. Or are you and whom else, planning to work those fields?

Many farmers get grant money to house and feed illegals. I'd have no problem with giving farmers grant money to PAY US CITIZENS more.

 

[Hellokitty]

Of course not. We're all socialists now.

Maintaining food supply is national security.