Far left and neo nazis have a lot in common : UK labour MP says jews have divided

[novasteve]

loyalties and a jew shouldn't be the UK Ambassador to Israel.

Labour MP Paul Flynn accused of anti-Semitism over comments on Britain's first Jewish ambassador | Mail Online

 

[paulitician]

Europeans scapegoating Jews? What else is new? Europe has a very long history of doing this. And most of the hateful Anti-Semitism in Europe and the U.S. is coming from the Left these days. The Jews are always a convenient scapegoat for them. It's very sad.

 

[Avatar4321]

This is one of the reasons I support the Jewish people and Israel. Because sooner or later, politicians look for scapegoats and then start turning on them.

 

[William Joyce]

Yet whenever the term "scapegoat" is used for Jews, nobody ever bothers to actually check if Jews really are behind socially destructive policies and practices that hurt the rest of us.

British and American intelligence, along with Winston Churchill, were pretty explicit about communism being a Jewish movement from the get-go. Of course, it was... but who talks about that today? Do they teach that in school? Do we "scapegoat" Jews by blaming them for communism? Or is that completely accurate?

How about America's immigration disaster? It's fairly well-documented that Jews were a prime force behind it... are we "scapegoating" to mention that?

Financial chicanery, often Jewish. Scapegoating to say so?

Our fucked-up foreign policy is about 99.999 Jewish. Scapegoating?

Israel massacring innocent Arabs. Scapegoating?

And it's funny how Jews can so often be lauded (often by themselves) for all these POSITIVE things, but the inescapable logic is that they may also be responsible for NEGATIVE... never any discussion on that, just hysterics.

 

[Swagger]

This isn't the first time that Gould has exhibited an uncomfortably cosy relationship with his Israeli hosts. Apart from attanding meetings with the now-infamous Liam Fox and Adam Werritty, he acted without the authority of the British government by apologising to Tzipi Livni with regards to her parents' arrest by British authorities in Palestine. It's only natural to suspect alterior motives based on the evidence, regardless of his faith.

 

[paulitician]

Yet whenever the term "scapegoat" is used for Jews, nobody ever bothers to actually check if Jews really are behind socially destructive policies and practices that hurt the rest of us.

British and American intelligence, along with Winston Churchill, were pretty explicit about communism being a Jewish movement from the get-go. Of course, it was... but who talks about that today? Do they teach that in school? Do we "scapegoat" Jews by blaming them for communism? Or is that completely accurate?

How about America's immigration disaster? It's fairly well-documented that Jews were a prime force behind it... are we "scapegoating" to mention that?

Financial chicanery, often Jewish. Scapegoating to say so?

Our fucked-up foreign policy is about 99.999 Jewish. Scapegoating?

Israel massacring innocent Arabs. Scapegoating?

And it's funny how Jews can so often be lauded (often by themselves) for all these POSITIVE things, but the inescapable logic is that they may also be responsible for NEGATIVE... never any discussion on that, just hysterics.

Look,your warped fantasies of all Jews being wiped off the face off the earth just isn't gonna happen. If your boy Hitler couldn't do it,you sure aint gonna. So just chill out and accept the fact the Jews are here to stay. It is what it is.

 

[Avatar4321]

Yet whenever the term "scapegoat" is used for Jews, nobody ever bothers to actually check if Jews really are behind socially destructive policies and practices that hurt the rest of us.

British and American intelligence, along with Winston Churchill, were pretty explicit about communism being a Jewish movement from the get-go. Of course, it was... but who talks about that today? Do they teach that in school? Do we "scapegoat" Jews by blaming them for communism? Or is that completely accurate?

How about America's immigration disaster? It's fairly well-documented that Jews were a prime force behind it... are we "scapegoating" to mention that?

Financial chicanery, often Jewish. Scapegoating to say so?

Our fucked-up foreign policy is about 99.999 Jewish. Scapegoating?

Israel massacring innocent Arabs. Scapegoating?

And it's funny how Jews can so often be lauded (often by themselves) for all these POSITIVE things, but the inescapable logic is that they may also be responsible for NEGATIVE... never any discussion on that, just hysterics.

They aren't. The people scapegoating them are.

 

[Londoner]

Hitler hated the left because of their tolerance of marginal groups. His central claim was that the Liberalism of the Weimar period caused an over-assimilation of Jews into culture, entertainment, finance, and politics. He hated Liberal Tolerance in the same way the American Right does. The American Right, like Hitler, believes that Liberals destroy "Borders, Language, Culture" by permitting external groups easy entry into the country. The American Right, Like Hitler, believes that the multiculturalism of Liberalism destroys a country's language and tradition. Please consider what the Right thinks about the current rise of Spanish language at the institutional level. The American Right and Hitler do not believe that all nation's are equal. They both believe that the home country is special and should be protected. The Left does not think the home country is special - they think it is equal to all other countries. Hitler and the Right despise forced equality. Hitler did not believe Jews were equal to Christian Germans; the American Right does not believe that non-Americans are equal to Americans. Both Hitler and the American Right hate equality and tolerance. They both believe that you have to protect a country from external forces who use Liberal Tolerance to water down a country's core language, tradition, and identity.

Neo-Nazis hate the Left because the Left protects the very groups which neo-nazis hate. Remember: neo-nazis are closely tied to white supremacy. They overlap conceptually in many ways. The Left choose multiculturalism over white supremacy. The original poster needs to seek a higher education.

 

[Swagger]

Would it also be unfair to say that the MP in question was worried that through Britain's Jewish ambassador, Israel were quietly attampting to do what they've done in America and gain an irreparable foothold in British foreign policy?

 

[paulitician]

Hitler hated the left because of their tolerance of marginal groups. His central claim was that the Liberalism of the Weimar period caused an over-assimilation of Jews. He hated Liberal Tolerance in the same way the American Right does. The American Right, like Hitler, believes that Liberals destroy "Borders, Language, Culture". The American Right, Like Hitler, believes that the multiculturalism of Liberalism destroys every culture is is associated with. The American Right and Hitler have EXACTLY the same critique of Liberalism.

Yet most Liberals in Europe & the U.S. are now the most vocal Anti-Semites. So i guess it's time for you guys to join the Neo-Nazis. You guys have something in common. Good luck with that. Enjoy.

 

[paulitician]

Would it also be unfair to say that the MP in question was worried that through Britain's Jewish ambassador, Israel were quietly attampting to do what they've done in America and gain an irreparable foothold in British foreign policy?

Nah,he just hates Jews. Nothing new in Europe. It is what it is.

 

[Steelplate]

Yet whenever the term "scapegoat" is used for Jews, nobody ever bothers to actually check if Jews really are behind socially destructive policies and practices that hurt the rest of us.

British and American intelligence, along with Winston Churchill, were pretty explicit about communism being a Jewish movement from the get-go. Of course, it was... but who talks about that today? Do they teach that in school? Do we "scapegoat" Jews by blaming them for communism? Or is that completely accurate?

How about America's immigration disaster? It's fairly well-documented that Jews were a prime force behind it... are we "scapegoating" to mention that?

Financial chicanery, often Jewish. Scapegoating to say so?

Our fucked-up foreign policy is about 99.999 Jewish. Scapegoating?

Israel massacring innocent Arabs. Scapegoating?

And it's funny how Jews can so often be lauded (often by themselves) for all these POSITIVE things, but the inescapable logic is that they may also be responsible for NEGATIVE... never any discussion on that, just hysterics.

Look,your warped fantasies of all Jews being wiped off the face off the earth just isn't gonna happen. If your boy Hitler couldn't do it,you sure aint gonna. So just chill out and accept the fact the Jews are here to stay. It is what it is.

You know... I have no issues with people of jewish descent. I don't have a problem with anyone... What I do have a problem with is assholes.... IMO... the OP and Obiron Paulobi here fit that bill to a tee.

Are there liberal anti-semites? probably... are there conservative anti-semites? Probably. to sit there and make up fucked up rhetoric just goes to show you really don't care about the country... just want to play "gotcha" with people you disagree with.

Yes... I know... Libs do it too. But are we grown adults are are we third graders in a playground?

 

[Swagger]

Would it also be unfair to say that the MP in question was worried that through Britain's Jewish ambassador, Israel were quietly attampting to do what they've done in America and gain an irreparable foothold in British foreign policy?

Nah,he just hates Jews. Nothing new in Europe. It is what it is.

I disagree. And his initial detractor, Conservative MP Robert Halfon (who's Jewish), has retracted his accusations of anti-semitism. Oh, and anti-semitism isn't exclusive to Europe, Libocal... er, paulitician.

 

[Londoner]

Yet most Liberals in Europe & the U.S. are now the most vocal Anti-Semites. So i guess it's time for you guys to join the Neo-Nazis. You guys have something in common. Good luck with that. Enjoy.

I'd love to see the actual statistics on this. Granted, many people on the Left do not like Israel, but they are protesting State power and not the religion.

If what you are saying is true, than you're not talking about actual Liberals. You are talking about people who hijacked the Left. The same thing happened on the Right when the Libertarians took over many traditional Conservative parties. (FYI: I'm glad the Libertarians destroyed the old Right - and I'm glad Reagan was more of a Libertarian than Conservative. Indeed, I like Ron Paul far more than traditional Social Conservatives, who want to post a priest in every bedroom, with their big government hands up every womb. In fact, I would vote for Ron Paul because of his position on foreign policy and lobbying. Had Ron Paul been in office from 2000-2008, America would have been spared the Bush nightmare. Ron Paul would never have let Greenspan dump liquidity on the housing market. Ever. We never would have had the greatest housing bubble in history. Our nation would be healthy.)

Liberals believe in tolerance of outsiders. They believe in multiculturalism. Conceptually, they do not admit of a moral difference between groups and religions. The people who you are referring to, if they exist, are not liberals. They sound more like Rightwing nationalists who believe that one's home country and religion are superior. [Here, you might want to consider Bush's messianic nationalism. He sold us on America, the redeemer nation, saving the world from the evil Islamic barbarian hordes. This is a very common rightwing narrative. It is built around a morally superior culture saving the world from a barbaric, morally inferior culture]

The Right has a long history of intolerance. But they don't call it intolerance. They believe that some groups are naturally superior, and that a nation destroys itself when they suppress superior groups. What the Left sees as intolerance, the Right sees as rewarding and cultivating excellence. The Left believes that every culture, every people, and every religion is special in its own way - Jews, Muslims, women, blacks . . . everyone . . . equal.

 

[SwingVoter]

British and American intelligence, along with Winston Churchill, were pretty explicit about communism being a Jewish movement from the get-go.

Israel massacring innocent Arabs.

and the ultimate anti-communist, Ayn Rand, was also a Jew, so maybe they just do a good job of leading the fights over economic theory

also, those terrorist Arabs are far from innocent, if anything I wish the Jews and Israel wouldn't puss out so much and just take care of Arab and Muslim dictators in Syria and Iran