Fact is fact, Tea Partiers are extremists

[Cuyo]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

 

[AllieBaba]

You wish. Then they would all be Democrat!

 

[Xenophon]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

Political parties are the problem, they have been co-opted by outside interests and no longer serve the people who vote for them.

 

[Cuyo]

You wish. Then they would all be Democrat!

Nice hyperbole, but what exactly in the hell are you talking about?

 

[Cuyo]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

Political parties are the problem, they have been co-opted by outside interests and no longer serve the people who vote for them.

Xeno, do you even have a preference among a typical republican and a typical democratic candidate? I assume even though you agree the whole system is clusterfucked, that you'd prefer a typical republican. Correct me if I'm wrong-

So you guys find yourselves in an interesting predicament. You are a tea partier, not? If you guys field your own candidates, you will wind up insuring democratic victories. The movement is far too radical for many republicans, and of course wholly rejected by democrats.

Thoughts?

 

[Liability]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

What a ******* stupid and baseless partisan hack thing to say.



Fighting against the new Health Care Law [sic] (whatever that hideous omnibus bill of associated legislation is properly called) has NOTHING whatsoever to do with seeking to extinguish "measures that insure equality." Your moronic hyperbole is totally disconnected from reality, culo.

 

[AllieBaba]

Yeah, it's a fringe movement. That's why thousands are showing up at the rallies, and that's why Scott Brown is where he's at today.

 

[Liability]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

^ What a ******* stupid and baseless partisan hack thing to say.



Fighting against the new Health Care Law [sic] (whatever that hideous omnibus bill of associated legislation is properly called) has NOTHING whatsoever to do with seeking to extinguish "measures that insure equality." Your moronic hyperbole is totally disconnected from reality, culo.

 

[AllieBaba]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

What a ******* stupid and baseless partisan hack thing to say.



Fighting against the new Health Care Law [sic] (whatever that hideous omnibus bill of associated legislation is properly called) has NOTHING whatsoever to do with seeking to extinguish "measures that insure equality." Your moronic hyperbole is totally disconnected from reality, culo.

This is the leftard mantra...

"Republicans are evil.
The Tea Partiers are fringe lunatics."

They say it over and over and over again, hoping it will be true.
Suits me.

 

[Cuyo]

Yes, they do exist. In huge numbers.

Look at this site and see where the racism and sexism comes from. It's not from the right.

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

^ What a ******* stupid and baseless partisan hack thing to say.

^ What a completely typical response from a low information republican.

 

[Xenophon]

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

Political parties are the problem, they have been co-opted by outside interests and no longer serve the people who vote for them.

Xeno, do you even have a preference among a typical republican and a typical democratic candidate? I assume even though you agree the whole system is clusterfucked, that you'd prefer a typical republican. Correct me if I'm wrong-

So you guys find yourselves in an interesting predicament. You are a tea partier, not? If you guys field your own candidates, you will wind up insuring democratic victories. The movement is far too radical for many republicans, and of course wholly rejected by democrats.

Thoughts?

I loathe both parties, and always have.

However, because of the way the money flows and the control they have on the public, a third party is virtually impossible, I tried this route with support for Ross perot for 8 years. Right now, you just can't break the mindset.

The alternative is to try and force politicians through protests and voting to actually live up to what hey are supposed to be doing, IE holding them accountable, not cheering for a side.

The democrats have made it virtually impossible to trust them, so called 'blue dogs' did not stand on principle but voted party line in a stunning display of political hypocrisy in the healthcare vote.

That means for now we are forced to support GoP candidates, for that reason and another, which is breaking up the one party monoply in government which allows these excesses.

I have no doubt should the GoP have all three branches they would do as Dems are doing, so we have to walk a political landmine and get enough people to block insane and costly legislation that doesn't reform (like barrycare) while being careful not to invest TOO MUCH power in one party.

I understand the difficulty of the task, but I have been fighting this war longer then most tea party people, and I also have experience prostesting against a majority party (the last two wars) so I know all the tricks they use, from demonizing to labeling to 'plants' and what have you.

I understand the political machines are ruthless and intend to hold power.

We intend to take that power away, and give it back to the everyday American, not some Union, Corporation or paid stooge.

 

[boedicca]

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

^ What a ******* stupid and baseless partisan hack thing to say.

^ What a completely typical response from a low information republican.

^ You wouldn't know real information if it slapped you in the face.

 

[Liability]

I misspoke. Them sort of Republican politicians don't exist anymore. Modern republicans don't fight for equality, in fact they fight to extinguish existing measures that insure equality.

^ What a ******* stupid and baseless partisan hack thing to say.

^ What a completely typical response from a low information republican.

Alas, poor retarded culo, has nothing and it shows. Speaking of "low information."

If culo DID have any valid information about that hideous legislation that just got passed (and IF he were honest instead of just being a partisan hack working off of a sheet of meaningless talking points prepared by the dishonest leftists who ruin the Democrap Party), then culo would NEVER have spewed the abysmally IGNORANT contention that that law has ANYTHING to do with insuring equality.

This raises the question. Is culo more liar than stupid or more stupid than liar?

 

[Cuyo]

Alas, poor retarded culo, has nothing and it shows. Speaking of "low information."

If culo DID have any valid information about that hideous legislation that just got passed (and IF he were honest instead of just being a partisan hack working off of a sheet of meaningless talking points prepared by the dishonest leftists who ruin the Democrap Party), then culo would NEVER have spewed the abysmally IGNORANT contention that that law has ANYTHING to do with insuring equality.

This raises the question. Is culo more liar than stupid or more stupid than liar?

We're not talking about HC. However, if not at least trying to insure equality, than what is it? Another wing of our vast conspiracy to destroy Christmas?

The problem is this; Under the current system, if you make virtually nothing, you get free healthcare (Medicaid). If you make just a little too much, you get squat. Since the poverty line is, hell what is it like $11k?... If you make like 15, you get nothing. The bill provides subsidies to such people. Not Medicaid, but a subsidy to go purchase your own private health insurance - McCain suggested something similar during his campaign.

So when the guy making $15k gets sick or injured under the current system, who pays for that? You do (assuming you're a paying HC consumer), you just do so in an insanely expensive way.

So please, I'm feeling low information today. If not to try to fix some of the loopholes that are sending our current HC system on the path to bankruptcy, what is the evil motive behind it?

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

There are fringe elements within any group. However, to paint all people the same because of the actions of a few, is logical fallacy.

 

[boedicca]

How about reforming the system so that it doesn't pay to Not Work?

 

[Cuyo]

How about reforming the system so that it doesn't pay to Not Work?

I think that's one of the aspects being attempted here, Boe.

Notice I've always said "Attempts" or "Aims" or "Tries." Never said it would work, we'll have to find out together.

Don't you think providing subsidies to working people who don't make that much aims to do what you just said?

 

[Xenophon]

How about reforming the system so that it doesn't pay to Not Work?

I think that's one of the aspects being attempted here, Boe.

Notice I've always said "Attempts" or "Aims" or "Tries." Never said it would work, we'll have to find out together.

Don't you think providing subsidies to working people who don't make that much aims to do what you just said?

Do you not understand that the government is bankrupt, is running a massive deficiet and its because of these little giveaways?

 

[Cuyo]

How about reforming the system so that it doesn't pay to Not Work?

I think that's one of the aspects being attempted here, Boe.

Notice I've always said "Attempts" or "Aims" or "Tries." Never said it would work, we'll have to find out together.

Don't you think providing subsidies to working people who don't make that much aims to do what you just said?

Do you not understand that the government is bankrupt, is running a massive deficiet and its because of these little giveaways?

#1, it's paid for, unless you're among those calling CBO liars.

#2, just the annual interest on Bush's debt is more than the entire program's annual cost. Let alone the actual debt under the last administration, just the interest on that debt outweighs this program.

Plus, if it encourages people to work as I purport, more workers means more revenues @ any tax rate; Also less UI benefits and potentially, more growth. Certainly better job mobility as well.

 

[Liability]

Alas, poor retarded culo, has nothing and it shows. Speaking of "low information."

If culo DID have any valid information about that hideous legislation that just got passed (and IF he were honest instead of just being a partisan hack working off of a sheet of meaningless talking points prepared by the dishonest leftists who ruin the Democrap Party), then culo would NEVER have spewed the abysmally IGNORANT contention that that law has ANYTHING to do with insuring equality.

This raises the question. Is culo more liar than stupid or more stupid than liar?

We're not talking about HC.

We are now, since what YOU just said was that the Republicans stood in opposition to legislation which was designed to "insure equality." The MOST recent example of such legislation opposed by the GOP was the HEALTH CARE crap.

So make up you little pinhead mind. Was the GOP opposition to the health care legisaltion an effort to thwart a bill created to allegedly insure equality or wasn't it?

Before you "answer" in your usual double-speak style, though, you MIGHT wanna give some thought to the musing recently offered by the NY Slimes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/business/24leonhardt.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

However, if not at least trying to insure equality, than what is it? Another wing of our vast conspiracy to destroy Christmas?

It was designed to help move-forward the socialist goal of making America another weak-sister European style socialist "paradise." Its connection to advancing health care in America is nothing more and nothing less than an effort to make us all "equal" on the basis of class warfare on the economic front. It's Marxist in its inception and in its DNA. And Marxism pays lip service to "equality" too, but on the basis of creating a struggle between classes. Divide and conquer! YOur methodologies are all too familiar.

By the way, **** off already with your little strawman of "destroying Christmas." You assholes DO wish to make religion something which society frowns upon. That too is in the DNA of Marxism. But nobody was talking about that side-bar agenda of the modern American liberal. Try to stay focused, m'kay?