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400 Years OF White Government Handouts (Cont.)

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for white single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded.

The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. Child labor was eliminated by this act. All these were good things but… This is the trouble with so many things in the history of America. There is always a but. Being imperfect, we all have buts and not just the ones we sit on. Yet in some cases, the word but comes before critical facts that change how we see things. In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to make a compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, he decided that industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.

“I'm the beneficiary of the biggest affirmative action program in American history: A free education, a loan for a house. But black veterans didn't get it. We got made middle class by our government program.”

The Rev. Jim Wallis

Earlier I mentioned that our society has allowed low lives into our national discourse on race. These liars and disingenuous opinion makers have sold many in modern white America a race-baited tale of opportunity lost and failure of black Americans that when examined against the facts, fails every fact check known to humanity. In the history of this country, I as a layman ordinary average joe can point to 3 specific instances where whatever government was in power, whether a colonial or constitutional republic, provided direct economic stimulus or assistance primarily to whites. Headrights, The Homestead Acts, and the New Deal to include the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act.

On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill. This law provided benefits for veterans returning from the Second World War. Funds were paid for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time southern congressmen fought passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks. The G.I Bill was no different.

Democratic congressmen in the south fought against provisions of the GI Bill out of fear that returning black veterans might be able to pressure southern whites using public support for veterans to end the white dependence on cheap black labor and the white racial preferences better known as, “the southern “way of life.” Southern Democrats using the same tactics they used to make certain other policies in the New Deal helped as few black people as possible, wanted benefits to be administered by the states. Mississippi Congressman John Rankin was the ringleader in that regard. He and other Southern Democrats knew doing that would allow southern states to do what each state had been doing since the Civil Rights Cases. That would be states implementing policies full of loopholes and restrictions that would be enforced on blacks but not whites thereby ensuring the GI Bill would primarily benefit whites. Northern Republicans gave southern Democrats what they wanted.

The reality of the G.I. Bill is that black veterans were sabotaged at nearly every opportunity. Due to the racism in our society that overflowed into the military, blacks were disproportionately dishonorably discharged. Dishonorable discharge disqualified veterans from benefits, so that stopped some black veterans. Acts by white terrorists were committed against black veterans. Some black veterans survived the war, came home, tried to use the benefits they so rightfully earned, and ended up getting lynched. Due to segregation, black veterans could often not access the same classes or training as their white counterparts. When the VA wasn’t trying to send black veterans to vocational schools, it was sending the large majority of them to black colleges that had been underfunded since the 1890 Morrill Act and the Plessy decision.

Northern universities were slow to admit blacks. “In 1947, some 70,000 African American veterans were unable to obtain admission to crowded, under-resourced black colleges. The University of Pennsylvania—one of the least-discriminatory schools at the time—enrolled only 40 African American students in its 1946 student body of 9,000.” Southern universities? Forget about it. “After World War II, blacks wanting to attend college in the South were restricted to about 100 public and private schools, few of which offered education beyond the baccalaureate and more than a quarter of which were junior colleges, with the highest degree below the B.A.”

I am going to present a policy here that many will not believe has benefitted whites. However, the statistics regarding white wealth between the time the policy was implemented until now shows that this program has benefitted white families more than anyone else by increasing family income due to the creation of more double wage earning families. That policy is Affirmative Action. Yes, that’s right, Affirmative Action has helped whites more than anyone else.

“Hoping to create in white men and women a shared sense of victimization at the hands of people of color, conservatives have made sure to ignore whatever gains have come to women through affirmative action and have sought to “racialize” the debate and its attendant imagery.”

Tim Wise

One might say; “How do you figure, Affirmative Action was made for blacks! Wrong! Affirmative Action was created to combat discrimination and blacks have not been the only ones discriminated against. So here we introduce another protected group, women. That includes white women.

On June 17, 2013 Sally Kohn wrote an article in Time titled, “Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.” Kohn provides this historical backdrop for the implementation including the reasons why President Johnson added women: “Originally, women weren’t even included in legislation attempting to level the playing field in education and employment. The first affirmative-action measure in America was an executive order signed by President Kennedy in 1961 requiring that federal contractors “take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin.” In 1967, President Johnson amended this, and a subsequent measure included sex, recognizing that women also faced many discriminatory barriers and hurdles to equal opportunity.” Kohn continues by stating that while Affirmative Action has helped people of color, it has disproportionately benefitted white women.

“While people of color, individually and as groups, have been helped by affirmative action in the subsequent years, data and studies suggest women — white women in particular — have benefited disproportionately. According to one study, in 1995, 6 million women, the majority of whom were white, had jobs they wouldn’t have otherwise held but for affirmative action.”

Sally Kohn

The National Womens Law Center did a study on Affirmatives Action and found that: “Women of color have lagged particularly far behind in both employment and education. For example, in 1998, the median weekly salary for Black women was $400 compared to $468 for white women and $615 for white men. Hispanic women earned a median weekly income of only $337. Even in sectors where women have made inroads into management, minority women continue to be underrepresented. In the banking industry, only 2.6% of executive, managerial and administrative jobs were held by Black women, and 5% by Hispanic women, compared to 37.6% by white women. In the hospital industry, Black and Hispanic women each held 4.6% of these jobs, while white women held 50.2%. At the top, women of color represented only 11.2% of all corporate officers in Fortune 500 companies. Women of color also earn fewer college degrees than white women. In 1997, white women made up 39% of college undergraduates and 42% of graduate students; minority women were only 16% of undergraduates and 10% of graduate students.”

Tim Wise had a paper published in the National Women’s Studies Association Journal in the fall of 1998 titled, “Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action”.
His paper was about the reluctance of some white women to advocate for Affirmative Action despites the gains white women had achieved from the policy over the 30 years at that time, due to the policy.

“Thanks in large measure to affirmative action and civil rights protections that opened up previously restricted opportunities to women of all colors, from 1972-1993:

— The percentage of women architects increased from 3% to nearly 19% of the total;

— The percentage of women doctors more than doubled from 10% to 22% of all doctors;

— The percentage of women lawyers grew from 4% to 23% of the national total;

— The percentage of female engineers went from less than 1% to nearly 9%;

— The percentage of female chemists grew from 10% to 30% of all chemists; and,

— The percentage of female college faculty went from 28% to 42% of all faculty.

The gender benefits of affirmative action have extended beyond economically privileged women, expanding opportunity for working-class women as well: The 1985 Perkins Act, which requires states to set aside 10.5% of federal vocational-education funds for girls and women — such as displaced homemakers and single-mothers — has helped these women find new jobs to support themselves and their families. In Florida, thanks to this program, more than 70% of women receiving voc-ed funds found new jobs, at pay levels averaging twice their prior salaries (National Coalition for Women and Girls in Education 1995).”


These increases in white women graduating college then entering into higher paying fields formerly dominated by men increased the earnings of white women. Since white men were already disproportionately represented in high paying positions, as white women married those men, their earnings combined with his further increased white wealth. White women have been the number one beneficiary of Affirmative Action. At the same time, white women have been the fiercest in opposition to the policy. This is an example of the denial a portion of the white population has displayed pertaining to matters of race and overall American equal rights.

The postings in this forum show just how oblivious some whites in America are to the reality of how things have been done. Our system has a problem that begins with an attitude not just of racism, but that of white entitlement. It is this entitlement mentality that has a portion of the white community who have almost everything they have today due to legislation at every level of government, lecturing blacks as well as others of color about a phantom ethic of rugged individualism. The choice of racial division by whites is a decision whites from a particular subgroup do not want to take responsibility for. The consequences of that decision are what we live with today. Instead of facing this truth, there are whites who will use any means they can to silence those who speak to the reality of the American lie.

So this began with an idiot asking these questions:

What is almost NEVER asked is: what should blacks be doing for themselves? And, what changes can blacks make in their own culture to help young blacks have a better chance to succeed?

My answer is also a question; "Just what exactly have whites done for themselves?"
 
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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.
No a black family with a mother AND father would clear it all up
 
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"Almost every post on this subject ends up with the same worthless, tired, approach: what do old mean white guys have to do to fix things for the weak-minded, loser blacks. I know, let's shovel more welfare at them. And let's put more of them in good jobs, for which they're not qualified.

What is almost NEVER asked is: what should blacks be doing for themselves? And, what changes can blacks make in their own culture to help young blacks have a better chance to succeed? YES, blacks are NOT perfect, and they are not helpless."


First, Ghost Rider is completely wrong.

And of course IM2 will not say how or why I’m wrong and if asked he will refuse to answer. On top of that, if I ask how I’m wrong he won’t see it anyway because he has me on ignore and refuses to debate me face to face.

Here’s a tidbit you need to be aware of about IM2 if there’s any doubt in your mind that he’s full of shit (although you’re probably already convinced anyway): In a discussion a couple of years ago about black racism, I related a personal story of my experience with black racism and what was IM2’s kneejerk response? He accused me of making it up. In other words, he called me a liar with no basis or justification whatsoever.
 

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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
its a known fact that children that grow up in a home with a mother and father present have a higher graduation rate , lower chance of being a felon , and have a better standard of living on average . in other words the nuclear family .
 

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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.

But how do you end racism?

I'm afraid the only way this can be achieved is on the long term. The more white people have (good) relations with blacks in everyday life, the more community and the less alienness there is between both sides, the more racism will vanish ... or do you see a quicker way to achieve that?

So my guess is, the more white people learn to know blacks in everyday life, not just as low workers, but as doctors, policemen, businessowners and so on, as people not any less influencial than whites, the quicker they'll lose their prejudices.
We've both lived in this country for 400 years, it's time whites stopped teaching their children some of the shit they teach them and white racist adults need to unlearn some of the garbage they believe.

Yes, I agree... but how do you bring this about?

In the end, I guess the only thing that will truly convince many people, is when they hear a racist prejudice and think "no, that's not what my black buddy/neighbor/boss is like" and thus discard it.
Thats been going on for now 245 years. Today whites want to lie to themselves or get indignant when they are called to the carpaet on their racism. Read these posts and you see that 99.9 percent of these guys in here employ racial gaslighting and plausible deniability to deny or excuse their racism.

In 2021.

It's not my job to end white racism. It is my job to make certain blacks do not allow themselves to become examples these racists use to claim how their racist beliefs are the correct ones. Whites know what it will take to end this quickly but it easier to string things along when you are not the ones affected.
i know you will not respond ....but you have yet to address the biggest problem in the black community ....and that problem is fatherless single parent homes ! racist like you have no real interest in improving the black community if you did you would be speaking about the need for a black father in the home ! instead you spout grievances about racism ! racism is your crutch .you need it . its much easier to blame someone else for failures self inflicted ! the biggest cause of death for young black men is violence committed by other young black men ! thats a fact ! the only thing that will help the inner cities and the black community is a focus on the lack of fathers in the home .
 
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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.

But how do you end racism?

I'm afraid the only way this can be achieved is on the long term. The more white people have (good) relations with blacks in everyday life, the more community and the less alienness there is between both sides, the more racism will vanish ... or do you see a quicker way to achieve that?

So my guess is, the more white people learn to know blacks in everyday life, not just as low workers, but as doctors, policemen, businessowners and so on, as people not any less influencial than whites, the quicker they'll lose their prejudices.
We've both lived in this country for 400 years, it's time whites stopped teaching their children some of the shit they teach them and white racist adults need to unlearn some of the garbage they believe.

Yes, I agree... but how do you bring this about?

In the end, I guess the only thing that will truly convince many people, is when they hear a racist prejudice and think "no, that's not what my black buddy/neighbor/boss is like" and thus discard it.
Thats been going on for now 245 years. Today whites want to lie to themselves or get indignant when they are called to the carpaet on their racism. Read these posts and you see that 99.9 percent of these guys in here employ racial gaslighting and plausible deniability to deny or excuse their racism.

In 2021.

It's not my job to end white racism. It is my job to make certain blacks do not allow themselves to become examples these racists use to claim how their racist beliefs are the correct ones. Whites know what it will take to end this quickly but it easier to string things along when you are not the ones affected.
100% of your posts are racists.
 

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I'm not sure it's scietifically accurate to say this stress is caused by white racism, as there are many other potential stressors, but it's not hard to imagine white racism at least contributes.

But ... I'm an old class reductionist. My first guess would be to assume that much of the extra stress is due to bad social living conditions. Blacks still have much lower income, much worse jobs, much higer unemployment rate and live in quarters with much higher crime rates, by average, than whites.

There may be many reasons for that, but I don't think it's because blacks are somehow inherently worse than other groups. One reason certainly is structural racism.

At any rate, I'd say to solve the problem, ways must be found to raise blacks to the same social status as other groups. Maybe that's the key to everything else.
Your last paragraph is what most Black Americans are saying needs to be done.

As far as I can see, it's just damn difficult to find out from which side to address the problem, or which measures to take.

Racism increases social inequality, social inequality in turn increases racist prejudices. What should the focus be on?

I might be wrong, but my feeling is just addressing racism won't be enough. People are just prejudiced in general, you can get certain prejudices out of people, but you cannot change that most people are prejudiced. People will always be hostile towards groups of people they're not familiar with. So maybe by raising the social status of disadvantaged groups, established groups will consider them less alien on the long run.
just ask Asians . blacks are violently attacking them constantly !
 

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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.

But how do you end racism?

I'm afraid the only way this can be achieved is on the long term. The more white people have (good) relations with blacks in everyday life, the more community and the less alienness there is between both sides, the more racism will vanish ... or do you see a quicker way to achieve that?

So my guess is, the more white people learn to know blacks in everyday life, not just as low workers, but as doctors, policemen, businessowners and so on, as people not any less influencial than whites, the quicker they'll lose their prejudices.
It's a start, but that will only work for people who aren't racist to begin with. The racists don't want equality, they don't want black people to achieve the same levels of success that was once the exclusive domain of whites, that's where a lot of the hostility and animosity comes from, the fear of losing power and control that comes from being at the top of the social economic hierarchy.

I don't know if you've noticed, but most of the white racists on this site only have one view of black people - as poor, uneducated, criminals who all live in ghettos. Apparently they have no idea that there are affluent all black neighborhoods in the U.S.

Also, the only people who can began to dismantle system racism in this country are the people who instituted it in the first place. Removing the laws while allowing the prohibited behaviors to remain and continue only serves to provide cover to the racists because they will point to the fact that the laws have been rescinded yet refuse to even acknowledge the fact that the behaviors have not changed.
No, none of that is true.
 

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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.
Then why are you always trying to alienate as many white people as possible?

If you don't realize you are doing so, you're a brain-dead moron.

If you do, you are deliberately causing pain and suffering for malicious purposes.






Either way, you are fucking trash.
No the fucking trash are the same white racists here who always show up complaining about black people who don't conform to your addled stereotypes of who black people actually are.

You know who you are. And there is nothing to be concerned about regarding alienating the trash that populates this board. You are delusional to think any civilized person would want to be associated with you.

You guys are the ones trying to make this happen, not me.
I like having my giant, multi-colored family all together, you and your ilk are doing your best to destroy the bonds we have built up over 30 years.

Keep it up you racist fucktards......
 

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"Honey, I trained as a nurse-----Its the FAT, Diabetes, the DRUGS, and FRIED FOOD and SICKLE cell that cause the heart issues. On average, blacks are far far fatter than everyone else--I'm not being mean --I am just stating the facts. Drug abuse is far far more prevalent.................and blacks have a culture that eats far far more fried food than everyone else as well. Then you have sickle cell anemia and that on average blacks are bigger with higher testerone in both males and females than other races (larger animals tend to die before their smaller counter parts because their hearts have to work harder--see breeds of dogs for example).... And yes sweetie, both medical and nursing schools are racist as hell as they do teach that their certain differences in the disease process among races and that treatment is different based on cultures as well."

I don't give a damn what you trained in. I am black. You aren't trained in that.

The study of the psychological and physical damage caused by racism is relatively new. Stress causes self destructive behaviors such as over eating or drug use.

But since you are a racist you want to make moral judgements.

Many outside of the African American or other non-white communities do not seem to understand to what extent racism can drive a person to unhealthy and societally negative behaviors. Reality dictates that emotions are involved in this matter and there is a very wide spectrum of emotions people will express in such situations. To understand the dual standards in such thinking, white people have used drugs and became addicted to them to escape a bad situation, but when it comes to blacks or other minorities and drug use, there is no excuse for “you people” to get strung out. While a white person can get addicted to pills and claim they did so to escape the pain of abuses they have endured, blacks or other nonwhites can’t say how they have endured racism and are addicted because of the pain that causes. Instead, it is a failure of an inferior culture.

That is what tutlesoup has done.
You play the race card to dismiss all arguments and then claim you're not a racist?

Wow...... I am in awe of your hypocrisy, and you lack of self-awareness, lol.





Trash.
 

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"Almost every post on this subject ends up with the same worthless, tired, approach: what do old mean white guys have to do to fix things for the weak-minded, loser blacks. I know, let's shovel more welfare at them. And let's put more of them in good jobs, for which they're not qualified.

What is almost NEVER asked is: what should blacks be doing for themselves? And, what changes can blacks make in their own culture to help young blacks have a better chance to succeed? YES, blacks are NOT perfect, and they are not helpless."


First, Ghost Rider is completely wrong.

And of course IM2 will not say how or why I’m wrong and if asked he will refuse to answer. On top of that, if I ask how I’m wrong he won’t see it anyway because he has me on ignore and refuses to debate me face to face.

Here’s a tidbit you need to be aware of about IM2 if there’s any doubt in your mind that he’s full of shit (although you’re probably already convinced anyway): In a discussion a couple of years ago about black racism, I related a personal story of my experience with black racism and what was IM2’s kneejerk response? He accused me of making it up. In other words, he called me a liar with no basis or justification whatsoever.
Well he's a liar and a flaming racist, so of course he figure everyone else must be too.
 

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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.

But how do you end racism?

I'm afraid the only way this can be achieved is on the long term. The more white people have (good) relations with blacks in everyday life, the more community and the less alienness there is between both sides, the more racism will vanish ... or do you see a quicker way to achieve that?

So my guess is, the more white people learn to know blacks in everyday life, not just as low workers, but as doctors, policemen, businessowners and so on, as people not any less influencial than whites, the quicker they'll lose their prejudices.
We've both lived in this country for 400 years, it's time whites stopped teaching their children some of the shit they teach them and white racist adults need to unlearn some of the garbage they believe.

Yes, I agree... but how do you bring this about?

In the end, I guess the only thing that will truly convince many people, is when they hear a racist prejudice and think "no, that's not what my black buddy/neighbor/boss is like" and thus discard it.
Thats been going on for now 245 years. Today whites want to lie to themselves or get indignant when they are called to the carpaet on their racism. Read these posts and you see that 99.9 percent of these guys in here employ racial gaslighting and plausible deniability to deny or excuse their racism.

In 2021.

It's not my job to end white racism. It is my job to make certain blacks do not allow themselves to become examples these racists use to claim how their racist beliefs are the correct ones. Whites know what it will take to end this quickly but it easier to string things along when you are not the ones affected.
i know you will not respond ....but you have yet to address the biggest problem in the black community ....and that problem is fatherless single parent homes ! racist like you have no real interest in improving the black community if you did you would be speaking about the need for a black father in the home ! instead you spout grievances about racism ! racism is your crutch .you need it . its much easier to blame someone else for failures self inflicted ! the biggest cause of death for young black men is violence committed by other young black men ! thats a fact ! the only thing that will help the inner cities and the black community is a focus on the lack of fathers in the home .
There is no polite way to say this, so I'll just come out with it - your comment is completely full of crap if for no other reason than one of the poorest communities in this country is white Appalachia, which has the same issues that you all constantly attempt to attribute solely to the black community.

It's one thing to be ignorant of a particular subject, none of us are knowledgeable of every single topic but you all KNOW that the things you are stating are not issues solely of the black community yet you keep on repeating them. When you do that it makes you appear to be dishonest or ignorant or both although we know you're not completely ignorant because you all have been informed time and again that your comments are erroneous.

The link: America's poorest white town: abandoned by coal, swallowed by drugs
An excerpt:
Through much of the 19th century, this part of the Bluegrass State was romanticised in stories of rugged frontiersmen and courageous hunters as the epitome of American self-reliance. None more so than Daniel Boone, a hunter and surveyor at the forefront of settling Kentucky. A good part of Lee County carves into a national forest named after him.

“Cultural heritage here is important,” said Dee Davis, whose family was from Lee County, though he grew up in a neighbouring county where he heads the Center for Rural Strategies. “The first bestselling novels were about this region. It was at one time the iconic America. This kind of frontier: white, noble. This was the iconography.”

By the time Johnson arrived a different image had taken hold – that of the anti-modern, moonshine swilling, gun toting, backwards “hillbilly”. The stereotype was perpetuated on television by a popular 1960s comedy show, The Beverly Hillbillies, in which unsophisticated mountain folk find oil on their land, get rich and move with their guns, bibles and Confederate sympathies to live among California’s millionaires.

In 2003, Davis led a campaign against a CBS plan to remake the comedy as reality television by setting up a poor Appalachian family in a Beverly Hills mansion. One mocking CBS executive remarked on the potential: “Imagine the episode where they have to interview maids.”

Davis beat back CBS but said the planned programme reflected a sense that white people living in poorer communities were blamed for their condition.

“There’s this feeling here like people are looking down on you. Feeling like it’s OK to laugh at you, to pity you. You’re not on the same common ground for comparison as someone who’s better off or living in a better place. That doesn’t mean it’s always true, it just means we feel that burden quickly. We’re primed to react to people we think are looking down on us. That they judge us for our clothes, judge us for our car, judge us for our income, the way we talk,” he said.

“This is the poorest congressional district in the United States. I grew up delivering furniture with my dad. No one ever said they were in poverty. That’s a word that’s used to judge people. You hear them say, I may be a poor man but we live a pretty good life for poor people. People refer to themselves as poor but they won’t refer to themselves as in poverty.”

Karen Jennings encountered the prejudice when she first left Beattyville.

“When I went to Louisville as a teenager to work in Waffle House I had this country accent. They laughed at me and asked if we even had bathrooms where I come from. People here are judged in the bigger cities and they resent that,” she said. “The difference is the cities hide their problems. Here it’s too small to hide them. There’s the drugs, and the poverty. There’s a lot of the old people come in here for food. The welfare isn’t enough. Three girls in my granddaughter’s class are pregnant. This is a hard place to grow up. People don’t hide it but they resent being judged for it.”
 
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"Honey, I trained as a nurse-----Its the FAT, Diabetes, the DRUGS, and FRIED FOOD and SICKLE cell that cause the heart issues. On average, blacks are far far fatter than everyone else--I'm not being mean --I am just stating the facts. Drug abuse is far far more prevalent.................and blacks have a culture that eats far far more fried food than everyone else as well. Then you have sickle cell anemia and that on average blacks are bigger with higher testerone in both males and females than other races (larger animals tend to die before their smaller counter parts because their hearts have to work harder--see breeds of dogs for example).... And yes sweetie, both medical and nursing schools are racist as hell as they do teach that their certain differences in the disease process among races and that treatment is different based on cultures as well."

I don't give a damn what you trained in. I am black. You aren't trained in that.

The study of the psychological and physical damage caused by racism is relatively new. Stress causes self destructive behaviors such as over eating or drug use.

But since you are a racist you want to make moral judgements.

Many outside of the African American or other non-white communities do not seem to understand to what extent racism can drive a person to unhealthy and societally negative behaviors. Reality dictates that emotions are involved in this matter and there is a very wide spectrum of emotions people will express in such situations. To understand the dual standards in such thinking, white people have used drugs and became addicted to them to escape a bad situation, but when it comes to blacks or other minorities and drug use, there is no excuse for “you people” to get strung out. While a white person can get addicted to pills and claim they did so to escape the pain of abuses they have endured, blacks or other nonwhites can’t say how they have endured racism and are addicted because of the pain that causes. Instead, it is a failure of an inferior culture.

That is what tutlesoup has done.
You play the race card to dismiss all arguments and then claim you're not a racist?

Wow...... I am in awe of your hypocrisy, and you lack of self-awareness, lol.





Trash.
The only person playing the race card here is you. I'm black and have experienced these things. Therefore I am certainly an expert on what blacks endure and certainly more qualified than your ass to talk about it. I'm not here to impress nary a one of you white racists. What I AM going to do is speak the truth to your lies, in no uncertain terms, and whether you like it, don't like it, disagree with it or whatever, I don't give a shit.

Do you understand white boy?
 
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You're really a dumb ass.

“The American government spends more on corporate welfare than it does on food stamps and financial assistance for needy families with children.”
.

I don't have a problem with it if you want to get pissed because the Federal Government is spending more money in corporate welfare subsidizing green energy,
than they do in social welfare subsidizing food stamps.

It's all welfare, and an example of the misuse of the General Welfare Clause in the Preamble of the US Constitution,
and not the purpose General Welfare Clause as defined in Article I of the US Constitution.

It is not a direct violation of the US Constitution, unless you are a Strict Constructionist and believe in a more accurate interpretation of the Law.
However ... There is nothing that forbids State and Local governments from handling their social and corporate welfare concerns,
and neither are required to be Federally funded or executed.

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"Honey, I trained as a nurse-----Its the FAT, Diabetes, the DRUGS, and FRIED FOOD and SICKLE cell that cause the heart issues. On average, blacks are far far fatter than everyone else--I'm not being mean --I am just stating the facts. Drug abuse is far far more prevalent.................and blacks have a culture that eats far far more fried food than everyone else as well. Then you have sickle cell anemia and that on average blacks are bigger with higher testerone in both males and females than other races (larger animals tend to die before their smaller counter parts because their hearts have to work harder--see breeds of dogs for example).... And yes sweetie, both medical and nursing schools are racist as hell as they do teach that their certain differences in the disease process among races and that treatment is different based on cultures as well."

I don't give a damn what you trained in. I am black. You aren't trained in that.

The study of the psychological and physical damage caused by racism is relatively new. Stress causes self destructive behaviors such as over eating or drug use.

But since you are a racist you want to make moral judgements.

Many outside of the African American or other non-white communities do not seem to understand to what extent racism can drive a person to unhealthy and societally negative behaviors. Reality dictates that emotions are involved in this matter and there is a very wide spectrum of emotions people will express in such situations. To understand the dual standards in such thinking, white people have used drugs and became addicted to them to escape a bad situation, but when it comes to blacks or other minorities and drug use, there is no excuse for “you people” to get strung out. While a white person can get addicted to pills and claim they did so to escape the pain of abuses they have endured, blacks or other nonwhites can’t say how they have endured racism and are addicted because of the pain that causes. Instead, it is a failure of an inferior culture.

That is what tutlesoup has done.
You play the race card to dismiss all arguments and then claim you're not a racist?

Wow...... I am in awe of your hypocrisy, and you lack of self-awareness, lol.





Trash.
The only person playing the race card here is you. I'm black and have experienced these things. Therefore I am certainly an expert on what blacks endure anf certain more qualified than your ass to talk about it. I'm not here to impresse nary a one of you white racists. What I AM going to do is speak the truth to your lies, in no uncertain terms, and whether you like it, don't like it, disagree with it or whatecer, I don't give a shit.

Do you understand white boy?
Lol, you're a liar, you're a racist, and you're a pathetic coward.





And you're determined to never be anything else.
 

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So now let us once again return to black crime and per capita.

In 2019, the FBI UCR showed that 3218 blacks committed murder in the US. That number equalled 0.0000687606838 of the black population and 0.00000975151515 of the American population. If we break that down per capita it equals 7 per 100,000.

A study published in July 2020 by the Heart Association showed that Black people had a nearly twofold higher mortality rate than their white peers for hypertension-related heart disease deaths in 2018, according to the study. That year, the death rate for Black men was 206.6 per 100,000 people, compared with 117.2 for white men. The death rates were 132.7 for Black women and 81.5 for white women. That's even after white men experienced the greatest spike during the entire research period.


If you combine black men/women, 170 per 100,000 blacks die from hypertension related heart disease. "Hypertension can affect any individual, and it has several risk factors; however, it is quite common with those suffering from anxiety attacks, as stress and anxiety causes a rapid rise in blood pressure. It's important to monitor your hypertension."


Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body as an individual is exposed to constant stress. Constant stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the cumulative amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Studies show that allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks. Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”, a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. What they found as a result of their study was not only that racism increased the occurrence of heart attacks for blacks, but reduced the occurrence of heart attacks for whites.

“This study demonstrates adverse effects of structural racism—specifically state-level racial disparities disadvantaging Blacks in political representation, employment, and incarceration —on past 12-month myocardial infarction. These adverse effects, however, were specific to Blacks, and among Whites, indicators of structural racism appear to have a benign or even beneficial effect on cardiac health. It is important to note that individual-level risk factors including age, sex, education, income, and medical insurance do not account for these findings. Furthermore, lending support to the construct validity of our measures of structural racism, the effects persist above and beyond those of state-level racial disparities in poverty.

Measures of structural racism pertaining to job status did not follow the expected pattern of association, and were inversely associated with myocardial infarction among Blacks. While this finding was unexpected, it is in line with results from previous studies that have documented that Black Americans in high status positions report greater exposure to interpersonal discrimination (Paradies, 2006). This increased exposure, coupled with potential pressures to assimilate and to defy negative racist stereotypes, may in turn place high status Blacks at greater risk for adverse health outcomes. Our results similarly suggest that Black Americans in states with greater representation of Blacks in high status positions are at higher risk for heart attack.”

-Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes -“Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States”

24 times more blacks die from stress related heart attacks than are killed by other blacks. That stress is caused by white racism.
Drug abuse, obesity, and fried food will lead to higher incidents of heart attacks, FOOL. All of which are common problems among the black population at higher incidents than asians or whites.

There are many studies that show social status has a high influence on all these things. It's not all "choice", in the end, your social situation will always determine your life, at least to a certain degree.

So what do you propose to improve the average social status of blacks?
That's a crock. The end of racism in the white community would improve a lot of things.

But how do you end racism?

I'm afraid the only way this can be achieved is on the long term. The more white people have (good) relations with blacks in everyday life, the more community and the less alienness there is between both sides, the more racism will vanish ... or do you see a quicker way to achieve that?

So my guess is, the more white people learn to know blacks in everyday life, not just as low workers, but as doctors, policemen, businessowners and so on, as people not any less influencial than whites, the quicker they'll lose their prejudices.
We've both lived in this country for 400 years, it's time whites stopped teaching their children some of the shit they teach them and white racist adults need to unlearn some of the garbage they believe.

Yes, I agree... but how do you bring this about?

In the end, I guess the only thing that will truly convince many people, is when they hear a racist prejudice and think "no, that's not what my black buddy/neighbor/boss is like" and thus discard it.
Thats been going on for now 245 years. Today whites want to lie to themselves or get indignant when they are called to the carpaet on their racism. Read these posts and you see that 99.9 percent of these guys in here employ racial gaslighting and plausible deniability to deny or excuse their racism.

In 2021.

It's not my job to end white racism. It is my job to make certain blacks do not allow themselves to become examples these racists use to claim how their racist beliefs are the correct ones. Whites know what it will take to end this quickly but it easier to string things along when you are not the ones affected.
i know you will not respond ....but you have yet to address the biggest problem in the black community ....and that problem is fatherless single parent homes ! racist like you have no real interest in improving the black community if you did you would be speaking about the need for a black father in the home ! instead you spout grievances about racism ! racism is your crutch .you need it . its much easier to blame someone else for failures self inflicted ! the biggest cause of death for young black men is violence committed by other young black men ! thats a fact ! the only thing that will help the inner cities and the black community is a focus on the lack of fathers in the home .
There is no polite way to say this, so I'll just come out with it - your comment is completely full of crap if for no other reason than one of the poorest communities in this country is white Appalachia, which has the same issues that you all constantly attempt to attribute solely to the black community.

It's one thing to be ignorant of a particular subject, none of us are knowledgeable of every single topic but you all KNOW that the things you are stating are not issues solely of the black community yet you keep on repeating them. When you do that it makes you appear to be dishonest or ignorant or both although we know you're not completely ignorant because you all have been informed time and again that your comments are erroneous.

The link: America's poorest white town: abandoned by coal, swallowed by drugs
An excerpt:
Through much of the 19th century, this part of the Bluegrass State was romanticised in stories of rugged frontiersmen and courageous hunters as the epitome of American self-reliance. None more so than Daniel Boone, a hunter and surveyor at the forefront of settling Kentucky. A good part of Lee County carves into a national forest named after him.

“Cultural heritage here is important,” said Dee Davis, whose family was from Lee County, though he grew up in a neighbouring county where he heads the Center for Rural Strategies. “The first bestselling novels were about this region. It was at one time the iconic America. This kind of frontier: white, noble. This was the iconography.”

By the time Johnson arrived a different image had taken hold – that of the anti-modern, moonshine swilling, gun toting, backwards “hillbilly”. The stereotype was perpetuated on television by a popular 1960s comedy show, The Beverly Hillbillies, in which unsophisticated mountain folk find oil on their land, get rich and move with their guns, bibles and Confederate sympathies to live among California’s millionaires.

In 2003, Davis led a campaign against a CBS plan to remake the comedy as reality television by setting up a poor Appalachian family in a Beverly Hills mansion. One mocking CBS executive remarked on the potential: “Imagine the episode where they have to interview maids.”

Davis beat back CBS but said the planned programme reflected a sense that white people living in poorer communities were blamed for their condition.

“There’s this feeling here like people are looking down on you. Feeling like it’s OK to laugh at you, to pity you. You’re not on the same common ground for comparison as someone who’s better off or living in a better place. That doesn’t mean it’s always true, it just means we feel that burden quickly. We’re primed to react to people we think are looking down on us. That they judge us for our clothes, judge us for our car, judge us for our income, the way we talk,” he said.

“This is the poorest congressional district in the United States. I grew up delivering furniture with my dad. No one ever said they were in poverty. That’s a word that’s used to judge people. You hear them say, I may be a poor man but we live a pretty good life for poor people. People refer to themselves as poor but they won’t refer to themselves as in poverty.”

Karen Jennings encountered the prejudice when she first left Beattyville.

“When I went to Louisville as a teenager to work in Waffle House I had this country accent. They laughed at me and asked if we even had bathrooms where I come from. People here are judged in the bigger cities and they resent that,” she said. “The difference is the cities hide their problems. Here it’s too small to hide them. There’s the drugs, and the poverty. There’s a lot of the old people come in here for food. The welfare isn’t enough. Three girls in my granddaughter’s class are pregnant. This is a hard place to grow up. People don’t hide it but they resent being judged for it.”
and they have a higher single parent rate also in those areas ! so you just proved my point ! as long as people like you deflect and refuse to accept the truth black society will not can not improve ! and Marxism disguised as Equity will not help ! it will only make it worse ! in 10 yrs blacks will be worse off than they are today ! the inner cities are getting worse and its not going to stop .
 
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I'm not sure it's scietifically accurate to say this stress is caused by white racism, as there are many other potential stressors, but it's not hard to imagine white racism at least contributes.

I'm 100 percent sure it is accurate. There are some things a black person experiences when a racist event happens relative to body chemistry. Racism just adds to a black persons allostatic load and if it gets to be an overload, then we see bad health outcomes to include death.

Perhaps it's impossible for a white living in a predominantly white society to imagine what that's like... so I'm not saying that's the same, but everybody who has been in a certain situation where he/she was a minority regarding a certain crucial trait can at least somewhat relate, I guess.

When I worked in a retirement home as a very young guy where boss and 95% of the staff were (older) females kind of gave me an idea what young females sometimes get to hear at a predominantly male workplace, for example.

Now I imagine it's pretty tough for blacks who statistically are a minority most of the time at most places.

You are trying to understand and I respect you for that. It's a hell of a lot better than these idiots in here who have never been black but think they can tell a 60 year old black man that he doesn't know what affects black people.
Well, you're a rabidly racist liar, so there's that.
Yawn! You bore me little boy. Grow up and face the truth.
No problem.

Truth is, you're a liar and a raging racist.

I hope your daughter marries a white guy...... it's going to be hilarious when he has to explain to you that when she says "Daddy" from now on, she's referring to him, lol.

Lol! That's not the truth and I don't have a daughter. You are just another stump stupid racist who thinks that because I don't like your racist punk ass that I am supposed to hate all white people.
I know you're a racist because all you ever do here is spew anti-white racist garbage.

Day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day...........

:rolleyes:
Opposing racism is not racism.

Day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day........

I read pure white racist filth. From bitches like you.

I don't post anti white anything. I post anti racist facts.

So are you saying that being white ,means being racist?

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"Honey, I trained as a nurse-----Its the FAT, Diabetes, the DRUGS, and FRIED FOOD and SICKLE cell that cause the heart issues. On average, blacks are far far fatter than everyone else--I'm not being mean --I am just stating the facts. Drug abuse is far far more prevalent.................and blacks have a culture that eats far far more fried food than everyone else as well. Then you have sickle cell anemia and that on average blacks are bigger with higher testerone in both males and females than other races (larger animals tend to die before their smaller counter parts because their hearts have to work harder--see breeds of dogs for example).... And yes sweetie, both medical and nursing schools are racist as hell as they do teach that their certain differences in the disease process among races and that treatment is different based on cultures as well."

I don't give a damn what you trained in. I am black. You aren't trained in that.

The study of the psychological and physical damage caused by racism is relatively new. Stress causes self destructive behaviors such as over eating or drug use.

But since you are a racist you want to make moral judgements.

Many outside of the African American or other non-white communities do not seem to understand to what extent racism can drive a person to unhealthy and societally negative behaviors. Reality dictates that emotions are involved in this matter and there is a very wide spectrum of emotions people will express in such situations. To understand the dual standards in such thinking, white people have used drugs and became addicted to them to escape a bad situation, but when it comes to blacks or other minorities and drug use, there is no excuse for “you people” to get strung out. While a white person can get addicted to pills and claim they did so to escape the pain of abuses they have endured, blacks or other nonwhites can’t say how they have endured racism and are addicted because of the pain that causes. Instead, it is a failure of an inferior culture.

That is what tutlesoup has done.
You play the race card to dismiss all arguments and then claim you're not a racist?

Wow...... I am in awe of your hypocrisy, and you lack of self-awareness, lol.





Trash.
The only person playing the race card here is you. I'm black and have experienced these things. Therefore I am certainly an expert on what blacks endure anf certain more qualified than your ass to talk about it. I'm not here to impresse nary a one of you white racists. What I AM going to do is speak the truth to your lies, in no uncertain terms, and whether you like it, don't like it, disagree with it or whatecer, I don't give a shit.

Do you understand white boy?
Lol, you're a liar, you're a racist, and you're a pathetic coward.





And you're determined to never be anything else.
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I'm not sure it's scietifically accurate to say this stress is caused by white racism, as there are many other potential stressors, but it's not hard to imagine white racism at least contributes.

I'm 100 percent sure it is accurate. There are some things a black person experiences when a racist event happens relative to body chemistry. Racism just adds to a black persons allostatic load and if it gets to be an overload, then we see bad health outcomes to include death.

Perhaps it's impossible for a white living in a predominantly white society to imagine what that's like... so I'm not saying that's the same, but everybody who has been in a certain situation where he/she was a minority regarding a certain crucial trait can at least somewhat relate, I guess.

When I worked in a retirement home as a very young guy where boss and 95% of the staff were (older) females kind of gave me an idea what young females sometimes get to hear at a predominantly male workplace, for example.

Now I imagine it's pretty tough for blacks who statistically are a minority most of the time at most places.

You are trying to understand and I respect you for that. It's a hell of a lot better than these idiots in here who have never been black but think they can tell a 60 year old black man that he doesn't know what affects black people.
Well, you're a rabidly racist liar, so there's that.
Yawn! You bore me little boy. Grow up and face the truth.
No problem.

Truth is, you're a liar and a raging racist.

I hope your daughter marries a white guy...... it's going to be hilarious when he has to explain to you that when she says "Daddy" from now on, she's referring to him, lol.

Lol! That's not the truth and I don't have a daughter. You are just another stump stupid racist who thinks that because I don't like your racist punk ass that I am supposed to hate all white people.
I know you're a racist because all you ever do here is spew anti-white racist garbage.

Day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day...........

:rolleyes:
Opposing racism is not racism.

Day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day........

I read pure white racist filth. From bitches like you.

I don't post anti white anything. I post anti racist facts.

So are you saying that being white ,means being racist?

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