Bootney Lee Farnsworth
Diamond Member
The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term.
The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.
I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.
On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.
If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.
The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.
In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?
Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?
What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?
On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?
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The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.
I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.
On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.
If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.
The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.
In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?
Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?
What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?
On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?
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