2aguy
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Great explanation for why joe biden shouldn't be President....his anti-gun agenda...
Yes, 40 years of Republican economic and public policies have lead to a country which is sick, broke and unemployed - again. Three of the four largest economic crashes in American history have happened under Republican Presidents over the past 40 years - two in their second terms so they have no one to blame but Republicans, and now Trump has utterly cratered the economy, leading to social chaos, massive unemployment and the worst crash since the Great Depression. But hey, you can still have your guns.
Clutch them to your bossom. Hold tight, because that's all you have left after 40 years of Republican governance. You lost your unions under Reagan, your house and your manufacturing under Bush II, and now your health and peace of mind under Trump, but you've still got your guns!
Halleluah!!!
How did Trump crater the economy?
Be specific and cite policies.
Governors shut down the economy, not Trump you raving lunatic.
Be specific. Quote Policies....sheesh you righties are like broken records. Trump's denial and inaction caused these governors (Republican and Democrat..you guys always seem to forget that) to have to take action....almost two months into the pandemic outbreak. That's what cratered the economy. That gets laid right at Trump's feet. Specific enough for you? Ah..The hue and cry of "conservatism". A just and noble ideology. She's right on the money as far as Republican and conservative policy failures. You want to know why the country is in the shape it is, look no further than the failed belief system called conservatism.
But let's get back to gun control and the oft quoted YouTube Internet douche I call Hippie Stink...who looks like he's just another Russian troll.
Biden is lobbying for sensible gun control measures. I don't hear him talking about taking away firearms. Reducing proliferation of assault weapons is not infringing on your 2nd Amendment rights.
There is nothing sensible about what he wants.....each item only effects normal gun owners and does nothing to stop criminals.
We don't have a gun problem in this country. We have the democrat party constantly releasing the violent gun criminals into our communities over and over again...they are the ones doing 95% of all the shooting in democrat party controlled neighborhoods......if we vote out democrats, and start keeping violent criminals locked up, more Black Americans will live.....
We have a weapons proliferation problem in this country. We have too easy access to semi-automatic weapons and large magazine clips that honestly, aren't necessary and are only meant to kill or wound large numbers of people. I mean, you're not going to hunt with them. As far as the shootings you speak of, you need to first answer the question about how guns are so easily accessed in these cities. In other words, where do the majority of the guns that are used in this violence come from?..The answer..from straw buyers in gun friendly states. Rinse, recycle, repeat. This just one example...and by the way, you couldn't build enough jails to house all criminals (black, white, and other). That's a whole other discussion.
Where Do Guns Used to Commit Shootings in Chicago Come From?
They are accessed because criminals break the law.....
They use straw buyers.....people who can pass any background check, usually their girlfriends, mothers or grand mothers.....who they can intimidate and threaten to buy the guns.....and who likely won't face prosecution because District Attorneys don't want to convict baby mommas .....
And....tell me this......
Chicago......... vs. .....Houston....
Chicago has extreme gun control...there are no gun stores or shooting ranges in the city, and they make it hard to get permits to own and carry guns.
Houston....has open and concealed carry, and gun stores on every corner, shooting ranges on every corner.....and they are in a state next to the Narco state of Mexico...
Chicago..gun murder 2016......765
Houston....301
Population of cities 2016:
Chicago........2.7 million
L.A................3.9 million
N.Y................8.5 million
Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961
Detroit...........672,795
Milwaukee.....595,647
St. Louis.......311,404
Murder rate 2016:
Chicago........765
L.A.......... .....293
N.Y................335
Houston .......301
Baltimore......318
Detroit...........303
Milwaukee.... 142
St. Louis..........188
Your theory on straw buyers doesn't make any sense if a city and state with easier access to guns than Chicago has a gun murder rate lower than Chicago.......you can't explain that.....
Dittos the states around Chicago...who have lower gun murder rates...the cities where these criminals are allegedly buying their guns have lower gun murder rates than Chicago....which makes no sense since the guns are more easily available in the original state...
YOu can't explain that.
In a gun regulated city, how do you think the majority of guns get into the city? And are then recycled for use in more crimes? You really don't think there are drug dealers and gang members holed up in their basements in these cities with tool and die presses manufacturing the bulk of the guns that are used in these shootings?...do you? And the gun friendly states have a lower murder rate? well...yeah..duh...because most of them are RURAL. Every single city you cite below is within driving distance of a gun friendly state, and the firearms flow from there. You really don't think gang members and drug dealers are at these gun shows in these states buying up firearms to bring into these cities?....sheesh. ...Straw buyers dude.
Look, there has been more than enough research done on this subject. All you have to do is Google.
Chicago........765
L.A.......... .....293
N.Y................335
Houston .......301
Baltimore......318
Detroit...........303
Milwaukee.... 142
St. Louis..........188
Let me offer you a warning. If you take a hardline stand on gun control, eventually, you'll find your side losing sympathy from those of us who think every law abiding citizen of sound mind has the right to bear and carry firearms (but not to protests..show a little dignity). Try being flexible and see the carnage for what it is. Make some sensible laws and I promise you, those of us who can see the big picture will defend your right to own a firearm. Those who want to confiscate guns, aren't dealing in reality.
You don't understand the issue.........that is why you can't solve the problem.....
America Should Be Prosecuting Straw Purchasers, Not Gun Dealers | National Review
Wisconsin isn’t alone in its nonchalance. California normally treats straw purchases as misdemeanors or minor infractions. Even as the people of Baltimore suffer horrific levels of violence, Maryland classifies the crime as a misdemeanor, too. Straw buying is a felony in progressive Connecticut, albeit one in the second-least-serious order of felonies. It is classified as a serious crime in Illinois (Class 2 felony), but police rarely (meaning “almost never”) go after the nephews and girlfriends with clean records who provide Chicago’s diverse and sundry gangsters with their weapons. In Delaware, it’s a Class F felony, like forging a check. In Oregon, it’s a misdemeanor.
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I visited Chicago a few years back to write about the city’s gang-driven murder problem, and a retired police official told me that the nature of the people making straw purchases — young relatives, girlfriends who may or may not have been facing the threat of physical violence, grandmothers, etc. — made prosecuting those cases unattractive. In most of those cases, the authorities emphatically should put the straw purchasers in prison for as long as possible. Throw a few gangsters’ grandmothers behind bars for 20 years and see if that gets anybody’s attention. In the case of the young women suborned into breaking the law, that should be just another charge to put on the main offender.
America should be prosecuting the gun dealers.
Bullshit, regulated pertains to the militia. The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.The 2nd amendment gives one the right to have a firearm yet it doesn't mean that they can't be well regulated.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It is not an "infringement" on your right to bear arms, to limit they types of weapons available to the public. Regulating the market is not an "infringement", nor is requiring training. Any of the things you do to protect the public in the operation of a motor vehicle, you can require of gun owners.
You have no compunctions about taking that "right" away from convicted felons. It seems you have no compunctions about stripping some people of their rights. Whatever your rationalization, it comes down to "All of the animals are equal, but some are more equal than others".
Only someone as stupid as you would say prohibiting something isn't an "infringement." Can you feed yourself, can you dress yourself....cause that statement puts that into doubt.
You, like the rest of the left wingers here are insane. There is something wrong with your brains. You can't see truth, facts or reality, and are dangerous...