And you are right, Gender Studies, just an example I came up with off the top of my head, is not even on this list.
So thanks for backing up my point about wasting $50k on each of those majors.
Except nobody is. they are wasting 50K on degrees and there aren't the jobs there to pay them off. That's the problem.
The real problem is that we have too many jobs that require a bachelor's degree for jobs that don't really need one. For instance, my background is in purchasing and procurement. 30 years ago, you really didn't need a degree to get into that field. Today, you do, and I know a lot of buyers who won't get considered for jobs because the applicant tracking software they use to sort resumes won't even consider them.
First of all, nothing is "free". That being said, I am open to government-funded or government-assisted college and technical education. However, there needs to be limits and accountability on the recipients receiving funds for college. The current system where students and their parents had access to large debt funding in the name of college education got us into this mess.
No, stupid, what got us into this mess is big business demanding people have bachelor degrees for anything that pays above minimum wage.
A lot of people aren't cut out for college and are kind of wasting their time going, but the system INSISTS they get a degree.
then you have a scholarship system where the people who are paying are also paying for the Athletes. This was one of the things that pissed me off when I went to college. I didn't have to pay tuition, thanks to the Army, but I did have to pay for fees. The biggest ticket item on the fees? Our wonderful Title IX required athletics programs where we were paying the tuition for mediocre student athletes.
The student should be pursuing an education that will yield skills to be met in the job market so that shortages can be addressed and the student can pay back the loan in a reasonable time frame or otherwise eliminate the need for irresponsible bailouts. Maybe also require the student to serve 5 years in the public sector in areas where skills sets are needed such as IT or healthcare.
Or maybe we should get rid of the requirement that you need a bachelor's degree for an entry level purchasing job.
Except nobody is. they are wasting 50K on degrees and there aren't the jobs there to pay them off. That's the problem.
First I don't believe that. But if you do, then you should support lowering taxes and deregulation, to increase job creation.
The real problem is that we have too many jobs that require a bachelor's degree for jobs that don't really need one. For instance, my background is in purchasing and procurement. 30 years ago, you really didn't need a degree to get into that field. Today, you do, and I know a lot of buyers who won't get considered for jobs because the applicant tracking software they use to sort resumes won't even consider them.
All of that is somewhat true. I do know of people who got jobs without a degree, because they had prior experience. And you can get positions in purchasing and procurement, without a degree. I just did a job search no Indeed, and there were a dozen that did not require degrees.
That said, you are correct. Here's the irony.
It is exactly because we subsidize and promote degrees so much, that results in them being required.
If we did not encourage people to get degrees, and use the government to subsidies them, fewer people would have degrees.
As a result, companies would be far more willing to hire people without degrees, because otherwise, they would never hire anyone.
It is exactly because so many have degrees they don't need.... that companies are filtering out based on degrees.
Think about it another way. If you have 100 applicants for a job, and only 3 of them have degrees, unless those three are the perfect candidates, you are likely going to consider those without degrees.
But if 50 of the 100 have degrees, you are just going to filter out the other 50, and focus on those with degrees.
So it is almost exclusively because government and the public has pushed having a degree so much, that makes it difficult for anyone without. We shouldn't be subsidizing higher education at all.
No, stupid, what got us into this mess is big business demanding people have bachelor degrees for anything that pays above minimum wage.
No. That would be wrong, you mindless unthinking idiot. (dish it out, get it back).
A lot of people aren't cut out for college and are kind of wasting their time going, but the system INSISTS they get a degree.
I would disagree. There are many ways to get a very well paying jobs without a degree. I know people who have done it. I know a lady right now that started working at bank while she was in high school, and never went to college. Today she's a bank manager, making six figures.
I know a guy that worked his way up, from being an minimum wage employee, and now is a branch manager of a auto parts company. No degree.
I know a lady that became a district manager for a large retail chain. No degree.
Now obviously there is a benefit to having a degree, in that you can skip steps. If you have a degree, you usually don't have to start at an entry level job, and work your way up. You can skip starting at the bottom rung on the ladder.
I didn't have to pay tuition, thanks to the Army, but I did have to pay for fees. The biggest ticket item on the fees? Our wonderful Title IX required athletics programs where we were paying the tuition for mediocre student athletes.
Agreed. We should completely and entirely deregulate everything. If schools had to compete against each other for students, then the school with the best deal (because students would be paying for their own education), would end up with the students. A school that forced students to pay for ridiculous crap they don't want, would lose students.... and thus be forced to eliminate those unnecessary fees for things they don't want.
Or maybe we should get rid of the requirement that you need a bachelor's degree for an entry level purchasing job.
How exactly do you plan on doing that? If you personally are going to hire someone to do anything for you, are you suggesting the government ban you from considering their qualifications?
Really? You are going to have the government make a rules "Employers are not allowed to consider the qualifications of an applicant"?