Ex-Soviet intelligence officer attended meeting with Kushner and Trump Jr

[debbiedowner]

Every lawyer in freaking Russia was probably a Soviet intelligence officer at one time or another. How many actual Soviet intelligence officers did Bill Clinton meet on his tour of Russia when he caught their eye while protesting against his own Country as a student in the U.K.?

Is this thread about Bill Clinton? When you have nothing else you revert back 21 years.

 

[debbiedowner]

Every lawyer in freaking Russia was probably a Soviet intelligence officer at one time or another. How many actual Soviet intelligence officers did Bill Clinton meet on his tour of Russia when he caught their eye while protesting against his own Country as a student in the U.K.?

During a Soviet era every tourist to Moscow was given a "minder" who escorted them everywhere they went and reported what they did and said to the Kremlin. There were probably millions of them. I'm sure the fake news media would call all these people "Russian spies" if they ever spoke with anyone in the Trump campaign.

Damn, I bet the veins have been popping out of your forehead all morning. You're gona have a stroke. Is Trump worth a Stroke?

 

[debbiedowner]

The facts?
The entire premise of the meeting was to transfer information that came directly from the Russian govt in support of Trump.


The only defense against this is that junior was just far too dumb to understand what was happening.
That may be true but in no way absolves him or the Trump campaign.

It was to "TRANSFER" information? Why do you snowflakes take ordinary activities and make them sound like some kind of CIA jargon? Talking is "transferring" information. It's a perfectly normal and legal activity that occurs every day billions of times.

If someone had a copy of Hillary's emails where she lied about Benghazi and they told me about it, would I be guilty of participating in the "transferring" of information directly from the US government? Basically what you're saying is that telling people what you know is a crime. Of course, those are the logical contortions that snowflakes have to inflict on us to support their Russian hack idiocies.

No defense is required for the "crime" of listening to someone else talk. It's a perfectly normal activity protected by the First Amendment.

Bottom line: you're a fucking moron.

Look, moron. You cannot spin this. It is what it is. It is straight up collusion. It could not be any clearer. It's as if the Russians wanted these emails to spell it out clearly. The funny part is that junior released them himself.


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By "the Russians" you mean two people. I'm not "spinning" anything. I'm simply pointing out the known facts as opposed to the wild snowflake fantasies that you're spewing. Nothing in the email indicates a crime of any kind. It doesn't even indicate "collusion," which isn't a crime.

Jr released them because they are utterly innocuous. They are a great big nothing burger.

I'm sure that's the way this will all work out.

In another day or two this "smoking gun" will be totally dissolved into a puddle of shit.

You've been rambling the same shit for months now. This nothing burger is turning into a Big Mac and you're going down with Ronald McDonald.

 

[debbiedowner]

No one ever said the Russian government wanted him to have the information.

Fact 1: Junior is informed the Russian government has some dirt on Clinton and wants to meddle in our election to help his father:

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Good morning

Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

Best

Rob Goldstone





Fact 2: Junior gleefully accepts the Russian government's offer to meddle in our election:

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,

Don




Fact 3: A meeting is suggested at which Junior can discuss the Clinton dirt with the Russian government via a cutout:

Don

Hope all is well

Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

Best

Rob Goldstone


Fact 4: Junior agrees to the meeting with the Russian government cutout to discuss the Clinton dirt at Trump Tower, thereby colluding with Russia in their efforts to meddle in our election:


On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.

D


Fact 5: Junior actually meets with the Russian government cutout.

You'll have to excuse me. I was wrong in saying no one said the Russian government wanted him to have the information. I mis-remembered the exact wording.

However, that doesn't alter the fact that Trump never claimed to have that understanding. What some publicist says in an email is one thing. What Trump believes is another, and you have no indication that he believed anything the publicist said.

Within a couple hours of Junior agreeing to meet with the Russian cutout, his father went on national TV to announce he was going to have some very important bad things to report about Clinton in a few days.

Of course Trump knew!

By "Trump" I meant Trump Jr.

Hmmmm, so? It didn't pan out. The woman lied. She had no information.

Now how do you know she had nothing? Because Jr says so or because you say so?

 

[Clintonista]

New and devastating bombshells released almost every single day

REVEALED: Ex-Soviet intelligence officer attended meeting with Kushner and Trump Jr

So much for "we only talked about adoptions".

Just how stupid do you have to be to have believed that in the first place? Why would the top Trump campaign people have attended a meeting about Russian adoptions? Come on people. THINK! The Russians were clearly offering a quid pro quo to get a repeal of the Magnitsky Act.

When oh when will the Trumps stop lying?

 

[bripat9643]

<YAWN!>

What's a matter little whiner made you weren't invited to mazzola party? The dems would have loved you in the middle.

Why is Trump responsible for this guy being at the meeting? Trump didn't invite him, and Trump had no way of knowing who the hell he was beforehand. On the other hand, Lynch's justice department should have known who the associates of the Russian lawyer were when the overruled immigration and allowed her into the country.

Of course they knew him and knew he was going to be at the meeting. A real American would never have even attended that meeting, sweetie.

"Of course?" Where's the evidence the Trump knew this guy was coming and knew who he was?

You haven't got a clue about what real Americans would do.

That's because he hasn't seen many on this board.

ROFL! I hope you don't put yourself in that category. Real Americans don't want to "fundamentally transform America." They like the country the way it is - or least the way it was.

 

[bripat9643]

No one ever said the Russian government wanted him to have the information.

Fact 1: Junior is informed the Russian government has some dirt on Clinton and wants to meddle in our election to help his father:

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Good morning

Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

Best

Rob Goldstone





Fact 2: Junior gleefully accepts the Russian government's offer to meddle in our election:

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,

Don




Fact 3: A meeting is suggested at which Junior can discuss the Clinton dirt with the Russian government via a cutout:

Don

Hope all is well

Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

Best

Rob Goldstone


Fact 4: Junior agrees to the meeting with the Russian government cutout to discuss the Clinton dirt at Trump Tower, thereby colluding with Russia in their efforts to meddle in our election:


On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.

D


Fact 5: Junior actually meets with the Russian government cutout.

You'll have to excuse me. I was wrong in saying no one said the Russian government wanted him to have the information. I mis-remembered the exact wording.

However, that doesn't alter the fact that Trump never claimed to have that understanding. What some publicist says in an email is one thing. What Trump believes is another, and you have no indication that he believed anything the publicist said.

Within a couple hours of Junior agreeing to meet with the Russian cutout, his father went on national TV to announce he was going to have some very important bad things to report about Clinton in a few days.

Of course Trump knew!

By "Trump" I meant Trump Jr.

Hmmmm, so? It didn't pan out. The woman lied. She had no information.

Now how do you know she had nothing? Because Jr says so or because you say so?

The guy she brought with her says she had nothing. I believe even she said she had nothing.

 

[Lakhota]

New and devastating bombshells released almost every single day

REVEALED: Ex-Soviet intelligence officer attended meeting with Kushner and Trump Jr

Unbelievable! It's like having Russian spies in the White House!

 

[bripat9643]

New and devastating bombshells released almost every single day

REVEALED: Ex-Soviet intelligence officer attended meeting with Kushner and Trump Jr

So much for "we only talked about adoptions".

Just how stupid do you have to be to have believed that in the first place? Why would the top Trump campaign people have attended a meeting about Russian adoptions? Come on people. THINK! The Russians were clearly offering a quid pro quo to get a repeal of the Magnitsky Act.

When oh when will the Trumps stop lying?

The so-called "intelligence agent" said she had nothing Trump was interested in. How is that a bombshell? Furthermore, he says he was never an intelligence agent.

More fake news.

You can invent imaginary conversations all you like. I can say Obama made a deal with the Russians to disarm the U.S. after the 2012 election. Would that be sufficient proof for all you snowflake morons to impeach Obama?

 

[bripat9643]

New and 'devastating bombshells' released

I am still waiting for the 1st...

-----------------------------------------------

Ok, I am actually taking bets on this one....

1. HOW LONG BEFORE THIS LATEST TRUMP COLLUSION SCAM GETS EXPOSED AS A HUGE 'NOTHINGBURGER'?

• BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY
• AT THE END OF TODAY
• SATURDAY
• SUNDAY

2. HOW LONG BEFORE IT BACKFIRES ON THE DEMOCRATS, POTENTIALLY EXPOSING THE FACT THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS BEHIND THIS ONE, TOO?

• BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY
• AT THE END OF TODAY
• SATURDAY
• SUNDAY

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Haven't both things already happened? I'm sure Tucker Carlson and Hannity will expose it.

 

[bripat9643]

You don't believe that in a meeting that purports to have sensitive information directly from the Russian govt that there would be representatives who are closely tied to said govt? Perhaps even intelligence folks who are managing such an operation?

You make all the assumptions you want about such a meeting. I just stick to the known facts. Trump wasn't told this guy was going to attend, and we don't in fact know that has any connection to the Russian government. We have no evidence of such. All you have is a bunch or brain damaged snowflake fantasies about what occurred.

The facts?
The entire premise of the meeting was to transfer information that came directly from the Russian govt in support of Trump.


The only defense against this is that junior was just far too dumb to understand what was happening.
That may be true but in no way absolves him or the Trump campaign.

It was to "TRANSFER" information? Why do you snowflakes take ordinary activities and make them sound like some kind of CIA jargon? Talking is "transferring" information. It's a perfectly normal and legal activity that occurs every day billions of times.

If someone had a copy of Hillary's emails where she lied about Benghazi and they told me about it, would I be guilty of participating in the "transferring" of information directly from the US government? Basically what you're saying is that telling people what you know is a crime. Of course, those are the logical contortions that snowflakes have to inflict on us to support their Russian hack idiocies.

No defense is required for the "crime" of listening to someone else talk. It's a perfectly normal activity protected by the First Amendment.

Bottom line: you're a fucking moron.

Look, moron. You cannot spin this. It is what it is. It is straight up collusion. It could not be any clearer. It's as if the Russians wanted these emails to spell it out clearly. The funny part is that junior released them himself.


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Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya presented the Trump associates with details of what she believed were illicit funds that had been funneled to the Democratic National Committee. And she suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign.

"This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money," Akhmetshin recalled her saying.

Trump Jr. asked the attorney if she had all the evidence to back up her claims, but Veselnitskaya said the Trump campaign would need to research it more. After that Trump Jr. lost interest, according to Akhmetshin.

Akhmetshin said the attorney brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents. He said he was unaware of the content of the documents or whether they were provided by the Russian government, and it was unclear whether she left the materials with the Trump associates.

News from The Associated Press

The money line in bold

In other words, she had nothing.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You make all the assumptions you want about such a meeting. I just stick to the known facts. Trump wasn't told this guy was going to attend, and we don't in fact know that has any connection to the Russian government. We have no evidence of such. All you have is a bunch or brain damaged snowflake fantasies about what occurred.

The facts?
The entire premise of the meeting was to transfer information that came directly from the Russian govt in support of Trump.


The only defense against this is that junior was just far too dumb to understand what was happening.
That may be true but in no way absolves him or the Trump campaign.

It was to "TRANSFER" information? Why do you snowflakes take ordinary activities and make them sound like some kind of CIA jargon? Talking is "transferring" information. It's a perfectly normal and legal activity that occurs every day billions of times.

If someone had a copy of Hillary's emails where she lied about Benghazi and they told me about it, would I be guilty of participating in the "transferring" of information directly from the US government? Basically what you're saying is that telling people what you know is a crime. Of course, those are the logical contortions that snowflakes have to inflict on us to support their Russian hack idiocies.

No defense is required for the "crime" of listening to someone else talk. It's a perfectly normal activity protected by the First Amendment.

Bottom line: you're a fucking moron.

Look, moron. You cannot spin this. It is what it is. It is straight up collusion. It could not be any clearer. It's as if the Russians wanted these emails to spell it out clearly. The funny part is that junior released them himself.


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Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya presented the Trump associates with details of what she believed were illicit funds that had been funneled to the Democratic National Committee. And she suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign.

"This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money," Akhmetshin recalled her saying.

Trump Jr. asked the attorney if she had all the evidence to back up her claims, but Veselnitskaya said the Trump campaign would need to research it more. After that Trump Jr. lost interest, according to Akhmetshin.

Akhmetshin said the attorney brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents. He said he was unaware of the content of the documents or whether they were provided by the Russian government, and it was unclear whether she left the materials with the Trump associates.

News from The Associated Press

The money line in bold

In other words, she had nothing.

How does that change the fact that the Trump campaign took the meeting and lied about it for months?

 

[easyt65]

How does that change the fact that the Trump campaign took the meeting and lied about it for months?

No information was passed.
No crime committed.
And she still would have been banned from the US if Barry had not done Vlad a solid and got her Visa Denial reversed.

 

[bripat9643]

New and devastating bombshells released almost every single day

REVEALED: Ex-Soviet intelligence officer attended meeting with Kushner and Trump Jr

So much for "we only talked about adoptions".

Just how stupid do you have to be to have believed that in the first place? Why would the top Trump campaign people have attended a meeting about Russian adoptions? Come on people. THINK! The Russians were clearly offering a quid pro quo to get a repeal of the Magnitsky Act.

When oh when will the Trumps stop lying?

The Russian government offered nothing because it had nothing to do with the meeting.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

How does that change the fact that the Trump campaign took the meeting and lied about it for months?

No information was passed.
No crime committed.
And she still would have been banned from the US if Barry had not done Vlad a solid and got her Visa Denial reversed.

You hold tight to that. You'll need it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

lol the Soviet intel agent there was probably the smartest guy in the room.

 

[easyt65]

How does that change the fact that the Trump campaign took the meeting and lied about it for months?

No information was passed.
No crime committed.
And she still would have been banned from the US if Barry had not done Vlad a solid and got her Visa Denial reversed.

You hold tight to that. You'll need it.

No problem...since the Lawyer has stated no information was passed or used, Trump Jr said so, EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE HAS SAID THIS....

...and you keep defending Barry, who was the ONLY one connected to Vlad, the Russian, govt, and this lawyer by way of stepping in to overturn her denial into the US...while she was Putin's #1 Rep to see the sanctions were overturned.

Barry gave her a special 'Parole' Visa, one rarely given out, one usually given out for 'Humanitarian emergency' reasons, according to his government. Isn't that 'special'....

 

[easyt65]

lol the Soviet intel agent there was probably the smartest guy in the room.

...definitely smarter than your posts have shown you to be.

 

[AntonToo]

How does that change the fact that the Trump campaign took the meeting and lied about it for months?

No information was passed.
No crime committed.
And she still would have been banned from the US if Barry had not done Vlad a solid and got her Visa Denial reversed.

You hold tight to that. You'll need it.

No problem...since the Lawyer has stated no information was passed or used, Trump Jr said so, EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE HAS SAID THIS....

That true, it's not like anyone in that room has any interest to conceal what was really discussed. lol

 

[easyt65]

That true, it's not like anyone in that room has any interest to conceal what was really discussed. lol

There is more interest in concealing Obama's connection to Putin, his stepping in to reverse the denial of a visa for this lawyer, Putin's lead rep on getting sanctions lifted. Now, DAMN, why would Barry do such a 'solid' for Vlad like that, and why would Hillary's lawyer be escorting this lawyer around? THOSE questions totally dwarf the hell out of a meeting in which no information was passed and no information was used.

And since the article stated Vlad's lawyer tried to meet with BOTH Trump and Hillary I am betting it can be proven that the lawyer did get 'access' to Hillary. Actually that has already been proven, as Hillary's lawyer was reportedly chaperoning this Russian lawyer around some. What information was passed on to Hillary via her lawyer?

As this story unravels, both Barry and Hillary are finding themselves deeper and deeper up to their ass in it....