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Bet you haven't either, but this thread is about the situation in Nauru. Should it be ignored and allowed to continue? Ignored and excused as you are doing?
Ex-Employee Leaks Details About Refugee Abuse On Nauru
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Fixing would mean not allowing the situation to continue as it is.
How am I "ignoring" it? I've stated the men should be locked up separately or better yet shipped back to their shithole country. Just because I've given you an answer you don't like, doesn't mean I have ignored anything. Why do you keep ignoring my response? theHawk XXXX -- Mod Edit 2nd instance of excessive personal profanity.
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Tilly
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Profound.
Ship them back to where they came from. The world is filling up with refugee centres and in a great many cases, they are economic migrants posing as refugees. Many of them don't come from war torn countries. Send all the fighting age men back to their countries to fight for them too. The genuine refugee women and children would then be taken better care of, and could be sent back to their countries when it is safer for them.
I can just see it now. If theHawk was in charge of Nauru, and I force segregated the men from the women and children, theHawk XXXX- 3rd instance of excessive personal flame Coyote would be howling about the inhumanity of it. The AP articles showing pictures of crying women and children being taken away from their dads and brothers. I'd be called a racist and abuser.
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First of all, we have many Americans in need. Some don't even have a roof over their head, including many veterans. We have to take care of our own first. Now the clintons and obamas act all pious and caring about these foreigners, cuz the money sure ain't coming out of their pockets and they sure as hell won't have any refugees living anywhere near them, guaranteed.
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I'm with the Australian gmnt on this:
...That all changed two years ago, when Mr Abbott won power and began to reintroduce many of the Howard-era policies, including the deployment of the Australian navy and customs officials to turn back boats. The result: the boats have stopped, lives have been saved, thousands have been released from immigration detention and smugglers have had to look elsewhere.
It also means that public confidence in our immigration programme has been restored — meaning most Australians have no qualms whatsoever about accepting 12,000 Syrian refugees over the coming weeks. When it comes to the resettlement of refugees, Australia leads the world on a per capita basis.
The conclusion from the Australian experience is that those who benefit most from tough border protection are the immigrants who come here fairly and legally. Strict controls help dampen down xenophobia, and ensure that decent treatment is given to those seeking the nation’s hospitality. If only you Poms had not surrendered your sovereignty to Brussels!
Turning back refugee boats saves lives - as Australia found out
...That all changed two years ago, when Mr Abbott won power and began to reintroduce many of the Howard-era policies, including the deployment of the Australian navy and customs officials to turn back boats. The result: the boats have stopped, lives have been saved, thousands have been released from immigration detention and smugglers have had to look elsewhere.
It also means that public confidence in our immigration programme has been restored — meaning most Australians have no qualms whatsoever about accepting 12,000 Syrian refugees over the coming weeks. When it comes to the resettlement of refugees, Australia leads the world on a per capita basis.
The conclusion from the Australian experience is that those who benefit most from tough border protection are the immigrants who come here fairly and legally. Strict controls help dampen down xenophobia, and ensure that decent treatment is given to those seeking the nation’s hospitality. If only you Poms had not surrendered your sovereignty to Brussels!
Turning back refugee boats saves lives - as Australia found out
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I agree. We have a homeless problem in Europe too, not to mention a health service that is falling apart and an education system that cannot cope.
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Why would you think anything as stupid as that dipshit? How do you think it's done in well run refugee centers?
They don't segregate men in any refugee camps that I know of in Germany. They've put them up in our old US Army barracks. There are sites that are male only, but it's a halfway house for "minors". The thing is the men lie about their age so they can get in. Then they abuse the workers there and complain they aren't doing enough for them.
What places have segregation of men from women?
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I don't have an issue with turning them back or sending them back some other way if the boats are too rickety. That is different then what is happening on Nauru.
Tilly
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There have been many incidences of 'refugees' burning down the centres when they don't like the rules. In many, the Muslim males are actually running them, and staff are so frightened that Dr's and nurses won't enter them, but have now set up medical facilities outside so they see one 'refugee' patient at a time, for their own safety.
I imagine there would be hell to pay if we tried to take the women and children - their victims - from them. In fact, the police in ?Sweden tried to rescue a 10 yr old who was allegedly being repeatedly raped, and they were attacked and FAILED to rescue the child.
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You may be right about that, I'm thinking more of prisons.
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I've made many comments about how I strongly support all child abusers and all rapists being executed, just take them out, force them onto their knees, put a bullet in the nape of their necks, put them in a hole and throw quicklime onto them.
It seems that some amoebas with diseased minds think that certain people are defending child abuse, isn't that correct Coyote?
So Coyote DO certain people DEFEND child abuse, come on, don't hold back, let's have your opinion, I'm sure you can provide links to all of the times certain people have defended child abuse, help your little pets here.
Of course Coyote hasn't the will to confine her diseased infested pets to the Ebola Tent.
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Rape and Paedophilia are every day occurrences in the refugee camps in Europe and elsewhere. The rapes go on inside and outside of the centres, but because the perps are muslm men, Coyote spends all her time desperately attempting to 'debunk' the claims and excusing the perps on the basis that they don't 'know' not to rape women and children. For some reason, only the Australian refugee centre is worthy of her criticism. Lol.
Four-year-old child refugee 'raped by Afghan man' at centre for asylum seekers in Germany
A four-year-old refugee has allegedly been raped by an Afghan man at a shelter for asylum seekers in Germany.
The Iraqi boy was living with his family among 600 other migrants at the centre in Boostedt, north of Hamburg, when he was assaulted.
His father told Kiel District Court his eight-year-old son raised the alarm on 29 March, saying his younger brother was in the toilet with a stranger.
When the man arrived he could see his son’s shoes next to those of an adult, shouting and trying to open the door before it was opened from the inside.
Number of child refugees crossing into Europe swells
He found his son and an old man with their trousers down, the Schleswig-Holsteinische Zeitungsverlag newspaper reported.
The father told the court he asked the man what he was doing with the boy, and was told he had been helping him go to the toilet...
Four-year-old refugee 'raped at German centre for asylum seekers'
Four-year-old child refugee 'raped by Afghan man' at centre for asylum seekers in Germany
A four-year-old refugee has allegedly been raped by an Afghan man at a shelter for asylum seekers in Germany.
The Iraqi boy was living with his family among 600 other migrants at the centre in Boostedt, north of Hamburg, when he was assaulted.
His father told Kiel District Court his eight-year-old son raised the alarm on 29 March, saying his younger brother was in the toilet with a stranger.
When the man arrived he could see his son’s shoes next to those of an adult, shouting and trying to open the door before it was opened from the inside.
Number of child refugees crossing into Europe swells
He found his son and an old man with their trousers down, the Schleswig-Holsteinische Zeitungsverlag newspaper reported.
The father told the court he asked the man what he was doing with the boy, and was told he had been helping him go to the toilet...
Four-year-old refugee 'raped at German centre for asylum seekers'
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I've made many comments about how I strongly support all child abusers and all rapists being executed, just take them out, force them onto their knees, put a bullet in the nape of their necks, put them in a hole and throw quicklime onto them.
It seems that some amoebas with diseased minds think that certain people are defending child abuse, isn't that correct Coyote?
So Coyote DO certain people DEFEND child abuse, come on, don't hold back, let's have your opinion, I'm sure you can provide links to all of the times certain people have defended child abuse, help your little pets here.
Of course Coyote hasn't the will to confine her diseased infested pets to the Ebola Tent.
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I have been accused of defending child abuse and rape here Lucy. From your pets here.
"It seems that some amoebas with diseased minds think that certain people are defending child abuse, isn't that correct Coyote?"
Yes, that is correct.
For the record, I've never seen you defend child abuse nor do I believe you would. I know you are a mother, and I know what that means to you. I would never imagine you ever defending child abuse.
What's going on in Nauru is way wrong. What's going on in other overcrowded refugee centers is way wrong. Rather than blaming religions (these centers house people from all religions and cultural backgrounds including those with ethnic/religious/cultural clashes). Perhaps what we should be focusing on is bringing this to light and finding a human solution so this doesn't occur. These are real people being injured.
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They're asylum seekers, meaning they aren't all economic migrants seeking "benefits". Some are fleeing persecution or restrictive regimes for example. Some are fleeing inter-ethnic conflicts, drought and starvation, failed states. I think they would have to have their cases taken up one by one.
But, there are extreme backlogs in the systems and they are very very understaffed. I believe the UN has said that we are at a record number of displaced people worldwide - EVER. That's staggering and frightening. I was listening to NPR, and they were doing a story about one of the Greek camps. Greece of course, is overwelmed by migrants because they've been stopped from going further.
They interviewed a young woman who was one of the handful of people managing the camp - all of them quite young, in their twenties! It's so poor-paying they can't find anyone else to do it. She was the go-to person for getting them help, supplies, shoes etc. They talked about how one of the most frequent requests from men was for shoes, even when she had recently given them shoes. What she found was they wore them out playing soccar - because they had nothing else to do. They couldn't work, they spent their days sleeping, waking up, playing football, waiting in lines trying to get an internet connection at the one place where they could apply for assylum, and - where there was only one worker taking applications. Because she often left very late at night, a group of men always walked her to the bus stop - and made sure she got on the bus safely when she left. You have a situation where you have a lot of men, crowded together - with nothing to do - nothing. Potential for violence, for suicide and self harm is very high. It's not like they know they'll be out in 3 weeks so they can endure. They have no idea and no outlets like work. I'm not trying to say be sympathetic - but rather that is the situation in places like Nauru as well, only add to it guards who are probably underpayed, inadequate in number and certainly not screened for abusive - all stuck on a tiny island with no outside help or accountability.
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What a disgusting excuse.
It is like the excuse some make in the IP forum when Jewish children are killed by stone throwing - that it's the fault of the parents because they shouldn't be living in occupied territory. It's the fault of the person who did it - and no one else.
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I've made many comments about how I strongly support all child abusers and all rapists being executed, just take them out, force them onto their knees, put a bullet in the nape of their necks, put them in a hole and throw quicklime onto them.
It seems that some amoebas with diseased minds think that certain people are defending child abuse, isn't that correct Coyote?
So Coyote DO certain people DEFEND child abuse, come on, don't hold back, let's have your opinion, I'm sure you can provide links to all of the times certain people have defended child abuse, help your little pets here.
Of course Coyote hasn't the will to confine her diseased infested pets to the Ebola Tent.
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I have been accused of defending child abuse and rape here Lucy. From your pets here.
"It seems that some amoebas with diseased minds think that certain people are defending child abuse, isn't that correct Coyote?"
Yes, that is correct.
For the record, I've never seen you defend child abuse nor do I believe you would. I know you are a mother, and I know what that means to you. I would never imagine you ever defending child abuse.
What's going on in Nauru is way wrong. What's going on in other overcrowded refugee centers is way wrong. Rather than blaming religions (these centers house people from all religions and cultural backgrounds including those with ethnic/religious/cultural clashes). Perhaps what we should be focusing on is bringing this to light and finding a human solution so this doesn't occur. These are real people being injured.
"I have been accused of defending child abuse and rape here Lucy. From your pets here."
The situation of you being accused of defending child abuse, it's possibly in the abstract sense.
What I mean those who defend Islam to a certain extent are ALL going to be accused of the same thing, this is because Mohammed was a paedophile and in Islamic society sex with pre-pubescent children is tolerated and for the reason that their Perfect Being ie. Mohammed was a paedophile himself.
"It seems that some amoebas with diseased minds think that certain people are defending child abuse, isn't that correct Coyote?"
Yes, that is correct.
For the record, I've never seen you defend child abuse nor do I believe you would. I know you are a mother, and I know what that means to you. I would never imagine you ever defending child abuse."
Thank you, I appreciate that you feel this and know that under no circumstances have I EVER defended child abuse.
"What's going on in Nauru is way wrong. What's going on in other overcrowded refugee centers is way wrong. Rather than blaming religions (these centers house people from all religions and cultural backgrounds including those with ethnic/religious/cultural clashes). Perhaps what we should be focusing on is bringing this to light and finding a human solution so this doesn't occur. These are real people being injured."
They all wouldn't be in this distressing situation if they'd have fled to more suitable environments, often the surrounding areas they're fleeing from are pretty safe, they should flee to those, if not they should be deported and those safe surrounding areas should be forced to take these people.
Of course it's ridiculous to throw together in confined quarters Sunni's, Shia's, Kurd's, Afghan's, Iraqi's and gazillions of African Tribesmen and not expect all sorts of trouble.
It also doesn't help that many of these men will **** anything that moves, be it another man, a woman, a child or a four-legged animal.
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