Evolution. Pfffft

[WinterBorn]

I'm not in any corner. You posted all those people's faces as one species, I posted 3 pics of butterflies that are distinct species. Migration is irrelevant. It was an answer to your "They look different but are the same species".

Funny how you think butterflies prove evolution when you can't answer migratory patterns nor their existence 120 million years ago.

I never claimed butterflies prove evolution. I simply showed you that animals that look alike can be different species. Something you were mocking when you posted all those people's faces.

Now, can you offer any evidence to support ID?

Your evidence of ID. Both of which defy any logical explanation in evolution in how humanity behaves at such things.
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How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

 

[WinterBorn]

You brought it. You claimed it was the better theory.

Wrong again. I said their are only two possible theories for the existence of life.

Oh? I'm familiar with multiple. Off the top of my head:
Panspermia,
Old Earth Creationism
Young Earth Creationism
Scientific Creationism
All other Creation myths/theories
Theistic Evolution
Abiogenesis

Not on the list is naturalistic or atheistic evolution because it doesn't discuss the existence of life, just what life did once it got here.

Like I said, topic is evolution of species into other species. Of which all evidence says does not occur in nature.

No it is not. Numerous times you have talked about "explosions" and how life did not come from molten lava. Those have nothing to do with species evolving into other species.

They have nothing to do with reality either, but certainly not with the topic of species evolving into other species.

So you too refuse to believe what children are being brainwashed into believing on how the universe and earth were created.

Once again, you lie about what I actually said. You have done that a lot in this thread.

No, I did not say anything about what I believe. I simply corrected your claim that the topic is evolution of one species into another. You have branched off that topic numerous times.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wrong again. I said their are only two possible theories for the existence of life.

Oh? I'm familiar with multiple. Off the top of my head:
Panspermia,
Old Earth Creationism
Young Earth Creationism
Scientific Creationism
All other Creation myths/theories
Theistic Evolution
Abiogenesis

Not on the list is naturalistic or atheistic evolution because it doesn't discuss the existence of life, just what life did once it got here.

Like I said, topic is evolution of species into other species. Of which all evidence says does not occur in nature.

No it is not. Numerous times you have talked about "explosions" and how life did not come from molten lava. Those have nothing to do with species evolving into other species.

They have nothing to do with reality either, but certainly not with the topic of species evolving into other species.

So you too refuse to believe what children are being brainwashed into believing on how the universe and earth were created.

Once again, you lie about what I actually said. You have done that a lot in this thread.

No, I did not say anything about what I believe. I simply corrected your claim that the topic is evolution of one species into another. You have branched off that topic numerous times.

You cannot unlink the creation of the earth as taught in public school and evolution of the creation of species as taught in public schools simply because it proves my point. The two remain distinctly intertwined.

It is pure BS that your ancestor was bacteria that came from a molten landscape.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Funny how you think butterflies prove evolution when you can't answer migratory patterns nor their existence 120 million years ago.

I never claimed butterflies prove evolution. I simply showed you that animals that look alike can be different species. Something you were mocking when you posted all those people's faces.

Now, can you offer any evidence to support ID?

Your evidence of ID. Both of which defy any logical explanation in evolution in how humanity behaves at such things.
View attachment 118130

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

 

[WinterBorn]

Oh? I'm familiar with multiple. Off the top of my head:
Panspermia,
Old Earth Creationism
Young Earth Creationism
Scientific Creationism
All other Creation myths/theories
Theistic Evolution
Abiogenesis

Not on the list is naturalistic or atheistic evolution because it doesn't discuss the existence of life, just what life did once it got here.

Like I said, topic is evolution of species into other species. Of which all evidence says does not occur in nature.

No it is not. Numerous times you have talked about "explosions" and how life did not come from molten lava. Those have nothing to do with species evolving into other species.

They have nothing to do with reality either, but certainly not with the topic of species evolving into other species.

So you too refuse to believe what children are being brainwashed into believing on how the universe and earth were created.

Once again, you lie about what I actually said. You have done that a lot in this thread.

No, I did not say anything about what I believe. I simply corrected your claim that the topic is evolution of one species into another. You have branched off that topic numerous times.

You cannot unlink the creation of the earth as taught in public school and evolution of the creation of species as taught in public schools simply because it proves my point. The two remain distinctly intertwined.

It is pure BS that your ancestor was bacteria that came from a molten landscape.
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So you were lying when you said the topic is strictly species evolving into another species? What a surprise.


Oh, and no scientific text, book, or paper has said life appeared in a "molten landscape". You invent little shit like that in an attempt to ridicule the Theory of Evolution. But it simply makes you look ignorant.

 

[WinterBorn]

I never claimed butterflies prove evolution. I simply showed you that animals that look alike can be different species. Something you were mocking when you posted all those people's faces.

Now, can you offer any evidence to support ID?

Your evidence of ID. Both of which defy any logical explanation in evolution in how humanity behaves at such things.
View attachment 118130

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

 

[WinterBorn]

I never claimed butterflies prove evolution. I simply showed you that animals that look alike can be different species. Something you were mocking when you posted all those people's faces.

Now, can you offer any evidence to support ID?

Your evidence of ID. Both of which defy any logical explanation in evolution in how humanity behaves at such things.
View attachment 118130

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

If anyone here is a robot, it is you. I am happy to entertain any evidence of ID, but you have provided none whatsoever.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Your evidence of ID. Both of which defy any logical explanation in evolution in how humanity behaves at such things.
View attachment 118130

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

If anyone here is a robot, it is you. I am happy to entertain any evidence of ID, but you have provided none whatsoever.

Like I said, start a thread on ID and it can be discussed there. This thread is about the absurdity of evolution of species being taught in public schools.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Your evidence of ID. Both of which defy any logical explanation in evolution in how humanity behaves at such things.
View attachment 118130

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

 

[idb]

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

Have you never seen Youtube videos of animals being freed or let outside after years of confinement?
Joy is obvious.

 

[WinterBorn]

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

If anyone here is a robot, it is you. I am happy to entertain any evidence of ID, but you have provided none whatsoever.

Like I said, start a thread on ID and it can be discussed there. This thread is about the absurdity of evolution of species being taught in public schools.

I am just continuing the line of discussion that you, the OP, started.

 

[WinterBorn]

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

 

[WinterBorn]

How humans have emotional reactions to sights and sounds? It could be explained by cultural teachings and experiences.

It is also not exclusive to humans.

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

If anyone here is a robot, it is you. I am happy to entertain any evidence of ID, but you have provided none whatsoever.

Like I said, start a thread on ID and it can be discussed there. This thread is about the absurdity of evolution of species being taught in public schools.

So you say. But you have also said ID is a better explanation. YOu are the one who brought it up. Now, after being cornered, you want to remove it?? lol

And if you are going to talk about the absurdity of teaching evolution of species in school, you may as well leave out the talk of explosions or of molten lava becoming Beethoven. They are not the same thing.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wrong again. Every culture on earth appreciates music and a good sunset.
Next time you see a bunch of animals stop and stare at a sunset or gather around to play Mozart, you let us know.

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

 

[WinterBorn]

I have seen animals respond emotionally or get excited at certain sights and sounds. Pavlov even proved that.

Animals will react emotionally to the sight of their owners or even other humans or animals that they love. Sounds can produce reactions in many animals.

That proves nothing.

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

I know plenty of people who are not interested in beauty or art. Your ideas of good & evil are not the same as other people's ideas of good and evil.

You are welcome to claim we are set aside. I simply see that we are more evolved. The fossil record shows many intermediate steps between us and our common ancestors.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Animals react to people or sounds because they are going to get fed or sense danger.

Like I said, you refuse to look at any evidence outside of the box they put you inside of. You are just a programmed robot.

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

I know plenty of people who are not interested in beauty or art. Your ideas of good & evil are not the same as other people's ideas of good and evil.

You are welcome to claim we are set aside. I simply see that we are more evolved. The fossil record shows many intermediate steps between us and our common ancestors.

We have three fossils in this thread. 6, 66 and 120 million years. All looking like their kin today.

And I know a thing or two about animals. Horses, dogs, sheep, chickens, all sitting around my property right now, so don't try to BS me about animals

 

[WinterBorn]

People react to people or sounds when they are going to be fed or sense danger too. That is not the only time they react to sights or sounds.

And guess what? That is not the only time animals respond to sights and sounds. My dog responds with a great emotional display when he sees me. He does the same when our other dog comes home after being gone over the weekend. They see something that brings them joy and they respond.

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

I know plenty of people who are not interested in beauty or art. Your ideas of good & evil are not the same as other people's ideas of good and evil.

You are welcome to claim we are set aside. I simply see that we are more evolved. The fossil record shows many intermediate steps between us and our common ancestors.

We have three fossils in this thread. 6, 66 and 120 million years. All looking like their kin today.

And I know a thing or two about animals. Horses, dogs, sheep, chickens, all sitting around my property right now, so don't try to BS me about animals

You have 3 fossils that resemble each other on the surface and without examination of a living creature.

If you have animals, especially horses and dogs, then you should know they form emotional bonds to people and to other animals. I am not bullshitting you at all. Especially since there are plenty of documented examples of animals grieving themselves to death after losing a loved one.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I give your dog a steak and guess who he is seeing first next time.

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

I know plenty of people who are not interested in beauty or art. Your ideas of good & evil are not the same as other people's ideas of good and evil.

You are welcome to claim we are set aside. I simply see that we are more evolved. The fossil record shows many intermediate steps between us and our common ancestors.

We have three fossils in this thread. 6, 66 and 120 million years. All looking like their kin today.

And I know a thing or two about animals. Horses, dogs, sheep, chickens, all sitting around my property right now, so don't try to BS me about animals

You have 3 fossils that resemble each other on the surface and without examination of a living creature.

If you have animals, especially horses and dogs, then you should know they form emotional bonds to people and to other animals. I am not bullshitting you at all. Especially since there are plenty of documented examples of animals grieving themselves to death after losing a loved one.

I can pull out another hundred fossil photos that you can identify with creatures around today, so you are going nowhere fast. Your argument that they reached some pinnacle of evolution or they are different somehow are just pure desperation to make things conform to your programed world.

Chew on this for awhile, I took the pic a few months ago. It's dated to around 1,000AD by the "experts"

 

[WinterBorn]

When I have been gone for a week or so, he would come to me dancing and ignore you holding the steak.

Animals respond with great emotion, whether there is food offered or not. To deny that is ridiculous.

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

I know plenty of people who are not interested in beauty or art. Your ideas of good & evil are not the same as other people's ideas of good and evil.

You are welcome to claim we are set aside. I simply see that we are more evolved. The fossil record shows many intermediate steps between us and our common ancestors.

We have three fossils in this thread. 6, 66 and 120 million years. All looking like their kin today.

And I know a thing or two about animals. Horses, dogs, sheep, chickens, all sitting around my property right now, so don't try to BS me about animals

You have 3 fossils that resemble each other on the surface and without examination of a living creature.

If you have animals, especially horses and dogs, then you should know they form emotional bonds to people and to other animals. I am not bullshitting you at all. Especially since there are plenty of documented examples of animals grieving themselves to death after losing a loved one.

I can pull out another hundred fossil photos that you can identify with creatures around today, so you are going nowhere fast. Your argument that they reached some pinnacle of evolution or they are different somehow are just pure desperation to make things conform to your programed world.

Chew on this for awhile, I took the pic a few months ago. It's dated to around 1,000AD by the "experts"
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Yes, you can show that not all animals evolved, or evolved where their external features are concerned. That proves nothing, per se.

I have not said anything about a "pinnacle of evolution". But its nice to see you are consistent with your lies.

No idea what the pic is supposed to show.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Animals have no interest in beauty, arts, or good and evil simply because people are set aside from animals and are not our ancestors.

I know plenty of people who are not interested in beauty or art. Your ideas of good & evil are not the same as other people's ideas of good and evil.

You are welcome to claim we are set aside. I simply see that we are more evolved. The fossil record shows many intermediate steps between us and our common ancestors.

We have three fossils in this thread. 6, 66 and 120 million years. All looking like their kin today.

And I know a thing or two about animals. Horses, dogs, sheep, chickens, all sitting around my property right now, so don't try to BS me about animals

You have 3 fossils that resemble each other on the surface and without examination of a living creature.

If you have animals, especially horses and dogs, then you should know they form emotional bonds to people and to other animals. I am not bullshitting you at all. Especially since there are plenty of documented examples of animals grieving themselves to death after losing a loved one.

I can pull out another hundred fossil photos that you can identify with creatures around today, so you are going nowhere fast. Your argument that they reached some pinnacle of evolution or they are different somehow are just pure desperation to make things conform to your programed world.

Chew on this for awhile, I took the pic a few months ago. It's dated to around 1,000AD by the "experts"
View attachment 118226

Yes, you can show that not all animals evolved, or evolved where their external features are concerned. That proves nothing, per se.

I have not said anything about a "pinnacle of evolution". But its nice to see you are consistent with your lies.

No idea what the pic is supposed to show.

And in all this I have yet to see 1 example for the case of evolution.
And it was another poster who claimed that, my apology.