Zone1 Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America

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"...Religious ideas were also influential. Most conspicuous are the references to a “Creator,” “Nature’s God,” “divine Providence,” and the “Supreme Judge of the world” in the Declaration of Independence. Hall notes examples of “Christian ideas” with significant influence on the Founding:

1. The belief that “humans were sinful” contributed to the adoption of “a constitutional system characterized by separated powers, checks and balances, and federalism,” rather than “a strong, centralized government run by experts.”
2. An understanding of “liberty” as “the freedom to do what is morally correct.”
3. The belief that humans are created in the image of God, which “led them to conclude that we the people (as opposed to the elite) can order our public lives together through politics rather than force. It also helped inform early (and later) American opposition to slavery.”
4. The need to protect religious freedom and, eventually, to drop support for established religions “primarily because they thought that such establishments hurt true religion.”

By design, the new U.S. government was not “religious” in the sense of requiring allegiance to any particular faith. It was, rather, dedicated to a comprehensive protection of the religious exercise of all its citizens. The Framers knew by experience that this protection would allow people of faith to continue to exercise the powerful influence that had created the free nation."

The religious ideas that helped foment the American Revolution - Sutherland Institute

We have noted ways in which religious ideas and people of faith helped shape the freedoms of the United States. All of this, however, would have been moot if there were no United States in the first place. Religious teachings and religious individuals were critical in this respect as well.

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"...In the early 17th century, the Great Awakening spurred many Colonists to believe that the most important relationship in faith was between God and the individual and that no government should be given authority over that relationship. Many colonial clergymen were known to give sermons insisting that fighting against tyranny was the duty of Christian people..."

A Religious Revolution: American Independence and the Birth of the Protestant Episcopal Church - St. Luke's Historic Church & Museum | Blog

The 16th and 17th centuries saw horrific conflicts spawned by the religious disputes known as the Reformation. By the 18th century, these conflicts switched to disputes of a more economic and political nature. Most of us don’t think of the American Revolution as a religious conflict and yet...

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"...In the early 17th century, the Great Awakening spurred many Colonists to believe that the most important relationship in faith was between God and the individual and that no government should be given authority over that relationship.

the repudiation of judaism their false commandments, heredity idolatry in the 1st century by jesus and those that gave their lives for the true heavenly beliefs from the beginning of time the religion of antiquity is in fact the reenactment made in the 17th century against the prevail christian religion and its affiliation with the gov'ts that together persecuted and victimized the innocent ....

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ....

the 1st sentence, the 1st amendment of the u s constitution is the establishment that no religion would ever encroach again on the daily lives of a free society - despised by all three desert religions and their inability to pervasively have their will administered by government officials.

 

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Prior to and during the American Revolution, American colonists of the 1700s intensely debated and discussed whether it was biblical to defend their rights and freedoms and go to war with Britain. Those who opposed revolution were called “loyalists” or “Tories” of King George III and Britain. Those who supported revolution were often called “patriots” or “Whigs” after the pro-reform political party in England.

The Bible was often at the center of colonists’ discussions, sermons, and political writings regarding revolution. In addition, many widely-read historical and religious writings published prior to this period (including pseudonymed Stephen Junius Brutus’s 1579 Vindiciae Contra Tyrannos (A Defense of Liberty Against Tyrants) and John Locke’s 1689 Second Treatise on Civil Government) supported the principles of right of resistance tyranny, natural rights, and popular sovereignty in American political thought based on the Bible. The Bible and Judeo-Christian ideas had such a strong influence on the American Revolution that some loyalists referred to the war as the “Presbyterian Rebellion.”

https://americanheritage.org/the-influence-of-the-bible-on-the-founding-era-the-presbyterian-rebellion/

 

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Prior to and during the American Revolution, American colonists of the 1700s intensely debated and discussed whether it was biblical to defend their rights and freedoms and go to war with Britain. Those who opposed revolution were called “loyalists” or “Tories” of King George III and Britain. Those who supported revolution were often called “patriots” or “Whigs” after the pro-reform political party in England.

The Bible was often at the center of colonists’ discussions, sermons, and political writings regarding revolution. In addition, many widely-read historical and religious writings published prior to this period (including pseudonymed Stephen Junius Brutus’s 1579 Vindiciae Contra Tyrannos (A Defense of Liberty Against Tyrants) and John Locke’s 1689 Second Treatise on Civil Government) supported the principles of right of resistance tyranny, natural rights, and popular sovereignty in American political thought based on the Bible. The Bible and Judeo-Christian ideas had such a strong influence on the American Revolution that some loyalists referred to the war as the “Presbyterian Rebellion.”

https://americanheritage.org/the-influence-of-the-bible-on-the-founding-era-the-presbyterian-rebellion/

John Locke’s 1689 Second Treatise on Civil Government) supported the principles of right of resistance tyranny, natural rights, and popular sovereignty in American political thought based on the Bible.

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i. What's wrong with Christianity 210811 {post•6}. ding Aug’21 wwwcz: Christianity gave us America. Aug 11, 2021. dvng 210811 Swwwcz00006

ii. Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America. 241011 {post•84}. ding Oct’24 Seortb posts info : •€• https://americanheritage.org/the-in...-the-founding-era-the-presbyterian-rebellion/. John Locke’s 1689 Second Treatise on Civil Government) supported the principles of right of resistance to tyranny, natural rights, and popular sovereignty in American political thought based on the Bible. dvng 241011 Seortb00084

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NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb posted info: •€•. Locke on Religious Toleration by Mark Goldie | Online Library of Liberty

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Locke’s liberalism is not, however, the same as modern secular liberalism. His 1689 Letter can surprise and disconcert by the apparently limited basis and extent of its tolerance. It is not just that Locke excludes Roman Catholics and atheists from tolerance, but also that his very premises are rooted in Christian evangelism.​

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NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb posted info: •€•. The Separation of Church and State in the United States. Steven K. Green
The Separation of Church and State in the United States.

A final Whig writer particularly influential among many Founding Fathers was theorist James Burgh, author of Political Disquietations and Crito. Like other radical Whigs, Burgh spoke out against religious establishments, warning of “a church getting too much power into her hands, and turning religion into a mere state engine.” •¥•. In Crito, Burgh called for building “an impenetrable wall of separation between things sacred and civil,” the likely source for Jefferson’s famous 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists where he uses the same metaphor. Burgh’s fans and subscribers also included George Washington, John Adams, John Hancock, John Dickinson, Benjamin Rush, Roger Sherman, and James Wilson, a veritable “who’s who” of the founding generation. •¥¥•​

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NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb posted info: •€•. The Relevance of Thomas Jefferson. Library : The Relevance of Thomas Jefferson. by Donald J. D'Elia

None of these Enlightenment thinkers, whom Jefferson saw as personifying his naive faith in empirical science, could offer him a deeper view of man as spiritual person. They were modern, Protestant writers whose understanding of the philosophy and civilization of the Middle Ages was tenuous at best. So far was John Locke from the medieval Catholic appreciation of man as made in the image of God, as a spiritual person with all the implications for private and social life, that his empiricism led him in his political and ethical theory to reduce man to a kind of atom in mere combination with others (social compact theory)—led him, accordingly, to neglect a serious analysis of the concept of the common good, and to suggest a crude hedonistic utilitarianism.​

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NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb:. Saint Ding in paragraph ii. furthers the truth that it was Jeffersonian enlightenment philosophy through a rational theistic nonHOLYBIBLED unique evolved humanistic American thinking process led by Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine; (America’s anti-popery thomases) are among those of whom who TRULY gave us America through a process of rational thinking beyond The Body of Christ / Catholic Church Dogma and all it’s successive Holy Bible Sects.

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Prior to and during the American Revolution, American colonists of the 1700s intensely debated and discussed whether it was biblical to defend their rights and freedoms and go to war with Britain.

those europeans of the 17th century were not as during the time of jesus fleeing only the prevailing gov't, rome ...

rather also in the 17th century the prevailing biblical religious institutions, christianity terrorizing the citizenry by the brutality and persecution of the innocent.

no new world citizens affiliated their religious beliefs w/ european christianity being their own endurance for choosing the new land they were living in for the very purpose to flee religious tyranny -

the tyranny of liars and deceivers - bing the crucifier.

 

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Some loyalists referred to the revolution as a “Presbyterian Rebellion” after the Presbyterian church movement that came out of the Protestant Reformation. (The Presbyterians, as it were, governed their churches by a group of equal, elected leaders and representative courts.) While patriot colonists in the thirteen colonies comprised many different religious sects, some loyalists referred to the war as Presbyterian with a focus on the Presbyterian churches in New England where the Boston Tea Party occurred. The New England Presbyterians, along with many other religious groups in America, espoused the ideas of political resistance and popular sovereignty, of European religious and political reformers. Many such colonists, for example, favored the people’s right of resistance and religious tolerance, and they opposed the Divine Right of Kings and absolute rule.

As such, one loyalist, Rev. William Jones, told the British government in 1776 that the revolution was instigated by Presbyterians who were “Calvinists by profession, and Republicans in their politics” and that “this has been a Presbyterian war from the beginning.” Another loyalist in New York wrote in 1774 about the Presbyterians, “I fix all the blame for these extraordinary American proceedings upon them. Believe me, the Presbyterians have been the chief and principle instruments in all these flaming measures.”

https://americanheritage.org/the-influence-of-the-bible-on-the-founding-era-the-presbyterian-rebellion/

 

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James Caldwell at the Battle of Springfield by Henry Alexander Ogden. Caldwell was a Presbyterian minister who played a significant role in the American Revolution.

 

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American Founder John Adams later in 1821 reflected on and affirmed the influence of Reformed Christian political thought on the American Founding, writing in a letter,

I love and revere the memories of Huss, Wycliffe, Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Melanchthon, and all other reformers, how much so ever I may differ from them all in many theological, metaphysical, & philosophical points. As you justly observe, without their great exertions & severe sufferings, the USA had never existed.

 

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NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb: In reference to paragraph i. Let us see if Saint Ding will be able to explain in his own words why it took 1691 years for Saint Ding’s Bible Thumping Locke to figure out that Christians were living under biblically condoned tyranny; but that, and however, Christians get a new reality that Christians had a right to break the yoke of Christian mind control and tyranny off their necks.

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Whether rightly or wrongly applied, the political principles of the American Revolution were, as Gary T. Amos observes in his Defending the Declaration: How the Bible and Christianity Influenced the Writing of the Declaration of Independence, “an inheritance left to colonial Americans by earlier generations of Christian writers.” These principles included the people’s right of resistance, natural rights, and popular sovereignty as opposed to the Divine Right of Kings and absolute rule. This heritage of Western political thought had developed over centuries and laid the groundwork for the American Revolution and the founding of the new nation of the United States.

 

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James Caldwell at the Battle of Springfield by Henry Alexander Ogden. Caldwell was a Presbyterian minister who played a significant role in the American Revolution.

good for him and the horse city rating on same thing.

He didn’t get his way with the Deists/Rational theists after the war was won.

 

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The “Great Awakening,” the Christian evangelical revival that took place in colonial America in the mid-1700s, had political undercurrents that notably affected American society prior to the American Revolution. The revival impacted Americans’ views and values with regard to personal and national identity, unity, democratic equality, and civil freedom.

 

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Moreover, the Revivalists’ quest for spiritual liberty benefited the American move toward civil liberty and democracy. For Revivalists used terms in public discussion such as liberty, freedom, virtue, tyranny, bondage, and slavery with regard to spiritual freedom from sin through Christ. Such terms were based on the Bible including Galatians 5:1 where the Apostle Paul says to believers, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage” and John 8:36 where the Apostle John says, “If the Son [Christ] makes you free, you shall be free indeed.” These terms were then applied by Americans to the concept of political freedom prior to and during the American Revolution. “It was easy, when the tyrant became Parliament rather than sin,” say Noll et al, “to make fruitful use of the capital which these terms had acquired in the revival.”[5] These liberty themes, they say, “undergirded the struggle for American independence from Great Britain and the spirit of independence, and led to a belief that if the Revolution was grounded in the Awakening, then it must also be a work of God.”[6]

 

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Indeed, the Great Awakening and the American Revolution—considered by historians to be the two most significant events in America in the 1700s—had important connections. Revival was, some historians argue, the primary influence in the revolution. It provided much of the philosophical, religious, and moral justification for the war. Indeed, the revolution, they say, could not have occurred without the Awakening’s religious belief and thought. The revolution was, as Paul Johnson asserts in his History of the American People, a religious event in its origins, a fact that would shape it “from start to finish and determine the nature of the independent state it brought into being.” The revival, he elaborates, was the “proto-revolutionary event, the formative event preceding the political drive for independence and making it possible.”[7] It helped to prepare colonists for the forming of a new kind of Christian nation.

 

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It helped to prepare colonists for the forming of a new kind of Christian nation.

The American Revolutionary War did not produce a Christian nation.

And it’s a good thing that our rational theists rejected all the superstitions and myths in the Holy Bible and produced a nation for tolerance of all religions, no religion and including Holy Bible worshiping Christians like Jenna Ellis.

The constitutional kawyer , Jenna Ellis, who pledd guilty to crimes committed while she was a lawyer working for Donald J Trump, who tried to overturn an election so he could stay in power and keep his base of white Christian nationalists pleased that they could put an end to separation of church and state and end the rights of Americans to vote against a rrligious authoritarian political system that has become the Republican Party .

 

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The Bible and Christianity significantly influenced the writing of the Declaration of Independence by providing the foundational concepts of natural rights, equality among humans, the idea of a "Creator" as the source of these rights, and the notion of government based on the consent of the governed, which are all reflected in the document's language and core principles; essentially, the Founding Fathers drew upon biblical ideas to justify their revolutionary actions against British rule by appealing to a higher power and inherent human dignity.

 

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"Laws of Nature and of Nature's God":
This phrase prominently featured in the Declaration is seen as a direct reference to the Christian belief in a God who established natural laws governing human behavior and rights.

 

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Concept of "Creator":
The Declaration repeatedly mentions a "Creator" as the source of human rights, aligning with the Christian belief in God as the ultimate creator of all people.