Everybody who quoted Clapper saying he cleared Trump, post your apology here.

[bripat9643]

Sater is an American, you ******* dumbass, and Trump made a business deal with him 14 years ago, so the emoluments clause wouldn't apply..

I wasn't talking about Sater. I'm talking about Dmitry Rybolovlev

The guy bought a property from Trump. Since when is that a crime?

No one suggested a crime. The sale requires investigation only because the purchase price was $30 mil more than Trump paid for it only four years prior. Someone needs to explain that appreciation.

Why would anyone need to explain a deal that went down 9 years ago? Are you actually implying that Trump was "colluding" with the Russians back then?

Only you suggested that, dope.

How does a home appreciate that much in that time frame?

It doesn't. That buyer grossly overpaid.

Why?

Money laundering?
Payoff?

It does if you get a good deal on it. Just check out how the value of Mar-a-Lago has appreciated since Trump bought it. He's good at finding good deals.

 

[radical right]

Why would anyone need to explain a deal that went down 9 years ago? Are you actually implying that Trump was "colluding" with the Russians back then?

Trump paid $41.35 million for the property, and four years later he made a more than 100 percent profit by selling it to Rybolovlev. for $100 million.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Where he was born was never the topic. Why dont you see business with Russian mobsters with direct ties to Russia as being Ok? And not a tie?

He's not Russian, douche bag. He's American, and where is the evidence that he's a "Russian mobster?" What "direct ties to Russia" are you referring to?

You're getting ahead of yourself. First I just proved he has ties with Sater who he said he didn't have ties with. If you acknowledge that only then can you attempt to move to the next lesson.

Did I just show you with a picture of Trump and a picture of a Trump card with Sayers name on it as being a connection?

He signed a business deal with the guy. That's all the ties he has. I know people who have broken the law. Does that mean I have "ties" to them? This whole "ties" meme is utterly meaningless. It's the six degrees to Kevin Bacon theory. Only buffoons like you subscribe to it.

So again, if I just showed you a business card, a business deal and a picture with the guy is that considered a business tie or not?

Because now it seems you are attempting to set the stage to say that ties with Russians are OK for a reason you haven't come up with yet...

What crime did Trump commit? If you don't recall, Obama also had some ties with "bad guys," like William Ayers, a known terrorist, and you numskulls had no problem with that.

First have I established Trump's business ties with Russians or not? If not then any attempt at proving any crimes may exist would be pointless if you don't accept that fact.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.

Then you are admitting that you don't know of any evidence. Why do you keep pretending there is evidence?

Says the guy pretending there isn't.

I never said there was, dope.

I only said there's no way for you to know there isn't.

I'm not pretending. If I was then you could list the evidence.

I suppose if it were over and publicly available, yes. If your dumbass can't grasp that your own argument applies equally to yourself then you've only proven yourself to be retarded.

How does it apply to me? I'm not the one claiming there is evidence that doesn't exist.

Perpetual retard.

How does it apply to me? I'm not the one claiming there is evidence that doesn't exist.

I've never claimed it did.
It works both ways.
Without a public disclosure, neither point is valid, dope.

 

[bripat9643]

He's not Russian, douche bag. He's American, and where is the evidence that he's a "Russian mobster?" What "direct ties to Russia" are you referring to?

You're getting ahead of yourself. First I just proved he has ties with Sater who he said he didn't have ties with. If you acknowledge that only then can you attempt to move to the next lesson.

Did I just show you with a picture of Trump and a picture of a Trump card with Sayers name on it as being a connection?

He signed a business deal with the guy. That's all the ties he has. I know people who have broken the law. Does that mean I have "ties" to them? This whole "ties" meme is utterly meaningless. It's the six degrees to Kevin Bacon theory. Only buffoons like you subscribe to it.

So again, if I just showed you a business card, a business deal and a picture with the guy is that considered a business tie or not?

Because now it seems you are attempting to set the stage to say that ties with Russians are OK for a reason you haven't come up with yet...

What crime did Trump commit? If you don't recall, Obama also had some ties with "bad guys," like William Ayers, a known terrorist, and you numskulls had no problem with that.

First have I established Trump's business ties with Russians or not? If not then any attempt at proving any crimes may exist would be pointless if you don't accept that fact.

You haven't established jack shit other than the fact the Trump sold one of his properties to the highest bidder.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I wasn't talking about Sater. I'm talking about Dmitry Rybolovlev

The guy bought a property from Trump. Since when is that a crime?

No one suggested a crime. The sale requires investigation only because the purchase price was $30 mil more than Trump paid for it only four years prior. Someone needs to explain that appreciation.

Why would anyone need to explain a deal that went down 9 years ago? Are you actually implying that Trump was "colluding" with the Russians back then?

Only you suggested that, dope.

How does a home appreciate that much in that time frame?

It doesn't. That buyer grossly overpaid.

Why?

Money laundering?
Payoff?

It does if you get a good deal on it. Just check out how the value of Mar-a-Lago has appreciated since Trump bought it. He's good at finding good deals.

Bullshit.
You are aware that real estate transactions are public record, right?
There is absolutely nothing that could be done to any property that was purchased at fair market value that would warrant a 50% increase in value in four years.

 

[radical right]

There is absolutely nothing that could be done to any property that was purchased at fair market value that would warrant a 50% increase in value in four years.

Trump paid $41.35 million for the property, and four years later he made a more than 100 percent profit by selling it to Rybolovlev. for $100 million.

Five years after the sale, Palm Beach County appraised the house for just $59.8 million.

 

[Crixus]

For the longest people have quoted Clapper saying he had no evidence of Russian collusion, have to realize as DNI he was out of the loop when it came to DOJ and FBI domestic investigations.

Everybody who claimed that Clapper would know anything about the investigation can post their apologies here.

Nope. He ain't changed his story and your still wrong about who is under investigation and for what.

Nope. He ain't changed his story and your still wrong about who is under investigation and for what.

Dope.

Clapper on FBI Probe: ‘I Don’t Know If There Was Collusion’

Who you calling a dope ? You keep banging on with that georg noory crap.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You're getting ahead of yourself. First I just proved he has ties with Sater who he said he didn't have ties with. If you acknowledge that only then can you attempt to move to the next lesson.

Did I just show you with a picture of Trump and a picture of a Trump card with Sayers name on it as being a connection?

He signed a business deal with the guy. That's all the ties he has. I know people who have broken the law. Does that mean I have "ties" to them? This whole "ties" meme is utterly meaningless. It's the six degrees to Kevin Bacon theory. Only buffoons like you subscribe to it.

So again, if I just showed you a business card, a business deal and a picture with the guy is that considered a business tie or not?

Because now it seems you are attempting to set the stage to say that ties with Russians are OK for a reason you haven't come up with yet...

What crime did Trump commit? If you don't recall, Obama also had some ties with "bad guys," like William Ayers, a known terrorist, and you numskulls had no problem with that.

First have I established Trump's business ties with Russians or not? If not then any attempt at proving any crimes may exist would be pointless if you don't accept that fact.

You haven't established jack shit other than the fact the Trump sold one of his properties to the highest bidder.

Ok, since I didn't even mention the selling of properties youre already coping to another business dealing besides the development contract with Bay Rock. Once i have your answer we can move on. Yes or no. Have I established a Russian business connection eith Felix Sater or not?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

For the longest people have quoted Clapper saying he had no evidence of Russian collusion, have to realize as DNI he was out of the loop when it came to DOJ and FBI domestic investigations.

Everybody who claimed that Clapper would know anything about the investigation can post their apologies here.

Nope. He ain't changed his story and your still wrong about who is under investigation and for what.

Nope. He ain't changed his story and your still wrong about who is under investigation and for what.

Dope.

Clapper on FBI Probe: ‘I Don’t Know If There Was Collusion’

Who you calling a dope ? You keep banging on with that georg noory crap.

Who you calling a dope ? You keep banging on with that georg noory crap.

Well, since I responded to you specifically, the answer is clear.

 

[EverCurious]

uhm... just to add this in here, rich people /regularly/ overpay for "unique" items. Its in the same wheel house as collectors items and auctions; product value is determined by the purchasers desire for it.

To example, my parents decided they wanted a house in a small gated golf community. The market prices in the area were in the $1M ball park. The house they really wanted was priced at $1.2, but they ultimately paid $1.5 because another buyer was also interested in the house and they got into a bidding war. It happens /all/ the time, at every level of real estate. The median listing price for Mesquite, NV is $240k, says jack shit about the price of a house in the exclusive Calais community; who else can say they live in the same neighborhood as the owner of M&Ms? And as the sales prices dictate, rich people are willing to /pay/ a lot just to be able to say that. (Trust me, I swear to God every neighbor I met first time I visited asked, at least once, if I'd seen their house up the street - they are apparently all enthralled with the custom iron gates heh)

Lets dig a bit further. Here's a property on the street selling for $1.2M - 506 Calais Dr, Mesquite, NV 89027 - realtor.com®

Do be sure to eyeball the /tax assessed/ values of the home listed at the bottom there. Presently this house sits at $361K Why? Because, as the site informs; "Property tax information is based on property taxes assessed in the most recent year and does not take into account any increases or decreases that may occur as the result of a change of ownership." Property taxes do /not/ reflect the /market/ value of a home, you can also see that in the "nearby home values" section, based on "recent sales."

Lets dig even a bit further here though, because its clear you folks don't understand real estate. Here's another home for sale in Calais for $1.2M - 1050 Falcon Nest Ct, Mesquite, NV 89027 | MLS #1117407 | Zillow (Had to switch to Zillow for this one)

This property is 3bed, 4bath, 4,687sqft on 0.67 acres vs 506 Calais which is a 3bed, 3 1/2bath, 4,521sqft home on 0.4 acres. You'd think that 1050 Falcon Nest would be worth more, it's slightly bigger, has a bigger lot, has a full 4th bath instead of a half, it's custom and, hell this house has a putting green in it's yard, AND it's closer to the M&M folks oooo Yet they are the same price...

There's a few reasons this place is cheaper in the eyes of the elite that will make little sense to "regular" folks; The biggest tag against it is that it doesn't have a Calais address so it loses major prestige points (If you go down to the casino/bar and they check your ID and see your address is "Calais Drive" [or any exclusive neighborhood] you're going to be appreciated in a... certain way, and if you hang out enough, you'll notice a lot of folks drop their ID rather than "checking in" vocally. They want the host to know where they live because that gets us better tables, better service, and saves us from most embarrassments when we're hosting guests ourselves. AKA they act like we're regulars and special to the place.)

2) it's also oddly about 'over' customization, the wrought iron front door on 1050, while beautiful, is too 'unique to tastes' too pretty to remove and replace, but it also seriously limits your personal style inside (unless you want to clash like a dumb-ass) and that leads to 3) That ******* kitchen... Their designer should be strung up for such a harsh assault to the ambiance transition! [No, I am not kidding.] Finally there is the most important bit 4) "random details". [See below if interested - its a long read lol]

Spoiler: Why luxury home prices vary so much even when they seem practically the same; I went a bit overboard heh

1050 Falcon Nest:

Hey just for fun, and so the influences on home prices make a bit more sense, I'll go through these properties: ~Channels inner snobby ***** and views picture one for 1050 Falcon Nest~ While I do appreciate the separate golf cart garage (as opposed to just having a smaller garage door pointed awkwardly out the side) I must say the flow is... concerning. Entering this house the grand entry isn't even viewable... is it on the right or the left? How will our guests know? Shall I install a neon arrow so they do not accidentally pick the wrong side? ~flips to picture 2~ What the ****?!? You're trying to trick me?? What the hell was that first picture of? Wait... Wait... Wait... Are you ******* telling me that the first thing folks see from the street is the casita? uhm... I think ******* not... but lets continue... ~pic three~ Da ****?!? DUDE back yard now? Okay, I'll give you points for attempting to hide the flaws in their view, but that just ain't good enough man... ~pic four~ Oh see now this is nice, why the hell is this hid behind the casita man? That door... uhm, oh is that a courtyard? ~pic 5~ Hmmm okay courtyard in the front... not too sure about that but... is that a second casita?! I do like that. ~pic 6~ Alright you've won me back with the 2 casita's and it looks like that's actually a /double/ golf cart garage. ~pic 7~ Oh... that's not a courtyard okay, minor detail, I do like the door though... dude, why do you have rough log posts next to that beautiful door - what are you a lumber jack? ~pic 8 & 9~ Very nice! ~pic 10 & 11~ What the **** is this monstrosity of a country kitchen! ****... I'd have to replace all the cabinets and custom panels for that fridge... very nice though, what's that a six foot Wolf? (ah subzero, w/e they make Wolf as well) I tell ya, I can fit a lot of party trays in there so maybe redoing the kitchen isn't so bad. ~pic 12 & 13~ Dude! What's with the unfinished timber shit. No ******* class here... I guess I can have them fluted... Nice patio off here, beautiful raised fireplace and the bar is nice if a bit hard to get behind from the looks of it ~pic 14~ ~screams~ DEAD THINGS! You idiot, take that shit down, I could have had a heart attack. (fake liberal tears) Meh Office/den/man cave. This has nothing to do with me Sir, and you know I make the decision, why did you put this at the front and waste my time? ~pic 15~ and back to the great room... stop confusing me. What a dismal view for lunch bleh ~pic 16, 17, & 18~ Okay more kitchen stuff check - god those cabinets are awful... ~Pic 19~ acceptable guest room, looks to be a king with plenty of room for comforts and a bathroom attached always a good thing. ~pic 20~ uhm... Is /this/ the master suite? Oh okay. ~pic 21, 22, 23~ Alright that's not bad ~pic 24~ wait wtf, that isn't the same bed. This is one of the casitas? Was that bathroom the master or this one? SIGH ~pic 25, 26, 27~ Okay second casita. Its alright, has a nice view. ~pic 28~ What the **** is this? Seriously? Twin beds? In /wicker/?!? What are you house poor? OMG how embarrassing thank god the furniture goes before anyone thinks that's ours... ~pic 29~ ooo nice.. although... is that... Seriously? You missed the plumbing height for the washer? ...I have no words. ~pic 30~ ~squees~ WATER FEATURE! Major points! ~excitedly pic 31, 32, & 33 ~ No more pics of the water feature? Attempting to overcome my disappointment here, but I will grudgingly admit that's an okay view of the mountains. Hot tub and pool, plus water feature is a bonus. ~pic 34~ wait... ~pic 35~ wut... Okay so... two separate yards almost... hmmm Were you renting this?!? That is against the HOA and ewww renters in my future house? They never take care of stuff, mess up the carpets, put holes in the walls... No jumping to conclusions now self... Maybe it's so the guys can fake golf while us ladies socialize... ~pic 34~ Okay... just... no man! Your course view is absolutely pathetic and your silly putting green mini-golf setup is an insult to /real/ golfers. You're view is a sand dune... in the desert... throwing trees in front of it doesn't help when there's nothing /else/. Where's the outdoor grill station? Where's the fire pit seating area? Further more, the orientation of that patio is off into the lesser neighborhood, that's just not acceptable man. Why the hell did you disrespect the mountains? Oh trying to pathetically pretend you had a course view or something? As if you could actually sit on the patio and watch them play through /anyway/ giving that horrendous drop off? What a poser... I'll offer $800k because it needs so much work. That whole back patio has to go, the kitchen needs replacing, the washer pipes will need to be relocated, those rough timber logs need replacing/refacing/something and I still don't know if I like the first thing folks see being the casita so I might have to rip that down (If that's what pic one is, I can't tell and you didn't give me a proper street view.) Meh...

506 Calais:

~pic 1, 2, & 3~ Nice street view. ~coos~ Look at that course view! And separate garage for golf carts. Good good. ~frowns slightly~ How... uhm rustic that grand entrance is. ~pic 4 through 9~ UGH more rough wood accents ~starts list of things that have to go~ Front doors, post... ******* lots of posts, ceiling beams? seriously man? Ugh wth is over the stove bleh. Still great room is lovely, the back wall of windows offer a spectacular view from what I can see, and the proportions are very nice for parties. Separate bar area is great though the kitchen seems a little... outdated and the traffic flow is just odd - am I supposed to carry dishes from the sink to the dishwasher here or what? Meh on that so probably have to re do the kitchen entirely here as well, those cabinets are so... rustic. ~pic 10~ What a nice dining area, I really like the built in cabinet idea, but the pattern is... lacking for my taste - also uhm why doesn't in light insert match the wall? ~pic 11~ nice den. This rustic wood look though... I hope it stays on the furniture from here out ~pic 12 & 13~ What a spectacular guest room. The view is fantastic. ~pic 14~ Oh look more twin beds, wtf is wrong with you people? ~pic 15~ ~spies tiny suitcase~ Oh you have grand kids that visit... Alright I'll over look this... Question... is there a door on this "bedroom" here? ~pic16, 17~ Still don't know if there's a door... not a good sign, but that is a lovely bathroom... that's not the master is it? I'm not sharing my master bath with anyone okay. ~pic 18~ hmmm okay moving on, nice laundry, a bit clunky so new cabinets, but I really like that huge oversized door... too bad there's a doggy door in it and it's not leading to the garage. ~pic 19 through 21~ Oh yes, that's what I'm talking about. Look at all that space to entertain and relax in. The bamboo roof is beautiful. I like so far. ~pic 22 through 24~ A lovely casita, acceptable size, all the amenities. I approve ~pic 25 & 26 ~ I love the shape of this pool, very nice. No hot tub? ...Well I am from Alaska so maybe I can go without... maybe ~pic 27 through 29~ WATER FEATURE... wait... is that hmmm outside the fence.. is that mine or Falcon Ridges? Do I care? maybe? hm... ~pic 30 & 31~ Well that's nice, and you remembered the fire pit, very well in fact. I bet I could hear the water fall from there. I like it ~pic 32~ Stupid picture that is meaningless. Don't waste my damn time. ~pic 33 through 34~ OMG ~drools~ Yesh please! ~pic 34~ Repeat pic? Didn't I already tell you to stop wasting my damn time?

Okay so... given the other house's issues; doing something the rough timber posts and ceiling beams all over, front door has got to go, replacing cabinets in kitchen, bathrooms, laundry room, and probably the casita. You're forcing me to take the furniture so I'm going to have to burn it all or something. It's a bit more work for this one if we presume the casita in front of the other house can stay, and this is a smaller house and a year younger as well, BUT this place has a lovely street presence [after that door is burnt] and a killer course view so I'm willing to let the size loss/1/2 bath/lot size loss AND the lack of a hot tub slide. Still I question if that twin beds bedroom is a "proper" master suite for me. I'll offer $950k soft lob. (After viewing comes a hard ball, and I'd guess that at a bit shy of $1M because I have a feeling those twin beds are in the "master suite," in which case that room is a bit "thin" for my sleigh bed, both dressers, and nightstands which means selling furniture I /really/ want to keep... And obviously that other bedroom is unacceptable as a master - these folks had the same problem and that's probably why they're selling it.) -- PS hey, I didn't see a home theater, I'm knocking off $10k for false advertising.

Anyway, so even though one house "seems" better, it absolutely is not when you're talking about expensive houses. Worse for those super elites. Folks in the upper upper echelons /often/ have competitions between each other - I'd easily spend $10K just to mess with someone I know and if I didn't like them... well it could get expensive if I got pissy. For the super elites, friendly rivalries like that can easily get into millions of dollars (keep in mind to them it's like a $100 bet, not such a big deal.) So can I see someone getting into a bidding war with a Russian Diplomat in a time frame close to the cold war - easily. Hell a neighbor could hate Russian's and tried to bid him out of the house - and no I don't put it above Trump to encourage a sales battle either heh

 

[theHawk]

Yes I know that which is why those who say there was collusion should stop until something has been presented from the FBI or DOJ to support such a claim.

There was General Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador about the sanctions against Russia. That's a collusion, but it won't be released publicly since it was the subject of a FISA wiretap.

"Collusion" isn't a crime. Please cite the federal law that spells out exactly what "collusion" is and how it is illegal. Flynn's conversation with the Russian ambassador was in no way illegal or unethical. The progressives are trying to pin the Russian hacking(alleged, never proven) to the Trump campaign. There is zero evidence of that. Speaking with a Russian diplomat doesn't count as conspiracy to commit a federal crime, especially when the culprit of that crime (hacking DNC emails) hasn't even been identified much less proven.

 

[bripat9643]

He's not Russian, douche bag. He's American, and where is the evidence that he's a "Russian mobster?" What "direct ties to Russia" are you referring to?

You're getting ahead of yourself. First I just proved he has ties with Sater who he said he didn't have ties with. If you acknowledge that only then can you attempt to move to the next lesson.

Did I just show you with a picture of Trump and a picture of a Trump card with Sayers name on it as being a connection?

He signed a business deal with the guy. That's all the ties he has. I know people who have broken the law. Does that mean I have "ties" to them? This whole "ties" meme is utterly meaningless. It's the six degrees to Kevin Bacon theory. Only buffoons like you subscribe to it.

So again, if I just showed you a business card, a business deal and a picture with the guy is that considered a business tie or not?

Because now it seems you are attempting to set the stage to say that ties with Russians are OK for a reason you haven't come up with yet...

What crime did Trump commit? If you don't recall, Obama also had some ties with "bad guys," like William Ayers, a known terrorist, and you numskulls had no problem with that.

First have I established Trump's business ties with Russians or not? If not then any attempt at proving any crimes may exist would be pointless if you don't accept that fact.

No, you haven't done jack shit. One guy wasn't a Russian and the other simply bought a property Trump was selling. Those don't constitute "ties" with any Russian.

Furthermore, "tie" is such a nebulous term that it's virtually useless in any debate about the law or politics. You're using it precisely because it's vague and nebulous. It allows you to make accusations that are totally groundless.

 

[dannyboys]

Oh, so that firing that you desperately cried for, stopped the investigation?
.

Actually just like Nixon firing Archibald Cox, it won't stop the investigation.

The total lack of evidence is that will stop the witch hunt. However, Dims will keep pushing it until 2024.

The total lack of evidence

You know this how?

What's the evidence, turd?

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.

Either have you asshole!
You like to run you stupid mouth and 100% of the time you end end looking like the Lib asslicker you are.
Keep it up though.
Can't wait to read your posts when all three investigations find ZERO evidence of collusion.
By then you'll be sitting on top of another stinking dead horse wailing on it to get up and go somewhere that doesn't exist. HAAAA HAAAAA!!!!!

 

[dannyboys]

Oh, so that firing that you desperately cried for, stopped the investigation?
.

Actually just like Nixon firing Archibald Cox, it won't stop the investigation.

The total lack of evidence is that will stop the witch hunt. However, Dims will keep pushing it until 2024.

The total lack of evidence

You know this how?

What's the evidence, turd?

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.

Either have you asshole!
You like to run you stupid mouth and 100% of the time you end end looking like the Lib asslicker you are.
Keep it up though.
Can't wait to read your posts when all three investigations find ZERO evidence of collusion.
By then you'll be sitting on top of another stinking dead horse wailing on it to get up and go somewhere that doesn't exist. HAAAA HAAAAA!!!!!

 

[dannyboys]

Oh, so that firing that you desperately cried for, stopped the investigation?
.

Actually just like Nixon firing Archibald Cox, it won't stop the investigation.

The total lack of evidence is that will stop the witch hunt. However, Dims will keep pushing it until 2024.

The total lack of evidence

You know this how?

What's the evidence, turd?

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.

Either have you asshole!
You like to run you stupid mouth and 100% of the time you end end looking like the Lib asslicker you are.
Keep it up though.
Can't wait to read your posts when all three investigations find ZERO evidence of collusion.
By then you'll be sitting on top of another stinking dead horse wailing on it to get up and go somewhere that doesn't exist. HAAAA HAAAAA!!!!!

 

[dannyboys]

The total lack of evidence is that will stop the witch hunt. However, Dims will keep pushing it until 2024.

The total lack of evidence

You know this how?

What's the evidence, turd?

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.

Then you are admitting that you don't know of any evidence. Why do you keep pretending there is evidence?

Says the guy pretending there isn't.

I never said there was, dope.

I only said there's no way for you to know there isn't.

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.[/QUOTE]
Either have you asshole!
You like to run you stupid mouth and 100% of the time you end end looking like the Lib asslicker you are.
Keep it up though.
Can't wait to read your posts when all three investigations find ZERO evidence of collusion.
By then you'll be sitting on top of another stinking dead horse wailing on it to get up and go somewhere that doesn't exist. HAAAA HAAAAA!!!!!

 

[ClosedCaption]

You're getting ahead of yourself. First I just proved he has ties with Sater who he said he didn't have ties with. If you acknowledge that only then can you attempt to move to the next lesson.

Did I just show you with a picture of Trump and a picture of a Trump card with Sayers name on it as being a connection?

He signed a business deal with the guy. That's all the ties he has. I know people who have broken the law. Does that mean I have "ties" to them? This whole "ties" meme is utterly meaningless. It's the six degrees to Kevin Bacon theory. Only buffoons like you subscribe to it.

So again, if I just showed you a business card, a business deal and a picture with the guy is that considered a business tie or not?

Because now it seems you are attempting to set the stage to say that ties with Russians are OK for a reason you haven't come up with yet...

What crime did Trump commit? If you don't recall, Obama also had some ties with "bad guys," like William Ayers, a known terrorist, and you numskulls had no problem with that.

First have I established Trump's business ties with Russians or not? If not then any attempt at proving any crimes may exist would be pointless if you don't accept that fact.

No, you haven't done jack shit. One guy wasn't a Russian and the other simply bought a property Trump was selling. Those don't constitute "ties" with any Russian.

So he does business with two different guys associated with Russia but those aren't ties because....you're mad? Felix Sayer is well known and you're saying he doesn't count because you say he wasnt born in Russia so he gets a pass?

Furthermore, "tie" is such a nebulous term that it's virtually useless in any debate about the law or politics. You're using it precisely because it's vague and nebulous. It allows you to make accusations that are totally groundless.

So is this your newest excuse? Ties are OK because you don't like the way "Russian ties" sound?

Look bruh, Trump has done business with Russians. Why would Trump lie about it? At the very least you can see that he lied about knowing these guys. Here's a quote from an article on it.

Trump and his lawyers have said that he was not aware of Sater’s criminal past when he first signed on to do business with Sater’s firm, Bayrock Group. Sater’s involvement in the stock fraud was kept secret for years by federal prosecutors because of his role as an informant.

But even after elements of Sater’s background were disclosed in a 2007 New York Times article, he remained in close proximity to Trump — at one point using Trump Organization office space and business cards.

Now, again, why is this OK for you?

 

[dannyboys]

The total lack of evidence is that will stop the witch hunt. However, Dims will keep pushing it until 2024.

The total lack of evidence

You know this how?

What's the evidence, turd?

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.

Then you are admitting that you don't know of any evidence. Why do you keep pretending there is evidence?

Says the guy pretending there isn't.

I never said there was, dope.

I only said there's no way for you to know there isn't.

Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, dope.[/QUOTE]
Either have you asshole!
You like to run you stupid mouth and 100% of the time you end end looking like the Lib asslicker you are.
Keep it up though.
Can't wait to read your posts when all three investigations find ZERO evidence of collusion.
By then you'll be sitting on top of another stinking dead horse wailing on it to get up and go somewhere that doesn't exist. HAAAA HAAAAA!!!!!

Why would anyone need to explain a deal that went down 9 years ago? Are you actually implying that Trump was "colluding" with the Russians back then?

Trump paid $41.35 million for the property, and four years later he made a more than 100 percent profit by selling it to Rybolovlev. for $100 million.

That's my kind of businessman!

 

[edward37]

and assholes like you can't figure out why trump fired 3 people investigating his russian involvement

 

[dannyboys]

Something wasn't/isn't working with the posting prompt.
Sorry for the dups.

 

[Dragonlady]

Where do those who have claimed there was collusion between Trump and Russia even though to date no evidence has been presented to support such a claim post their apologies?

You have to be wilfully ignorant to believe that Trumps ties to Russia are non-existent or not problematic.

He owes his current wealth to Russian banks and oligarchs because American banks refused to lend him more money after his 3rd or 4th bankruptcy.

Russian oligarchs friendly to Putin have overpaid for Trump properties to line his pockets.

Trump's refusal to dispose of his business interests, and the aggressive expansion of Trump resorts, and increased in initiation fees since Trump's election, is a blatant attempt to profit from the office of the President.

Trump should be impeached for any of these acts, but firing Comey is proof positive of Trump's guilt in the Russia matter. Trump has done everything possible to impede, obstruct, delay, and deflect from this investigation, including bombing Syria. If there's nothing to find, why is Trump so afraid of the investigation.

Hillary Clinton endured 17 investigations and didn't run from any of them. She answered every question and didn't have anyone fired to stop the investigations.

Trump is so desperate to shut down this investigation he committed an impeachable offence (obstruction of justice), to shut it down. He has publicly threatened Comey if he testifies. Trump is running scared. Trouble is he to old, fat and slow to outrun this one.

Tick, tick, tick - the impeachment click is picking up speed. If Republicans don't impeach, they risk being landslided in the mid-terms. If they do impeach, they lose the alt-right.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner on this one.

 

[Dragonlady]

Where do those who have claimed there was collusion between Trump and Russia even though to date no evidence has been presented to support such a claim post their apologies?

You have to be wilfully ignorant to believe that Trumps ties to Russia are non-existent or not problematic.

He owes his current wealth to Russian banks and oligarchs because American banks refused to lend him more money after his 3rd or 4th bankruptcy.

Russian oligarchs friendly to Putin have overpaid for Trump properties to line his pockets.

Trump's refusal to dispose of his business interests, and the aggressive expansion of Trump resorts, and increased in initiation fees since Trump's election, is a blatant attempt to profit from the office of the President.

Trump should be impeached for any of these acts, but firing Comey is proof positive of Trump's guilt in the Russia matter. Trump has done everything possible to impede, obstruct, delay, and deflect from this investigation, including bombing Syria. If there's nothing to find, why is Trump so afraid of the investigation.

Hillary Clinton endured 17 investigations and didn't run from any of them. She answered every question and didn't have anyone fired to stop the investigations.

Trump is so desperate to shut down this investigation he committed an impeachable offence (obstruction of justice), to shut it down. He has publicly threatened Comey if he testifies. Trump is running scared. Trouble is he to old, fat and slow to outrun this one.

Tick, tick, tick - the impeachment click is picking up speed. If Republicans don't impeach, they risk being landslided in the mid-terms. If they do impeach, they lose the alt-right, and those who put Party before country.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner on this one.

 

[Dragonlady]

Where do those who have claimed there was collusion between Trump and Russia even though to date no evidence has been presented to support such a claim post their apologies?

You have to be wilfully ignorant to believe that Trumps ties to Russia are non-existent or not problematic.

He owes his current wealth to Russian banks and oligarchs because American banks refused to lend him more money after his 3rd or 4th bankruptcy.

Russian oligarchs friendly to Putin have overpaid for Trump properties to line his pockets.

Trump's refusal to dispose of his business interests, and the aggressive expansion of Trump resorts, and increased in initiation fees since Trump's election, is a blatant attempt to profit from the office of the President.

Trump should be impeached for any of these acts, but firing Comey is proof positive of Trump's guilt in the Russia matter. Trump has done everything possible to impede, obstruct, delay, and deflect from this investigation, including bombing Syria. If there's nothing to find, why is Trump so afraid of the investigation.

Hillary Clinton endured 17 investigations and didn't run from any of them. She answered every question and didn't have anyone fired to stop the investigations.

Trump is so desperate to shut down this investigation he committed an impeachable offence (obstruction of justice), to shut it down. He has publicly threatened Comey if he testifies. Trump is running scared. Trouble is he to old, fat and slow to outrun this one.

Tick, tick, tick - the impeachment click is picking up speed. If Republicans don't impeach, they risk being landslided in the mid-terms. If they do impeach, they lose the alt-right, and those who put Party before country.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner on this one.