Every one of you likely did something outrageous at the age of 16 or 17.

[Care4all]

If it wasn't important enough to report to the police 30 years ago why is it important enough to talk about today?

90% of women do not report it.... why bother, when nothing will happen anyway?

 

[edward37]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

I never attempted to rape a girl at 16 or 17.

If attempted forcible rape is something that you consider perfectly normal for a teenager, is there something you want to tell us, Gramps?

Thank you! This is a really sick thread. You can't dismiss attempted rape as a teenage indiscretion.

Shittingbull strikes again

It’s obvious the left wing nuts care nothing about truth or honesty or justice. If the charge was against a Democrat, they’d defend him to the end.

Like we did with Franken?? so your statement to the end is Repub bullshit

 

[Dragonlady]

...It never happened, douchebag...

And you know this to be a fact, how, again?

...The woman is obviously a sleazy lying nutburger.

Could be... could be...

The United States Senate will hear what she has to say, under oath, next Monday...

I'll withhold judgment until then.

it is my belief she is lying yes. why? because the core story changed and has had "3" faces along the way, each progressively worse until they finally got the reaction they needed.

if she is lying, she needs to be tossed in jail for this crap. the drama and the bullshit needs to come to an end and if we don't penalize people for this, it will only get worse and this will be our "politics" moving forward as both sides will engage in such defamation and say the other side started it.

is that what we really want? no. at least not me. so the next choice in line is as you say - put it to the test and see what happens. if she's telling the truth, make your decisions then. if not, directly to jail, no bail. your ass will be playing hard to get at the next prison dance.

There is probably no way to "prove" she is lying, anymore there is to prove she's telling the truth at this point.

hey - we agree. it's my belief she's lying her ass off but who knows anymore. still, it's only *my* belief which doesn't make me right, just how i feel. back to that emo-thing from last post. >g< we just seem to encourage people to lie either to get something out of them or because they want the attention we give them.

I strongly disagree.

The whole reason this woman didn’t want to go public is the personal attacks and abuse she’s now facing. Nobody does that for attention.

Time and time again it’s been proven that false allegatiopins are rare. The odds are 99/1 that she’s telling the truth. That doesn’t stop people from attacking victims. The first post I saw on this forum called her a “whore” repeatedly.

This is why women don’t come forward.

 

[Pop23]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

All that AND she doesn’t recall where?

I’ve known far too many sexual assault survivors to give this chick even a single ounce of credibility.

She, for pure political reasons, is using ACTUAL victims for political gain.

Shame on her and on those that likely talked her into it.

PERIOD.

you can rule political reasons out... she brought this out of her head in 2012 with a therapist and husband... she recently passed a polygraph on it.... she really believes it happened!

oh, she does recall where, the area of town, but not the person's name or specific address is what I heard...?

She named no names in 2012 She claimed 4 men. A private polygraph is completely worthless. Anyone who administers a polygraph, in five minutes can teach the subject how to pass the test.



If she had youtube, she had the ability to game the test.

I dated 2 women who were raped. One by a prominent male, both reported (in the 70's), and both recall, in chilling detail, the who, when, where and how. Both Men found guilty and both served extremely long prison sentences. I also worked in a support group for victims of crimes (in the 80's). Several of these were sexual assault victims. NONE OF THEM HAD THE FOGGY MEMORY AS THIS CHICK! Not one.

So please spare me about a claim that just doesn't hold water. I simply can't buy it.

Period!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

All that AND she doesn’t recall where?

I’ve known far too many sexual assault survivors to give this chick even a single ounce of credibility.

She, for pure political reasons, is using ACTUAL victims for political gain.

Shame on her and on those that likely talked her into it.

PERIOD.

you can rule political reasons out... she brought this out of her head in 2012 with a therapist and husband... she recently passed a polygraph on it.... she really believes it happened!

oh, she does recall where, the area of town, but not the person's name or specific address is what I heard...?

She told her therapist there were 4 boys. That isn't the story she told now.
And if her intent was to remain anonymous why take a polygraph?

 

[Ted Frazier]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

You mean like, rape-a-girl outrageous?

 

[Pop23]

...It never happened, douchebag...

And you know this to be a fact, how, again?

...The woman is obviously a sleazy lying nutburger.

Could be... could be...

The United States Senate will hear what she has to say, under oath, next Monday...

I'll withhold judgment until then.

it is my belief she is lying yes. why? because the core story changed and has had "3" faces along the way, each progressively worse until they finally got the reaction they needed.

if she is lying, she needs to be tossed in jail for this crap. the drama and the bullshit needs to come to an end and if we don't penalize people for this, it will only get worse and this will be our "politics" moving forward as both sides will engage in such defamation and say the other side started it.

is that what we really want? no. at least not me. so the next choice in line is as you say - put it to the test and see what happens. if she's telling the truth, make your decisions then. if not, directly to jail, no bail. your ass will be playing hard to get at the next prison dance.

There is probably no way to "prove" she is lying, anymore there is to prove she's telling the truth at this point.

hey - we agree. it's my belief she's lying her ass off but who knows anymore. still, it's only *my* belief which doesn't make me right, just how i feel. back to that emo-thing from last post. >g< we just seem to encourage people to lie either to get something out of them or because they want the attention we give them.

I strongly disagree.

The whole reason this woman didn’t want to go public is the personal attacks and abuse she’s now facing. Nobody does that for attention.

Time and time again it’s been proven that false allegatiopins are rare. The odds are 99/1 that she’s telling the truth. That doesn’t stop people from attacking victims. The first post I saw on this forum called her a “whore” repeatedly.

This is why women don’t come forward.

No, the odds, based on her own words, are extremely low she is telling the truth. Sexual Assault victims recall, in amazing detail the details of the attacks. This woman has changed the facts of the event several times and can't remember basic details. The chances it happened? Nearly zero.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

You mean like, rape-a-girl outrageous?

Who raped a girl? Are you making shit up again?

 

[iceberg]

...It never happened, douchebag...

And you know this to be a fact, how, again?

...The woman is obviously a sleazy lying nutburger.

Could be... could be...

The United States Senate will hear what she has to say, under oath, next Monday...

I'll withhold judgment until then.

it is my belief she is lying yes. why? because the core story changed and has had "3" faces along the way, each progressively worse until they finally got the reaction they needed.

if she is lying, she needs to be tossed in jail for this crap. the drama and the bullshit needs to come to an end and if we don't penalize people for this, it will only get worse and this will be our "politics" moving forward as both sides will engage in such defamation and say the other side started it.

is that what we really want? no. at least not me. so the next choice in line is as you say - put it to the test and see what happens. if she's telling the truth, make your decisions then. if not, directly to jail, no bail. your ass will be playing hard to get at the next prison dance.

There is probably no way to "prove" she is lying, anymore there is to prove she's telling the truth at this point.

hey - we agree. it's my belief she's lying her ass off but who knows anymore. still, it's only *my* belief which doesn't make me right, just how i feel. back to that emo-thing from last post. >g< we just seem to encourage people to lie either to get something out of them or because they want the attention we give them.

I strongly disagree.

The whole reason this woman didn’t want to go public is the personal attacks and abuse she’s now facing. Nobody does that for attention.

Time and time again it’s been proven that false allegatiopins are rare. The odds are 99/1 that she’s telling the truth. That doesn’t stop people from attacking victims. The first post I saw on this forum called her a “whore” repeatedly.

This is why women don’t come forward.

one thing i have learned in my time posting in this forum is it's pointless to talk to you.

 

[iceberg]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

You mean like, rape-a-girl outrageous?

that is not what he has been accused of now is it?

lie much, ted?

 

[Care4all]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

correct - "if" true.

but tell me please what the difference is between this and boys trying to get into girls pants, kinda thing. since we have no idea if this is true we have no idea how it went down, if it's true. so you're now making assumptions off speculation and only in the worst possible light so you can compare it to something harmless and call it not the same thing.

*if* even true at all.

i could just as easily say *IF TRUE* she was asking for it and changed her mind at the last minute and he obliged and drove her home and now she's upset for some reason and have just as much chance to be right as you.

*if* true.

the whole scenario is different than boys trying to get in your pants... read her side, pretend like this is your sister or mother or someone you trust of the female gender, when you read her letter... the whole incident is not some guy she knows from school trying to get in to your pants....

she was grabbed and forced in to the room with both boys, on her way to the bathroom... according to her...

Even if any part of her story is true, or all of it were true, nothing will come of it... Kavanaugh has lead a pretty decent life since he grew up, no other incidences occurred...

Maybe she will be able to heal herself...? to finally get this scary occurrence for a 15 yr old girl, out in the open... when she failed to do such, at 15, and locked it all up, in her head, letting it fester.

I don't want Kavanaugh for the legal positions he has taken over the years and it has nothing at all, not even a nano bit, to do with what this woman claims happened to her, at 15.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

And you know this to be a fact, how, again?

Could be... could be...

The United States Senate will hear what she has to say, under oath, next Monday...

I'll withhold judgment until then.

it is my belief she is lying yes. why? because the core story changed and has had "3" faces along the way, each progressively worse until they finally got the reaction they needed.

if she is lying, she needs to be tossed in jail for this crap. the drama and the bullshit needs to come to an end and if we don't penalize people for this, it will only get worse and this will be our "politics" moving forward as both sides will engage in such defamation and say the other side started it.

is that what we really want? no. at least not me. so the next choice in line is as you say - put it to the test and see what happens. if she's telling the truth, make your decisions then. if not, directly to jail, no bail. your ass will be playing hard to get at the next prison dance.

There is probably no way to "prove" she is lying, anymore there is to prove she's telling the truth at this point.

hey - we agree. it's my belief she's lying her ass off but who knows anymore. still, it's only *my* belief which doesn't make me right, just how i feel. back to that emo-thing from last post. >g< we just seem to encourage people to lie either to get something out of them or because they want the attention we give them.

I strongly disagree.

The whole reason this woman didn’t want to go public is the personal attacks and abuse she’s now facing. Nobody does that for attention.

Time and time again it’s been proven that false allegatiopins are rare. The odds are 99/1 that she’s telling the truth. That doesn’t stop people from attacking victims. The first post I saw on this forum called her a “whore” repeatedly.

This is why women don’t come forward.

one thing i have learned in my time posting in this forum is it's pointless to talk to you.

Once I realized she wasn't even an American she went to ignore.

 

[iceberg]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

correct - "if" true.

but tell me please what the difference is between this and boys trying to get into girls pants, kinda thing. since we have no idea if this is true we have no idea how it went down, if it's true. so you're now making assumptions off speculation and only in the worst possible light so you can compare it to something harmless and call it not the same thing.

*if* even true at all.

i could just as easily say *IF TRUE* she was asking for it and changed her mind at the last minute and he obliged and drove her home and now she's upset for some reason and have just as much chance to be right as you.

*if* true.

the whole scenario is different than boys trying to get in your pants... read her side, pretend like this is your sister or mother or someone you trust of the female gender, when you read her letter... the whole incident is not some guy she knows from school trying to get in to your pants....

she was grabbed and forced in to the room with both boys, on her way to the bathroom... according to her...

Even if any part of her story is true, or all of it were true, nothing will come of it... Kavanaugh has lead a pretty decent life since he grew up, no other incidences occurred...

Maybe she will be able to heal herself...? to finally get this scary occurrence for a 15 yr old girl, out in the open... when she failed to do such, at 15, and locked it all up, in her head, letting it fester.

I don't want Kavanaugh for the legal positions he has taken over the years and it has nothing at all, not even a nano bit, to do with what this woman claims happened to her, at 15.

if this were my sister, mother or someone i cared about i'd have beat kavenaughs ass 30 years ago. if she kept quiet i'd have to ask her why.

the timing of this is too questionable along with her story that went from being locked in the closet to sexual assault in 3 moves. which is it?

maybe she will heal herself? so you choose to believe her w/o hearing his side? isn't that just as bad as you telling me i need to pretend she's my sister and how would i feel? "claims" is a long way from truth and given the nature of politics these days, it just smells too much like another political ploy and i've grown weary of those.

 

[Pop23]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

correct - "if" true.

but tell me please what the difference is between this and boys trying to get into girls pants, kinda thing. since we have no idea if this is true we have no idea how it went down, if it's true. so you're now making assumptions off speculation and only in the worst possible light so you can compare it to something harmless and call it not the same thing.

*if* even true at all.

i could just as easily say *IF TRUE* she was asking for it and changed her mind at the last minute and he obliged and drove her home and now she's upset for some reason and have just as much chance to be right as you.

*if* true.

the whole scenario is different than boys trying to get in your pants... read her side, pretend like this is your sister or mother or someone you trust of the female gender, when you read her letter... the whole incident is not some guy she knows from school trying to get in to your pants....

she was grabbed and forced in to the room with both boys, on her way to the bathroom... according to her...

Even if any part of her story is true, or all of it were true, nothing will come of it... Kavanaugh has lead a pretty decent life since he grew up, no other incidences occurred...

Maybe she will be able to heal herself...? to finally get this scary occurrence for a 15 yr old girl, out in the open... when she failed to do such, at 15, and locked it all up, in her head, letting it fester.

I don't want Kavanaugh for the legal positions he has taken over the years and it has nothing at all, not even a nano bit, to do with what this woman claims happened to her, at 15.

if this were my sister, mother or someone i cared about i'd have beat kavenaughs ass 30 years ago. if she kept quiet i'd have to ask her why.

the timing of this is too questionable along with her story that went from being locked in the closet to sexual assault in 3 moves. which is it?

maybe she will heal herself? so you choose to believe her w/o hearing his side? isn't that just as bad as you telling me i need to pretend she's my sister and how would i feel? "claims" is a long way from truth and given the nature of politics these days, it just smells too much like another political ploy and i've grown weary of those.

Care4alls motive is clearly stated in the last sentence of the post. Progressives don't give a shit about truth, the ends simply justify the means.

 

[iceberg]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

correct - "if" true.

but tell me please what the difference is between this and boys trying to get into girls pants, kinda thing. since we have no idea if this is true we have no idea how it went down, if it's true. so you're now making assumptions off speculation and only in the worst possible light so you can compare it to something harmless and call it not the same thing.

*if* even true at all.

i could just as easily say *IF TRUE* she was asking for it and changed her mind at the last minute and he obliged and drove her home and now she's upset for some reason and have just as much chance to be right as you.

*if* true.

the whole scenario is different than boys trying to get in your pants... read her side, pretend like this is your sister or mother or someone you trust of the female gender, when you read her letter... the whole incident is not some guy she knows from school trying to get in to your pants....

she was grabbed and forced in to the room with both boys, on her way to the bathroom... according to her...

Even if any part of her story is true, or all of it were true, nothing will come of it... Kavanaugh has lead a pretty decent life since he grew up, no other incidences occurred...

Maybe she will be able to heal herself...? to finally get this scary occurrence for a 15 yr old girl, out in the open... when she failed to do such, at 15, and locked it all up, in her head, letting it fester.

I don't want Kavanaugh for the legal positions he has taken over the years and it has nothing at all, not even a nano bit, to do with what this woman claims happened to her, at 15.

if this were my sister, mother or someone i cared about i'd have beat kavenaughs ass 30 years ago. if she kept quiet i'd have to ask her why.

the timing of this is too questionable along with her story that went from being locked in the closet to sexual assault in 3 moves. which is it?

maybe she will heal herself? so you choose to believe her w/o hearing his side? isn't that just as bad as you telling me i need to pretend she's my sister and how would i feel? "claims" is a long way from truth and given the nature of politics these days, it just smells too much like another political ploy and i've grown weary of those.

Care4alls motive is clearly stated in the last sentence of the post. Progressives don't give a shit about truth, the ends simply justify the means.

yep. she wants all benefit of doubt but gives none. strange given no one really knows what happened but her entire post was "poor child we must console you".

 

[Care4all]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

All that AND she doesn’t recall where?

I’ve known far too many sexual assault survivors to give this chick even a single ounce of credibility.

She, for pure political reasons, is using ACTUAL victims for political gain.

Shame on her and on those that likely talked her into it.

PERIOD.

you can rule political reasons out... she brought this out of her head in 2012 with a therapist and husband... she recently passed a polygraph on it.... she really believes it happened!

oh, she does recall where, the area of town, but not the person's name or specific address is what I heard...?

She told her therapist there were 4 boys. That isn't the story she told now.
And if her intent was to remain anonymous why take a polygraph?

she's seeing or sought out a therapist, she obviously has issues with it all...

it was a mistake for her to come out in the open vs anonymous... she will pay a price for it, even if it is all true...

 

[Pop23]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

All that AND she doesn’t recall where?

I’ve known far too many sexual assault survivors to give this chick even a single ounce of credibility.

She, for pure political reasons, is using ACTUAL victims for political gain.

Shame on her and on those that likely talked her into it.

PERIOD.

you can rule political reasons out... she brought this out of her head in 2012 with a therapist and husband... she recently passed a polygraph on it.... she really believes it happened!

oh, she does recall where, the area of town, but not the person's name or specific address is what I heard...?

She told her therapist there were 4 boys. That isn't the story she told now.
And if her intent was to remain anonymous why take a polygraph?

she's seeing or sought out a therapist, she obviously has issues with it all...

it was a mistake for her to come out in the open vs anonymous... she will pay a price for it, even if it is all true...

The mistake was coming forward with a story that doesn't hold water. My only question is, who conspired to get her into this mess.

 

[Care4all]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

correct - "if" true.

but tell me please what the difference is between this and boys trying to get into girls pants, kinda thing. since we have no idea if this is true we have no idea how it went down, if it's true. so you're now making assumptions off speculation and only in the worst possible light so you can compare it to something harmless and call it not the same thing.

*if* even true at all.

i could just as easily say *IF TRUE* she was asking for it and changed her mind at the last minute and he obliged and drove her home and now she's upset for some reason and have just as much chance to be right as you.

*if* true.

the whole scenario is different than boys trying to get in your pants... read her side, pretend like this is your sister or mother or someone you trust of the female gender, when you read her letter... the whole incident is not some guy she knows from school trying to get in to your pants....

she was grabbed and forced in to the room with both boys, on her way to the bathroom... according to her...

Even if any part of her story is true, or all of it were true, nothing will come of it... Kavanaugh has lead a pretty decent life since he grew up, no other incidences occurred...

Maybe she will be able to heal herself...? to finally get this scary occurrence for a 15 yr old girl, out in the open... when she failed to do such, at 15, and locked it all up, in her head, letting it fester.

I don't want Kavanaugh for the legal positions he has taken over the years and it has nothing at all, not even a nano bit, to do with what this woman claims happened to her, at 15.

if this were my sister, mother or someone i cared about i'd have beat kavenaughs ass 30 years ago. if she kept quiet i'd have to ask her why.

the timing of this is too questionable along with her story that went from being locked in the closet to sexual assault in 3 moves. which is it?

maybe she will heal herself? so you choose to believe her w/o hearing his side? isn't that just as bad as you telling me i need to pretend she's my sister and how would i feel? "claims" is a long way from truth and given the nature of politics these days, it just smells too much like another political ploy and i've grown weary of those.

Care4alls motive is clearly stated in the last sentence of the post. Progressives don't give a shit about truth, the ends simply justify the means.

NO! LIAR! THAT is not what I said at all or in the least! Now wash your mouth out with soap, and go to your room!

 

[Ted Frazier]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

You mean like, rape-a-girl outrageous?

Who raped a girl? Are you making shit up again?

If nobody rape anyone, what is the purpose of you thread? Your thread has no point if you’re not trying to justify something by saying we did outrageous things as teenagers.
Please tell us why you created this pointless thread. Thank you.

 

[iceberg]

I think there is a segment who had drunken consensual sex and neither remember it in college for one hundred years+.
You just wake up the next day dehydrated from the booze. Usually kinda weird
At times someone was remorseful about the activities. And angry.
Flashing forward to today we are advocating the idea that if someone does not remember then it was sexual asssult. I do not agree.

i don't think that is it...

I think the point that is bothersome is her being captured and held in a room with him and his buddy, turning up the music so not to be heard, then holding his hand over her mouth so her screams could not be heard.... as described by her.... is the issue...

IF IT IS TRUE....

and Not just boys being boys and trying to get in your pants kind of thing.

All that AND she doesn’t recall where?

I’ve known far too many sexual assault survivors to give this chick even a single ounce of credibility.

She, for pure political reasons, is using ACTUAL victims for political gain.

Shame on her and on those that likely talked her into it.

PERIOD.

you can rule political reasons out... she brought this out of her head in 2012 with a therapist and husband... she recently passed a polygraph on it.... she really believes it happened!

oh, she does recall where, the area of town, but not the person's name or specific address is what I heard...?

She told her therapist there were 4 boys. That isn't the story she told now.
And if her intent was to remain anonymous why take a polygraph?

she's seeing or sought out a therapist, she obviously has issues with it all...

it was a mistake for her to come out in the open vs anonymous... she will pay a price for it, even if it is all true...

it's a mistake to keep letting anonymous people ruin lives. it's a price we all have to pay cause people can be such assholes on all sides.

she also was seeing the therapist in what, 2012? for what? i couldn't have been for this as that was what, 30 years previous to this? kavenaugh was never named to the therapist and we went from 4 on her to 2.

you'd never let trump or "the right" slide by with such conflicting details, but when it suits your sides purpose, "poor dear" comes out to play.

you think for a second that's not what the left was after in the end? blind pity mock rage?