Every conspiracy theory debunked

[Itsmethatguy]

I love america to the core, but it doesnt mean they dont do things that are wrong.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

crap like this shows more about your diminished intelligence than anything else

I think it shows more about my sense of humor.

Also, my diminished intelligence has done just fine thus far.

I dont see the humor in representing these courageous men and their service to this country in such a manner..and find it grossly disrespectful to them and to the family's and victims of 9/11


Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Ditto.I dont see the humor in that either.I find that post of that picture to be very childish.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

prove the editor of popular mechanics exist......you are ridiculous....

LOL
thats not hard at all
Contact - Popular Mechanics

you can actually CONTACT them

that does not prove his existence... you fail...but perhaps you should contact them and see if they are interested in debunking the patriots site...I have...there is never been a reply I have also posted them asking for a response on their comments but all comments must be approved to appear on the comments section for some reason this simply question is never approved...

not surprising to hear that.David Ray Griffith has asked NIST to debate with him in public on live television,they wont do it,they know Griffith will shread them to pieces so they decline.they wont debate anybody publicly that challenges their findings.PM also contradicted themselves with their answers when they were challenged live by a radio host on a live call in show once.you have posted that video before as well as i have bu they always ignore it though.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

no all you really have is no answer to the question ...so you make cornball jokes as a distraction from that fact...

Actually, I have answered them many times. Fucking OVER and OVER and OVER with the same people time and time again. Maybe your threshold of boredom is high. Mine's not. Dick Cheney says "hi" by the way.



Hey 9/11 inside job, have you got anything to say other than comment on September 11?

posting a link to popular mechanics is not sufficient..that cracks me up how TOTO always retreats to that fairy tale popular mechanics as his source when PM has been debunked countless numbers of times.

 

[DiveCon]

posting a link to popular mechanics is not sufficient..that cracks me up how TOTO always retreats to that fairy tale popular mechanics as his source when PM has been debunked countless numbers of times.

only one problem, PM hasnt been debunked to anyone that actually has a functioning brain
so that leaves YOU out

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article



Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."


Website: The Patriots


YouTube - LT. Col. Robert Bowman at American Scholars Symposium pt 1



YouTube - Dr. Bob Bowman reviews 9/11




YouTube - Scholars For 911Truth Take On Fox News And Win Big

now, get the Lt Col to join here
i have questions for him

so you believe they indeed exsist..good...they do give lectures and answer questions
however are unlikely to come to the usmb....this fine gentlemen however was kind enough to responded to my E-mail

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David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988


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yeah all these highly credible people that Eots has listed have proven and established beyond any reasonable doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.what I think is funny is that divecon doesnt think any of these people are real people when Bob Bowman is in fact going to be coming to my city next weekend to discuss the event.I am very much looking forward to meeting this man.He is a true patriot.

 

[DiveCon]

now, get the Lt Col to join here
i have questions for him

so you believe they indeed exsist..good...they do give lectures and answer questions
however are unlikely to come to the usmb....this fine gentlemen however was kind enough to responded to my E-mail

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David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988


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yeah all these highly credible people that Eots has listed have proven and established beyond any reasonable doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.what I think is funny is that divecon doesnt think any of these people are real people when Bob Bowman is in fact going to be coming to my city next weekend to discuss the event.I am very much looking forward to meeting this man.He is a true patriot.

what city would that be
and i bet he will have security to keep nutters like you away

 

[DiveCon]

what you should really question is why pm makes no mention of these people and they are vastly ignored by the mass media in favour of uncredentialed people and Rosie O'Donnell

btw, i did that contact page
and it was a company, not an individual
i have a feeling i either wont get a response or i will get a form letter telling me they dont handle those type of inquiries

more than I get from PM ... it was years ago I contacted him as things have grown I am sure E-mails got overwhelming but if you are truly interested in contacting some of these individuals with questions i will endeavour to find some E-mail addresses or if you wish to say what city you live in I will try and inform you of any lectures in your area...but there are films of lectures that answer most questions

i got NOTHING back
LOL

 

[eots]

the fact of these people existence has been established and any divconspiracy theory they dont just is denial...and defintely something to lol about..

 

[eots]

btw, i did that contact page
and it was a company, not an individual
i have a feeling i either wont get a response or i will get a form letter telling me they dont handle those type of inquiries

more than I get from PM ... it was years ago I contacted him as things have grown I am sure E-mails got overwhelming but if you are truly interested in contacting some of these individuals with questions i will endeavour to find some E-mail addresses or if you wish to say what city you live in I will try and inform you of any lectures in your area...but there are films of lectures that answer most questions

i got NOTHING back
LOL

I nothing back from popular mechanics...so according to diveconspiracy logic..they do not exsist

 

[DiveCon]

the fact of these people existence has been established and any divconspiracy theory they dont just is denial...and defintely something to lol about..

again, i have made no conspiracy
LOL
thats YOU morons

 

[DiveCon]

more than I get from PM ... it was years ago I contacted him as things have grown I am sure E-mails got overwhelming but if you are truly interested in contacting some of these individuals with questions i will endeavour to find some E-mail addresses or if you wish to say what city you live in I will try and inform you of any lectures in your area...but there are films of lectures that answer most questions

i got NOTHING back
LOL

I nothing back from popular mechanics...so according to diveconspiracy logic..they do not exsist

again, me asking you to first prove these men exist and then to prove that it was actually THEM post on your nutter sites, is NOT me making it a conspiracy

what it is is you failing to provide proof

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the fact of these people existence has been established and any divconspiracy theory they dont just is denial...and defintely something to lol about..

Let me guess,he doesnt think Robert Bowman who is coming to my city next weekend and will be at one of my citys major landmarks speaking about it,he doesnt believe that he is a real person or Ray Mcgovern a former CIA analysis for Bush sr who says it was an inside job that I have personally met,or that colonel Karen-"cant remember her last name" who wrote that book documenting all these high ranking military people in her book who have gone on record and said this is a fake and phony war.the frady cat divecon doesnt believe any of these people are real does he?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Really? Is it because you're not familiar with event?

Basically.

I've always thought that maybe the mob killed JFK. However, I don't have much interest in the subject and don't follow it that much.

But even if JFK was shot in a conspiracy, it does not mean that 9/11 was also a conspiracy. The fact that the government does not always tell us the truth does not mean that everything the government says is a lie.

Thats the way I am about the moon landing,dont have much of an interest in it and dont follow it that much which is why you wont find me arguing about it saying it was faked because I havent researched it that much since its not near as important of an event as other government conspiracys are.

See once again you demonstrate your ignorance Toto and why anybody with logic and common sense around here such as me,eots,terral,and lookout and others who arent in denial about government conspiracys should not pay atttention to your posts and why you lack any credibility with us.for one,anybody who has done any kind of extensive research on this subject knows that the mob was only involved at a low level.for a long time I myself thought it was the mob and the mob alone that pulled it off but the facts prove otherwise.for instance the mob did not have the power to set oswald up like he was.They didnt have the power to send him off to russia and bring him back the way he was.Oswald goes to russia and renounces his citizenship during the height of the cold war and threatens to reveal classified secrets to the russians yet he comes back to america freely.The man would have been prosecuted for treason if it wasnt part of a government operation.

The mob also never would have been able to get the secret service to lay down that day and not protect the president,when JFK went to berlin,he had secret service men surrounding him on the motercade which was stand procedure.Normal standard procedures that are used and were always used prior to nov 22nd were not followed that day.the mob sure as hell could not have changed the parade route either, but the smoking gun more than anything that proves it wasnt the mob, is the mob sure as hell could not have controlled the media like they were and got them to print oswald was the lone assassin.

Your also are obviously not aware that the 112th army division was called by a general and was told to stand down that day and not protect the president which the commanding officer of the 112th army objected to many times. the protection for the president that day was the work of the keystone cops.making the sharp turn slowing the car down to 11 miles an hour was a direct violation of secret service policy,as was having the patrol motercycles ride behind the limo instead of side by side and removing the bubbletop as well.the second an umbrella goes up during a presidential visit,secret servicemen are on top of it in a hearbeat,not to mention that they were never allowed to get that close to the motercade prior to nov 22nd. furthermore,when E HOWARD HUNT who was a CIA operative and who dies recently,he CONFESSED on tape to his son that the CIA killed him.also when the HSCA investigation was winding down in the 70's,two CIA officers came forward and confessed they did it as well only the HSCA never had any interest in investigating anything that pointed towards government involvement.

and who in the freaking hell here ever said that because kennedy was killed cause of a conspiracy,that 9/11 was an inside job as well? nobody.AGAIN you prove you have no credibility.you also show the true idiot you are saying 9/11 was NOT a conspiracy. for an event to be a conspiracy fool,it has to involve more than one person.In the governments version,they say 19 people were involved.guess what sonny? thats more than one person,therfore a conspiracy.

also whoever here said that just because the government doesnt always tell us the truth that everything they say is a lie? nobody.face it,you lack any credibility,your putting words in our mouths that we never said cause in the first place,Eots thouught the same thing I did.at first he believed the official version for a while.But like me he woke up and realised it was all a lie and that the government was behind it all when facts started emerging that proved so. I have said it many times before abd I will say it again,the REASON there is such a huge controversy over 9/11 and the kennedy assassination around the world is because the FACTS of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government. all you got to do is read the witness testimonys and view film footage and BOTH cases to know the government is lying and to know it was an inside job.only someone on drugs would think otherwise.

 

[slackjawed]

gotta bring this one back

 

[slackjawed]

now, get the Lt Col to join here
i have questions for him

so you believe they indeed exsist..good...they do give lectures and answer questions
however are unlikely to come to the usmb....this fine gentlemen however was kind enough to responded to my E-mail

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David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988


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yeah all these highly credible people that Eots has listed have proven and established beyond any reasonable doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.what I think is funny is that divecon doesnt think any of these people are real people when Bob Bowman is in fact going to be coming to my city next weekend to discuss the event.I am very much looking forward to meeting this man.He is a true patriot.

So.....how was the guy's talk? Bob Bowlman I mean.

 

[Toro]

gotta bring this one back

 

[slackjawed]

necropost? that is funny.