Ever wonder why 'liberal' is an insult?

[Vox]

What's you point? Are you saying PPACA is simplistic?

No, I am saying that Obamacare is a dumb idea, not well thought out, and unworkable in its present form. Maybe they should have read it and found out what was in it, before they passed it.

You do know it's a conservative idea, don't you?

What makes it unworkable?

no, it is not. stop lying.

 

[bripat9643]

Modern liberals bear no resemblance to those of the 18th century.

But people figured out that "progressive" basically meant socialist in the early 20th century, so they had to steal another description for themselves to obscure their true statist agenda.

It's all very Orewllean.

So this statist agenda has been going on for 100 years?

On another note, modern conservatives wear little tea bags on their hat brims and bear no resemblance to those of even 20 years ago.

It's been going on since we won the revolution. The Constitution is a product of the statist agenda.

 

[GreenBean]

You know also from my point of view, Carroll was only like 42 when that show started and he looked and acted 62
It did have it's good moment's though when Archie was taught a lesson in life.like when Sammy davis kissed him

Oh - it WAS a Great Show, it failed it's producers agenda because the General Public was not as indoctrinated and mentally modified as they are today .

One of Norman Lears {Producer} greatest fears was that

"People were laughing with Archie and not at him"

Which was a fact.

Wow the best post I have read this year

Thank You

 

[GreenBean]

I spend a lot of time trying to remain a neutral in political ideology. Insofar as my positions on issues though I think I'm a liberal-leaning moderate. But I try to just hop on one foot one ither side of the fence I may find myself on at a given moment. I believe choosing one side over the other, or identifying too much as particular things means you're becomming more biased the more definitions you take upon yourself. When we should all be more neutral and open to examination of things on a case by case basis.

Conservatives have good ideas and positions, but so do liberals. But do I want to see either have a majority power position? No way. That'd be stupid and only result in a majority of one sides' political interpretations coming to be. Too much of a good thing in other words. When a little bit of every idea is always better.

For my nerd friends, in AD&D terms I'm 'neutral good with lawful tendencies'

YOU spend alot of time trying to remain neutral

Having crossed your path b4 - I find that a little hard to believe

Did you learn to be a commune-dwelling kumbayanik at your liberal arts college, or did you pick it up while interning for the Taliban?

 

[Iceweasel]

Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.
~William E. Gladstone

How can anyone honestly believe that? It's pure propaganda. Even liberals admit to wanting big government, it's hardly a secret. If you endorse a bigger government then by definition you are wanting oversight of the people. That isn't trust.

 

[GreenBean]

Modern liberals bear no resemblance to those of the 18th century.

But people figured out that "progressive" basically meant socialist in the early 20th century, so they had to steal another description for themselves to obscure their true statist agenda.

It's all very Orewllean.

Interesting to note that all the loons at MSNBC are now referring to themselves and Obama's 'base' as "Progressives". Go figure.

Democrats used to call themselves liberals, then conservatives demonstrated to the world what liberals really were, that LIBERAL truly was a "Four Letter Word" and no one wanted to be associated with it anymore.

In the early 1900s their "progressive" racist agenda was rejected and they began cloaking themselves under the guise of "Liberal" - This topic is covered in depth in the Book Liberal Fascism by J. Goldberg. Progressives basically espoused Ideas similar to those incorporated by the Third Reich - racial purification - and Eugenics. One early twentieth Century group which has survived to the present day is Planned Parenthood - whose founder made the following statements:

[We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.

The purpose of the American Baby Code shall be to provide for a better distribution of babies… and to protect society against the propagation and increase of the unfit.

Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.

...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." referring to immigrants, negroes and poor people

Another Group which survived was the Democratic Party. A party who once employed the KKK as it's military faction. The party of Prominent Democratic Politicians such as Warren G. Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, Al Gore, Sr. all members of the KKK

And the very same Democratic Party that today has discovered that you can actually enslave an entire race of people and not call it slavery? Liberal Democrats have reintroduced slavery to the African American Community through so called social welfare programs.

Early progressives went into hiding under the word Liberal. Today's Liberals are going into hiding under the word Progressive.

Delta4 -so far as your interest in etymology - if you read this far, ponder this quote from a women who makes liberals spin their heads into unnatural positions and vomit out pea soup.

Words mean nothing to liberals. They say whatever will help advance their cause at the moment, switch talking points in a heartbeat, and then act indignant if anyone uses the exact same argument they were using five minutes ago. -- Ann Coulter

 

[edthecynic]

Words mean nothing to liberals. They say whatever will help advance their cause at the moment, switch talking points in a heartbeat, and then act indignant if anyone uses the exact same argument they were using five minutes ago. -- Ann Coulter

Conservatives just don't speak in slogans and we don't understand slogans.
--Ann Coulter - June 9, 2011

As gas prices soar, Republicans and oil company executives have revived a rallying cry that echoed around the country the last time gas prices spiked: "Drill, baby, drill!"
Ann Coulter - Apr 23, 2011

A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy.
Benjamin Disraeli

 

[GreenBean]

Liberals project their shortcomings onto conservatives. Their policies don't work so their solution is to do more of the same. Disagree with them and you quickly find out that they are not liberal by dictionary definitions.

^^^
A perfect example of projection!

Entomology is more cogent regarding liberals!

Archie bunker.... all in the family. He made the word
.. pinko liberal famous.
And what was funny was Carroll was a lib in real life

But he sure depicted the Right well.

Archie Bunker / All in the Family was one the early Liberal tools of indoctrination.
I believe I posted this a few pages back- but what the Hey - posted again....

"...Archie Bunker was the most devastating ideological scam in the cultural history of television. Archie Bunker was the conservative. He was ignorant, semi-illiterate, racist, mean, cowardly, and a sycophantic bully. Viewers were invited to assume that these were properties of everyone who resisted any civil-rights initiative, who thought favorable notice might be made of anything done by President Nixon, or thought the Vietnam War defensible." -William F. Buckley Jr.

All in the Family was the CBS top-rated program for years, winning 22 Emmys. It depicted what it's creators hoped would be a devastating blow to the foundation of the American Family. The archetype for an American working class father was Archie Bunker, a bigoted, opinionated, uneducated World War II veteran -a half wit . Inspired by a British sitcom Till Death Do Us Part, Alf Garnet was the Archie Bunker in the BBC version. Unlike Archie, Alf was not a very likeable character, Archie Bunker however , was a loveable buffoon. Episode after episode, brought to the forefront a societal issue, Women's "Lib" , gun control, gay rights, religion, racial integration, -- with Archie , and his street level Mugs Mahoney eloquence, pitching the conservative viewpoint. Mike {meathead}, played by Rob Reiner, son of the shows creator Carl Reiner {A stalwart of Left wing media manipulation} pitched the liberal stance.

All in The Family

 

[GreenBean]

I'm quite proud to be liberal.
Nothing makes me more proud of the label than to see how conservatives act.

Here is another reason.

And Democrats are Proud to Be Jack Asses ... so what's your point Jack Ass ?