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Pope forcibly removes leading US conservative, Texas bishop Strickland
Conservatism is a creeping illness that can even infect the most dedicated humanitarians.
Even the Pope is sick of the religious right
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Conservatism is a creeping illness that can even infect the most dedicated humanitarians.
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A link would help
Oh, look. The communist Pope got mad that one of his minions was pointing out that the Pope is a jackass.
How unsurprising.
DGS49
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Or, on the other hand, most American Catholics think that the current Pope is a Leftist ("Revolution Theology") who is more concerned about "social justice" than preaching the Gospel. This is the guy who asked, "Who am I to judge?" when speaking of homosexual sodomy.
For the record, there is no such thing as "social justice." Justice can only pertain to individuals.
For the record, there is no such thing as "social justice." Justice can only pertain to individuals.
I love Strickland. He tells it like it is. I am hopeful the next pope will be from Africa. Conservatism is the essence of the true church. It is also the most compassionate.
I think it's important to separate the person from the deed. Just because someone was born with gay tendencies doesn't mean he acts on them. Very much the same as an alcoholic.
Francis' actual quote was: “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” I totally agree with that. The problem is the atheist Marxist media blows that up to say "Pope approves of gay behavior" which is untrue. The media does this to stoke division in the Catholic Church.
This isn't to say I am uncritical of this pope. I don't like that he blasts and unseats conservatives. But I will say once again, the atheist media exaggerates some things he says and puts words into his mouth.
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BTW no one was more conservative (by your definition) than JPII and Pope Benedict.
The present Pope is a Jesuit and even in his own order you are considered wrong by both sides
BTW again, do you know canon law, there is NO forcible removal. IN fact removal is not even what is done
"even the Roman Pontiff can deprive the bishop of office ONLY in response to an ecclesiastical “crime”—a clear offense against a defined provision of canon law. Such canonical proceedings are confidential, so we do not know exactly what offenses were cited. "
AND YOU SEEM UNAWARE OF THE PROCESS ITSELF
"In some particular circumstances, the competent authority can consider it necessary to ask a bishop to present his resignation from pastoral office, after having made known the reasons for the request and listening carefully to the reasons, in fraternal dialogue."
This rescript does little more than put in writing what popes have been doing. But it is noteworthy that it avoids language like "fire" or "dismiss"; rather, it speaks of "inviting" or "asking" a bishop to "offer his resignation." It also requires that the "reasons for the request" be made known to the bishop and the process involve a "fraternal dialogue."
In reality, bishops are not fired, but talked into resigning.
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I have been hopeful of an African Pope for a long time. This will smoke out all the fake liberals, and I think most liberals who speak on religious matters are trying to avoid Freedom of Religion, just something a couple of decades made me see
Biff_Poindexter
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If Catholics can't adequately demonize and hate gays; what good is it to be religious?
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The current Pope isn't popular with American Catholics... trust me on this
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What if the "African" pope is against colonialism and encourages African countries to do more nationalization of their resources?I have been hopeful of an African Pope for a long time. This will smoke out all the fake liberals, and I think most liberals who speak on religious matters are trying to avoid Freedom of Religion, just something a couple of decades made me see
Like, what if it this "African" pope is like a Desmond Tutu?
"In more recent years Tutu has become known for his strong advocacy on issues of sexuality, in particular the rights of lesbian and gay people. For instance, in 2013, he made global headlines with the clear and succinct statement, in typical Tutu fashion, that he: "would rather go to hell than to a homophobic heaven"
Desmond Tutu’s long history of fighting for lesbian and gay rights
Desmond Tutu is by far the most high-profile African, if not global, religious leader to support lesbian and gay rights, and he has done so since the 1970s.
theconversation.com
Hopefully that "African" pope would be a more evangelical type and wish death on gay people like Jesus taught (even tho he didn't).
After U.S. men visit, Uganda eyes death for gays
Human rights advocates say a conference with three Americans helped set the stage for a bill to execute homosexuals.
www.nbcnews.com
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They may have forgotten Christ's words to all his disciples: "Wash each other's feet."
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Whatever....Your rank bigotry is already well known.
Oddball
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I'm not a bigot, I'm a bigot!
Toddsterpatriot
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This Pope is a commie twat.
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That all changed in the mid-19th century, when clandestine societies populated by Modernists and Marxists hatched a plan to subvert the Catholic Church from within. Their goal: to change Her doctrine, Her liturgy, and Her mission.
In this captivating and carefully documented book, Dr. Taylor Marshall pulls back the curtain on their nefarious plan, showing how these enemies of Christ strategically infiltrated the seminaries, then the priesthood, then the episcopacy, and eventually the cardinal-electors all with the eventual goal of electing one of their own as pope.
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