Even the "Economist" prints, "Was Israel a Mistake"

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Economist is a financial magazine, normally very supportive of Israel.

My son has subscribed to The Economist for the last two year and we both read and discuss their articles on a weekly basis.
The Economist is NOT pro-Israel.

Of course it is, like all financial publications. You probably read U.S. media which is basically a re-writing of Israeli propaganda so you don't realize when normal international media is pro-Israel. Neutral media like Le Monde, Corriere della Sera, etc. will criticize Israel occasionally.

Of course it is, like all financial publications.

LOL! When is the last time you read it?

 

[flacaltenn]

So???

The Economist is a financial magazine, normally very supportive of Israel.

Whenever I read the Economist, it was full of hatred for Israel.

Not supportive at all. Never once.

That's weird. Why would Zionist controlled media do something self-debasing like that??

 

[Ropey]

The Economist is a financial magazine, normally very supportive of Israel.

Whenever I read the Economist, it was full of hatred for Israel.

Not supportive at all. Never once.

That's weird. Why would Zionist controlled media do something self-debasing like that??

It must be the self-hating Zionists.

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

Wow!

Israel has treated the Palestinian's like garbage for the last 47 years. There are a lot of similarities between Israel now and Nazi Germany during the 10 years prior to the Holocaust. The ramping up of hatred. The acceptance of violence. The constant state-sponsored propaganda. Israeli-Nazis are a definite reality.

If you want to talk about terrorists, you have no further to look than the Likud Party, whose roots are with Irgun, a Jewish terrorist group.

(COMMENT)

The Irgun was not formed until 1931; largely in response to the formation of the Palestinian Black Hand (PBH) by Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam in the previous year. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam is the revered Martyr of HAMAS (Article 7). As the leader of the Palestinian Black Hand, it was the organizational tool that al-Qassam used to "proclaim jihad and attack Jewish settlers" from 1930 until he was killed by British Police in 1935. However al-Qassam, prior to the formation of his own Jihadist Group - PBH, had been cooperating with the Mufti of Jerusalem (Haj Amin al-Husseini) since the early 1920's; and played a roll in the instigation of the 1929 Riots.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

Quite a few Israelis already are, tick...tick...tick.

Yeah I agree the clock is ticking for Hamas. Israel just calling up 16,000 more of its reserves means Israelis are going in for the kill. Shooting rockets at Israelis from schools and hospitals for PR purposes isn't going to stop Israel from finishing the wounded Hamas animals off either.

Kiss your Hamas goodbye.

Well, "Wrong again Rude-e" the 16,000 reservists called up are only to replace those who have been at the front for too long, and need to be sent home for a rest, clearly murdering women and children can tire out even IDF thugs.

Anyway as it's 1st August today I'm reminded of another historic moment, the Warsaw uprising of 1944 started today, an event that bears striking similarities with what's going on in Gaza today.

They fought in tunnels and sewers:

Their children fought alongside them:

They fought for their dignity and freedom against an overwhelmingly powerful, brutal, repressive and murderous regime.

Warsaw 1944 - Gaza 2014 --plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

They may very well lose this battle but the gallant stand the Palestinian Resistance is making in Gaza will doubtless inspire generations of Muslims to come, both inside and outside of Palestine. As the saying goes, they will be Legion and they will have their revenge. Dead or alive, HAMAS has already won this war; that's the real tragedy of this latest pointless massacre of innocents.

Wipe out HAMAS? You get ISIS or ISLAMIC JIHAD or whoever next steps up to the plate. Jihadist recruiting offices are already overflowing with eager new recruits awaiting their chance to be martyrs and taking as many Zionists with them when they go.

Yeah, mentally challenged thinks Warsaw residents were ruled by a terrorist organization and were lobbing missiles at the Nazis. A quick recap of the history of the Palestinian relationship with the Nazis and how the Muslim Brotherhood infected the Arab world with Nazi ideology.

Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage

 

[Beelzebub]

The war crimes that America is supporting should require a doubling of the capacity of the US prison system. And that would only contain the worst 10% of war-criminal collaborators in the USA.

America is the greatest source of evil. It seems more infectious there than the common cold, and more persistent than death.

 

[Roudy]

The war crimes that America is supporting should require a doubling of the capacity of the US prison system. And that would only contain the worst 10% of war-criminal collaborators in the USA.

America is the greatest source of evil. It seems more infectious there than the common cold, and more persistent than death.

Spoken like a true Moooooslem enemy within, who thinks mooooooslems are exempt from war crimes. Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

Billo_Really, et al,

Wow!

Israel has treated the Palestinian's like garbage for the last 47 years. There are a lot of similarities between Israel now and Nazi Germany during the 10 years prior to the Holocaust. The ramping up of hatred. The acceptance of violence. The constant state-sponsored propaganda. Israeli-Nazis are a definite reality.

If you want to talk about terrorists, you have no further to look than the Likud Party, whose roots are with Irgun, a Jewish terrorist group.

(COMMENT)

The Irgun was not formed until 1931; largely in response to the formation of the Palestinian Black Hand (PBH) by Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam in the previous year. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam is the revered Martyr of HAMAS (Article 7). As the leader of the Palestinian Black Hand, it was the organizational tool that al-Qassam used to "proclaim jihad and attack Jewish settlers" from 1930 until he was killed by British Police in 1935. However al-Qassam, prior to the formation of his own Jihadist Group - PBH, had been cooperating with the Mufti of Jerusalem (Haj Amin al-Husseini) since the early 1920's; and played a roll in the instigation of the 1929 Riots.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after the Hebron massacre of 1929.

 

[I.P.Freely]

The war crimes that America is supporting should require a doubling of the capacity of the US prison system. And that would only contain the worst 10% of war-criminal collaborators in the USA.

America is the greatest source of evil. It seems more infectious there than the common cold, and more persistent than death.

Spoken like a true Moooooslem enemy within, who thinks mooooooslems are exempt from war crimes. Ha ha ha.

are you still running from those moooooslems tough guy.Care to sit on my knee and tell us what happened[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6LVI1gDswg"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6LVI1gDswg[/ame]

 

[Challenger]

...Yeah, mentally challenged thinks Warsaw residents were ruled by a terrorist organization and were lobbing missiles at the Nazis. A quick recap of the history of the Palestinian relationship with the Nazis and how the Muslim Brotherhood infected the Arab world with Nazi ideology.

Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage

Aah yes, the recap of the "history of the Palestinian relationship with the Nazis and how the Muslim Brotherhood infected the Arab world with Nazi ideology." that was mainly written by a Holocaust denier, who presents no evidence to back up his claims, just bloviates his hatred of everything Islamic...admit it Wrong again Rude-eee, it's you! You are just publicizing you own blogsite.

What the nazis did to Warsaw:

What the Zionists are doing to Gaza

As for the Warsaw uprising, the Nazis frequently called the AK "terrorsists","bandits" and "murderers". The AK committed many acts of resistance against the Nazi occupation, including killing German colonists....

Anyone can look up Warsaw Uprising and Polish Home Army on the web for more information. Of course for Wrong again Rude-eee, who clearly is incapable of finding his backside without assistance, here's a link

Warsaw Uprising | World War II Database
POLISH HOME ARMY (AK) - HISTORY

This also resonates across the ages (taken from the account in second cited link).

"In 1942 the Home Army also started guerilla operations. The first one commenced during the night of December 31, 1942 in the area of Zamosc, where the Germans had started a brutal removal of the Polish population in order to replace them with German farmers. The operation of the partisans in the forests near Zamosc and Krasnobrod lasted until mid-February 1943. The Germans used police and army battalions, tanks and warplanes..."

Sound familliar?

 

[Challenger]

The Irgun was not formed until 1931; largely in response to the formation of the Palestinian Black Hand (PBH) by Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam in the previous year.

Can you provide evidence to substantiate this claim?

Although about the Stern Gang, Jabotinsky's motivations are explored in some detail here:

The Stern Gang: Ideology, Politics, and Terror, 1940-1949 - Joseph Heller - Google Books

The PBH is not mentioned, nor does it follow that just because the PBH was formed before the Irgun, the Irgun was created because of the PBH, you risk faling into the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Given that PBH operations started 1 day after Irgun started operations, I'd be very wary of falling into the same fallacy trap.

 

[Challenger]

....Gee Whiz.. I missed the part where the Warsaw Ghetto had an elected govt and got International Aid for Development...

That's probably because you confused the Warsaw uprising of 1944, with the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943.

 

[rhodescholar]

Little by little. On small step at a time.

Little by little what?

 

[rhodescholar]

....Oh, no, Geez. Don't do that to us. We're packing right away...

Quite a few Israelis already are, tick...tick...tick.

Really? You think so?

Idiot, there are literally millions and millions of us with hardcore mil training who would be on the next flight to Israel TODAY to help her kill large numbers of iranian and qatar funded muslim scum. In 1,000 years morons like you will be repeating your fantasies

 

[member]

I agree with Oriana Fallaci.

I find it shameful that in Italy there should be a procession of individuals dressed as suicide bombers who spew vile abuse at Israel, hold up photographs of Israeli leaders on whose foreheads they have drawn the swasitka, incite people to hate the Jews. And who, in order to see Jews once again in the extermination camps, in the gas chambers, in the ovens of Dachau and Mauthausen and Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen et cetera, would sell their own mother to a harem.

I find it shameful that the Catholic Church should permit a bishop, one with lodgings in the Vatican no less, a saintly man who was found in Jerusalem with an arsenal of arms and explosives hidden in the secret compartments of his sacred Mercedes, to participate in that procession and plant himself in front of a microphone to thank in the name of God the suicide bombers who massacre the Jews in pizzerias and supermarkets. To call them "martyrs who go to their deaths as to a party."

I find it shameful that in France, the France of Liberty-Equality-Fraternity, they burn synagogues, terrorize Jews, profane their cemeteries. I find it shameful that the youth of Holland and Germany and Denmark flaunt the kaffiah just as Mussolini's avant garde used to flaunt the club and the fascist badge. I find it shameful that in nearly all the universities of Europe Palestinian students sponsor and nurture anti-semitism. That in Sweden they asked that the Nobel Peace Prize given to Shimon Peres in 1994 be taken back and conferred on the dove with the olive branch in his mouth, that is on Arafat. I find it shameful that the distinguished members of the Committee, a Committee that (it would appear) rewards political color rather than merit, should take this request into consideration and even respond to it. In hell the Nobel Prize honors he who does not receive it.

I find it shameful (we're back in Italy) that state-run television stations contribute to the resurgent antisemitism, crying only over Palestinian deaths while playing down Israeli deaths, glossing over them in unwilling tones. I find it shameful that in their debates they host with much deference the scoundrels with turban or kaffiah who yesterday sang hymns to the slaughter at New York and today sing hymns to the slaughters at Jerusalem, at Haifa, at Netanya, at Tel Aviv. I find it shameful that the press does the same, that it is indignant because Israeli tanks surround the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, that it is not indignant because inside that same church two hundred Palestinian terrorists well armed with machine guns and munitions and explosives (among them are various leaders of Hamas and Al-Aqsa) are not unwelcome guests of the monks (who then accept bottles of mineral water and jars of honey from the soldiers of those tanks). I find it shameful that, in giving the number of Israelis killed since the beginning of the Second Intifada (four hundred twelve), a noted daily newspaper found it appropriate to underline in capital letters that more people are killed in their traffic accidents. (Six hundred a year).

I find it shameful that the Roman Observer, the newspaper of the Pope--a Pope who not long ago left in the Wailing Wall a letter of apology for the Jews--accuses of extermination a people who were exterminated in the millions by Christians. By Europeans. I find it shameful that this newspaper denies to the survivors of that people (survivors who still have numbers tattooed on their arms) the right to react, to defend themselves, to not be exterminated again. I find it shameful that in the name of Jesus Christ (a Jew without whom they would all be unemployed), the priests of our parishes or Social Centers or whatever they are flirt with the assassins of those in Jerusalem who cannot go to eat a pizza or buy some eggs without being blown up. I find it shameful that they are on the side of the very ones who inaugurated terrorism, killing us on airplanes, in airports, at the Olympics, and who today entertain themselves by killing western journalists. By shooting them, abducting them, cutting their throats, decapitating them.

(There's someone in Italy who, since the appearance of Anger and Pride, would like to do the same to me. Citing verses of the Koran he exorts his "brothers" in the mosques and the Islamic Community to chastise me in the name of Allah. To kill me. Or rather to die with me. Since he's someone who speaks English well, I'll respond to him in English: "**** you.")

I find it shameful that almost all of the left, the left that twenty years ago permitted one of its union processionals to deposit a coffin (as a mafioso warning) in front of the synagogue of Rome, forgets the contribution made by the Jews to the fight against fascism. Made by Carlo and Nello Rossini, for example, by Leone Ginzburg, by Umberto Terracini, by Leo Valiani, by Emilio Sereni, by women like my friend Anna Maria Enriques Agnoletti who was shot at Florence on June 12, 1944, by seventy-five of the three-hundred-thirty-five people killed at the Fosse Ardeatine, by the infinite others killed under torture or in combat or before firing squads. (The companions, the teachers, of my infancy and my youth.)

I find it shameful that in part through the fault of the left--or rather, primarily through the fault of the left (think of the left that inaugurates its congresses applauding the representative of the PLO, leader in Italy of the Palestinians who want the destruction of Israel)--Jews in Italian cities are once again afraid. And in French cities and Dutch cities and Danish cities and German cities, it is the same. I find it shameful that Jews tremble at the passage of the scoundrels dressed like suicide bombers just as they trembled during Krystallnacht, the night in which Hitler gave free rein to the Hunt of the Jews.

I find it shameful that in obedience to the stupid, vile, dishonest, and for them extremely advantageous fashion of Political Correctness the usual opportunists--or better the usual parasites--exploit the word Peace. That in the name of the word Peace, by now more debauched than the words Love and Humanity, they absolve one side alone of its hate and bestiality. That in the name of a pacifism (read conformism) delegated to the singing crickets and buffoons who used to lick Pol Pot's feet they incite people who are confused or ingenuous or intimidated. Trick them, corrupt them, carry them back a half century to the time of the yellow star on the coat. These charlatans who care about the Palestinians as much as I care about the charlatans. That is not at all.

I find it shameful that many Italians and many Europeans have chosen as their standard-bearer the gentleman (or so it is polite to say) Arafat. This nonentity who thanks to the money of the Saudi Royal Family plays the Mussolini ad perpetuum and in his megalomania believes he will pass into History as the George Washington of Palestine. This ungrammatical wretch who when I interviewed him was unable even to put together a complete sentence, to make articulate conversation. So that to put it all together, write it, publish it, cost me a tremendous effort and I concluded that compared to him even Ghaddafi sounds like Leonardo da Vinci.

This false warrior who always goes around in uniform like Pinochet, never putting on civilian garb, and yet despite this has never participated in a battle. War is something he sends, has always sent, others to do for him. That is, the poor souls who believe in him. This pompous incompetent who playing the part of Head of State caused the failure of the Camp David negotiations, Clinton's mediation. No-no-I-want-Jerusalem-all-to-myself. This eternal liar who has a flash of sincerity only when (in private) he denies Israel's right to exist, and who as I say in my book contradicts himself every five minutes. He always plays the double-cross, lies even if you ask him what time it is, so that you can never trust him. Never! With him you will always wind up systematically betrayed. This eternal terrorist who knows only how to be a terrorist (while keeping himself safe) and who during the Seventies, that is when I interviewed him, even trained the terrorists of Baader-Meinhof. With them, children ten years of age. Poor children. (Now he trains them to become suicide bombers. A hundred baby suicide bombers are in the works: a hundred!).

This weathercock who keeps his wife at Paris, served and revered like a queen, and keeps his people down in the shit. He takes them out of the shit only to send them to die, to kill and to die, like the eighteen year old girls who in order to earn equality with men have to strap on explosives and disintegrate with their victims. And yet many Italians love him, yes. Just like they loved Mussolini. And many other Europeans do the same.

I find it shameful and see in all this the rise of a new fascism, a new nazism. A fascism, a nazism, that much more grim and revolting because it is conducted and nourished by those who hypocritically pose as do-gooders, progressives, communists, pacifists, Catholics or rather Christians, and who have the gall to label a warmonger anyone like me who screams the truth.

I see it, yes, and I say the following. I have never been tender with the tragic and Shakespearean figure Sharon. ("I know you've come to add another scalp to your necklace," he murmured almost with sadness when I went to interview him in 1982.) I have often had disagreements with the Israelis, ugly ones, and in the past I have defended the Palestinians a great deal. Maybe more than they deserved. But I stand with Israel, I stand with the Jews.

I stand just as I stood as a young girl during the time when I fought with them, and when the Anna Marias were shot. I defend their right to exist, to defend themselves, to not let themselves be exterminated a second time. And disgusted by the antisemitism of many Italians, of many Europeans, I am ashamed of this shame that dishonors my Country and Europe. At best, it is not a community of States, but a pit of Pontius Pilates. And even if all the inhabitants of this planet were to think otherwise, I would continue to think so.

General Topics - Oriana Fallaci on Antisemitism Today

Yowzer…i take it from this, that:



Italy is an evil hell-hole

Italians are evil

Pope Francis () is evil

Catholics/Christians are evil



... .....how'bout adding 1 more evil thing to your list:





()

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[Roudy]

So to recap, you can't show us that Warsaw shot missiles at the Nazis, nor can you show us that Warsaw was ruled by a terrorist organization, nor can you disprove the love affair the Palestinians specifically the IslamoNazi Mufti had with the Nazis. You're just a fulla shit propagandist for HamASS.

 

[Roudy]

The Irgun was not formed until 1931; largely in response to the formation of the Palestinian Black Hand (PBH) by Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam in the previous year.

Can you provide evidence to substantiate this claim?

Although about the Stern Gang, Jabotinsky's motivations are explored in some detail here:

The Stern Gang: Ideology, Politics, and Terror, 1940-1949 - Joseph Heller - Google Books

The PBH is not mentioned, nor does it follow that just because the PBH was formed before the Irgun, the Irgun was created because of the PBH, you risk faling into the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Given that PBH operations started 1 day after Irgun started operations, I'd be very wary of falling into the same fallacy trap.

You're forgetting that all these "gangs" were created AFTER Muslim animals committed genocide on the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929. As usual Muslims want to kill and commit terror with no consequences.

 

[Indeependent]

My son received his weekly copy of The Economist today, Saturday, August 2nd.
I will now make Monty look like the stupid Jew Hater he is by presenting the article in CONTEXT.

The magazine is next to my left hand as I type the boring issue details...

The Economist August 2nd-8th 2014

Front Page Caption
Winning the battle,
losing the war

Page 5
The world this week
Politics

First Paragraph

Page 7
Leaders
Winning the battle, losing the war

Page 16
Briefing
Israel and the world
Us and them
(No specific contributor to this article)
"Was Israel all a mistake?"

So what's the problem?
I would ask Monty himself, but he's so full of shit he would make up an answer that has NOTHING to do with the ACTUAL gist of the articles.

Israel, according to this week's issue, is losing the PUBLIC RELATIONS War.
All the history and facts concerning the Israel/Gaza issue are COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF ISRAEL.
You see, according to The Economist, the debate held in a grand Georgian library in Manchester was attended by IGNORAMUSES.
Right Monty; I mean, you DID read the ENTIRE article, did you not?

So Monty, if you love and respect The Economist so much, why do you not COMPLETELY agree with the assessment of The Economist?


ONCE AGAIN:
All the history and facts concerning the Israel/Gaza issue are COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF ISRAEL.

 

[member]

The war crimes that America is supporting should require a doubling of the capacity of the US prison system. And that would only contain the worst 10% of war-criminal collaborators in the USA.

America is the greatest source of evil. It seems more infectious there than the common cold, and more persistent than death.

Spoken like a true Moooooslem enemy within, who thinks mooooooslems are exempt from war crimes. Ha ha ha.

The bloke knows the real scoop (about the muslim atrocity world)..........it can't be denied.

he/she (?) i really don't know - very brainwashed.


.....feel pity/sadness for.....the cave-chap.

 

[Challenger]

My son received his weekly copy of The Economist today, Saturday, August 2nd.
I will now make Monty look like the stupid Jew Hater he is by presenting the article in CONTEXT.

The magazine is next to my left hand as I type the boring issue details...

The Economist August 2nd-8th 2014

Front Page Caption
Winning the battle,
losing the war

Page 5
The world this week
Politics

First Paragraph

Page 7
Leaders
Winning the battle, losing the war

Page 16
Briefing
Israel and the world
Us and them
(No specific contributor to this article)
"Was Israel all a mistake?"

So what's the problem?
I would ask Monty himself, but he's so full of shit he would make up an answer that has NOTHING to do with the ACTUAL gist of the articles.

Israel, according to this week's issue, is losing the PUBLIC RELATIONS War.
All the history and facts concerning the Israel/Gaza issue are COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF ISRAEL.
You see, according to The Economist, the debate held in a grand Georgian library in Manchester was attended by IGNORAMUSES.
Right Monty; I mean, you DID read the ENTIRE article, did you not?

So Monty, if you love and respect The Economist so much, why do you not COMPLETELY agree with the assessment of The Economist?


ONCE AGAIN:
All the history and facts concerning the Israel/Gaza issue are COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF ISRAEL.

Care tp point out exactly where in the article it states, "All the history and facts concerning the Israel/Gaza issue are COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF ISRAEL." I missed it. thanks in advance.

Israel and the world: Us and them | The Economist

Israel: Winning the battle, losing the war | The Economist