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No actually we are talking about Jews taking back what's been their's for over 3000 years, dipshit.
Even Jesus Is A Zionist
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Who is Jesus?
The Gospels define Jesus.
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
Matthew 1
1*The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ,*the son of David,*the son of Abraham.
2*Abraham was the father of Isaac, and*Isaac the father of Jacob, andJacob the father of Judah and his brothers,*3*and*Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a]*4*and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon,*5*and Salmon the father of Boaz by*Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse,*6*and*Jesse the father of David the king.
And*David was the father of Solomon by*the wife of Uriah,*7*andSolomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph,*8*and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram,*and Joram the father of Uzziah,*9*and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,*10*and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos,[c]*and Amos the father of Josiah,*11*and*Josiah the father of*Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12*And after the deportation to Babylon:*Jechoniah was the father ofShealtiel,[d]*and*Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,*13*and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor,*14*and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud,*15*and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob,*16*and Jacob the father of*Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17*So all the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon to*the Christ fourteen generations.
Matthew 1 - The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah - Bible Gateway
The Gospels define Jesus.
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
Matthew 1
1*The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ,*the son of David,*the son of Abraham.
2*Abraham was the father of Isaac, and*Isaac the father of Jacob, andJacob the father of Judah and his brothers,*3*and*Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a]*4*and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon,*5*and Salmon the father of Boaz by*Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse,*6*and*Jesse the father of David the king.
And*David was the father of Solomon by*the wife of Uriah,*7*andSolomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph,*8*and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram,*and Joram the father of Uzziah,*9*and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,*10*and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos,[c]*and Amos the father of Josiah,*11*and*Josiah the father of*Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12*And after the deportation to Babylon:*Jechoniah was the father ofShealtiel,[d]*and*Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,*13*and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor,*14*and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud,*15*and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob,*16*and Jacob the father of*Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17*So all the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon to*the Christ fourteen generations.
Matthew 1 - The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah - Bible Gateway
L'il sherriloser, EVERYTHING you do is based in hate. Including your 'spreading the Gospel message' : you always do it with a PRIDEFUL gloating. It won't help, you know: you could convince millions to 'come to Christ', but after all these years I think you've realized that one conversion you most desperately desire will never come about.
I'm sure that must be ever so frustrating for you - but you've only your own self to blame. If you REALLY cared so much, you'd be working on that project before you poured your time and effort into harassing everyone else here. You're not doing anything important here, l'il sherriturdflinger.
I'm sure that must be ever so frustrating for you - but you've only your own self to blame. If you REALLY cared so much, you'd be working on that project before you poured your time and effort into harassing everyone else here. You're not doing anything important here, l'il sherriturdflinger.
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SDSU's Khaleel Mohammed looks to the Quran for his thesis: Palestine belongs to the Jews.
Jews have a wealth of sacred passages to point to when arguing for a Jewish right to Palestine. But what about the Quran (Koran)? Does it claim an equal Islamic right to Palestine?
Not according to Dr. Khaleel Mohammed. In fact, according to this professor of religious studies at SDSU, the Quran grants Jews sacred right to the land of Palestine. This controversial thesis has predictably made him few friends in the Muslim community.
Born in the South American republic of Guyana and educated at Montreal's McGill University, Dr. Mohammed believes that the Quran unambiguously says that the Holy Land belongs to the Jews. He'll go to any mosque and debate any doubting imam. He hasn't received any death threats from fanatic Muslims, but he has gotten some bitter emails. Those don't frighten or deter him from his mission: to combat the growing tide of Islamic political radicalization by teaching what the Quran actually says – not how the Islamic holy text is interpreted by imams.
"We should do everything possible to encourage… moderates like him to step forth and speak out," says Rabbi Efraim Warshaw, who runs Star Speakers, a speaker bureau that represents Dr. Mohammed. "If they are the majority in the Moslem community, as is so often claimed, America needs to hear from them and learn what they think and believe."
Jews have a wealth of sacred passages to point to when arguing for a Jewish right to Palestine. But what about the Quran (Koran)? Does it claim an equal Islamic right to Palestine?
Not according to Dr. Khaleel Mohammed. In fact, according to this professor of religious studies at SDSU, the Quran grants Jews sacred right to the land of Palestine. This controversial thesis has predictably made him few friends in the Muslim community.
Born in the South American republic of Guyana and educated at Montreal's McGill University, Dr. Mohammed believes that the Quran unambiguously says that the Holy Land belongs to the Jews. He'll go to any mosque and debate any doubting imam. He hasn't received any death threats from fanatic Muslims, but he has gotten some bitter emails. Those don't frighten or deter him from his mission: to combat the growing tide of Islamic political radicalization by teaching what the Quran actually says – not how the Islamic holy text is interpreted by imams.
"We should do everything possible to encourage… moderates like him to step forth and speak out," says Rabbi Efraim Warshaw, who runs Star Speakers, a speaker bureau that represents Dr. Mohammed. "If they are the majority in the Moslem community, as is so often claimed, America needs to hear from them and learn what they think and believe."
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Nothing in those words defining Jesus as a Zionist.
No babies targeted and killed.
No shedding of blood of a soul.
No ethnic cleansing.
No Apartheid.
No Racism.
We see no death and destruction in the genealogy of Jesus Christ.
No babies targeted and killed.
No shedding of blood of a soul.
No ethnic cleansing.
No Apartheid.
No Racism.
We see no death and destruction in the genealogy of Jesus Christ.
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Who cares about what your Zionist buddy thinks?
Jesus is life not a Zionist killer like you.
Jesus is life not a Zionist killer like you.
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The truth shall set you free:
Sheikh As'ad Shukeiri
Sheikh As'ad Shukeiri (1860-1940) (also transcribed al-Shuqayri, Shuqeiri, Shukeiry) was a Palestinian religious and political leader in Acre, Palestine and the Ottoman-appointed Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1914 to 1918, although British Mandate authorities claimed Kamil al-Husayni was the Grand Mufti. Shukeiri was pro-Ottoman, favoring that Palestine continue to be part of the Ottoman Empire and in 1908 and 1912, he was elected to the Ottoman parliament. From the latter year to 1914, he served as the deputy of the District of Acre. Afterwards, he held several posts in Palestine's religious judiciary, including librarian of the Imperial Library and member of the Sharia court in Istanbul. During World War I, he was appointed mufti of the Fourth Ottoman Army in Syria and Palestine.[1]
Shukeiri rejected the values of the Palestinian Arab nationalist movement and routinely collaborated with Zionist leaders, meeting them regularly. He had a part in every pro-Zionist Arab organization from the beginning of the British Mandate until his death in 1940 and he publicly rejected Mohammad Amin al-Husayni’s use of Islam against Zionism.
Sheikh As'ad Shukeiri
Sheikh As'ad Shukeiri (1860-1940) (also transcribed al-Shuqayri, Shuqeiri, Shukeiry) was a Palestinian religious and political leader in Acre, Palestine and the Ottoman-appointed Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1914 to 1918, although British Mandate authorities claimed Kamil al-Husayni was the Grand Mufti. Shukeiri was pro-Ottoman, favoring that Palestine continue to be part of the Ottoman Empire and in 1908 and 1912, he was elected to the Ottoman parliament. From the latter year to 1914, he served as the deputy of the District of Acre. Afterwards, he held several posts in Palestine's religious judiciary, including librarian of the Imperial Library and member of the Sharia court in Istanbul. During World War I, he was appointed mufti of the Fourth Ottoman Army in Syria and Palestine.[1]
Shukeiri rejected the values of the Palestinian Arab nationalist movement and routinely collaborated with Zionist leaders, meeting them regularly. He had a part in every pro-Zionist Arab organization from the beginning of the British Mandate until his death in 1940 and he publicly rejected Mohammad Amin al-Husayni’s use of Islam against Zionism.
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John 1
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The Word Became Flesh
1*In the beginning was*the Word, and*the Word was with God, and*the Word was God.*2*He was in the beginning with God.*3*All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.*4*In him was life,[a]*and*the life was the light of men.*5*The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
John 1 - The Word Became Flesh - In the - Bible Gateway
English Standard Version (ESV)
The Word Became Flesh
1*In the beginning was*the Word, and*the Word was with God, and*the Word was God.*2*He was in the beginning with God.*3*All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.*4*In him was life,[a]*and*the life was the light of men.*5*The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
John 1 - The Word Became Flesh - In the - Bible Gateway
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Actually if anything, according to the New Testament Jesus was a true Zionist. Most of his passion came from his love for the land of Israel and his people the Jews, and what had become of them. But of course you are too stupid and consumed with hate to see that.
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Plenty of Christians who believe the same as this Arab, unlike the impostor and abomination that you are.
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Irshad Manji
Irshad Manji, a Muslim Canadian author and an advocate of progressive interpretation of Islam, says that the Arabs' failure to accept the Jews' historical bond with Palestine is a mistake. Manji accepts that the Jews' historical roots stretch back to the land of Israel, and recognizes their right to a Jewish state. She further argues that the allegation of apartheid in Israel is deeply misleading, noting that there are in Israel several Arab political parties; that Arab-Muslim legislators have veto powers; and that Arab parties have overturned disqualifications. She also observes that Israel has a free Arab press; that road signs bear Arabic translations; and that Arabs live and study alongside Jews. She accuses Arab countries for the Palestinian refugees' plight, saying that they "interfered with every attempt to solve the problem" and that they would rather give "generous support to suicide bombers and their families" rather than help the needy refugees.[59] According to Geneive Abdo, "Muslim Zionist" is a label which Manji "would no doubt accept"
Irshad Manji, a Muslim Canadian author and an advocate of progressive interpretation of Islam, says that the Arabs' failure to accept the Jews' historical bond with Palestine is a mistake. Manji accepts that the Jews' historical roots stretch back to the land of Israel, and recognizes their right to a Jewish state. She further argues that the allegation of apartheid in Israel is deeply misleading, noting that there are in Israel several Arab political parties; that Arab-Muslim legislators have veto powers; and that Arab parties have overturned disqualifications. She also observes that Israel has a free Arab press; that road signs bear Arabic translations; and that Arabs live and study alongside Jews. She accuses Arab countries for the Palestinian refugees' plight, saying that they "interfered with every attempt to solve the problem" and that they would rather give "generous support to suicide bombers and their families" rather than help the needy refugees.[59] According to Geneive Abdo, "Muslim Zionist" is a label which Manji "would no doubt accept"
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Who is Jesus?
The Birth of Jesus Christ
18*Now the birth of*Jesus Christ[e]*took place in this way.*When his mother Mary had been betrothed[f]*to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child*from the Holy Spirit.*19*And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling*to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly.*20*But as he considered these things, behold,*an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.*21*She will bear a son, and*you shall call his name Jesus,*for he will save his people from their sins.”*22*All this took place*to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
23*“Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
****and they shall call his name*Immanuel”
(which means, God*with us).*24*When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife,*25*but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And*he called his name Jesus.
Matthew 1 - The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah - Bible Gateway
The Birth of Jesus Christ
18*Now the birth of*Jesus Christ[e]*took place in this way.*When his mother Mary had been betrothed[f]*to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child*from the Holy Spirit.*19*And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling*to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly.*20*But as he considered these things, behold,*an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.*21*She will bear a son, and*you shall call his name Jesus,*for he will save his people from their sins.”*22*All this took place*to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
23*“Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
****and they shall call his name*Immanuel”
(which means, God*with us).*24*When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife,*25*but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And*he called his name Jesus.
Matthew 1 - The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah - Bible Gateway
Since the sherriKKKins has no idea what an actual Zionist believes - even if she knew absolutely everything about Jesus, logically it remains impossible to determine if a known item matches an UNknown category.
What I know about Jesus is that he was raised in a Jewish home to follow normative mainstream Judaism of the time. And *that* included a belief that the Jewish People should live freely in their own homeland - which is the basic 'short form' of Zionism. Jesus was an itinerant rabbi who loved the Jewish people. He was almost certainly a Pharisee after the school of Hillel, looking at his positions on many issues - and yet his words on divorce align with Shammai's school.
There isn't *anything* Christians believe about Jesus which changes those aspects ....all that additional content about 'son of God' and all doesn't remove Jesus from Judaism, or from the Zionism of that day.
What I know about Jesus is that he was raised in a Jewish home to follow normative mainstream Judaism of the time. And *that* included a belief that the Jewish People should live freely in their own homeland - which is the basic 'short form' of Zionism. Jesus was an itinerant rabbi who loved the Jewish people. He was almost certainly a Pharisee after the school of Hillel, looking at his positions on many issues - and yet his words on divorce align with Shammai's school.
There isn't *anything* Christians believe about Jesus which changes those aspects ....all that additional content about 'son of God' and all doesn't remove Jesus from Judaism, or from the Zionism of that day.
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Nothing in Matthew 1 defines Jesus as a Zionist.
No shedding of the blood of the innocent.
No Child killing.
No Apartheid.
No ethnic cleansing.
No words written that define Jesus as a Zionist, no acts that define Jesus as a Zionist in Matthew 1.
No shedding of the blood of the innocent.
No Child killing.
No Apartheid.
No ethnic cleansing.
No words written that define Jesus as a Zionist, no acts that define Jesus as a Zionist in Matthew 1.
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Zionism was founded in the 18O0s.
Jesus lived 1800 years earlier.
Stop attributing Satanic man made ideologies to Jesus .
And Jesus nowhere supported Jews living in a certain place.
He actually tells His followers to leave Palestine, to go into the world and share the good news.
Jesus lived 1800 years earlier.
Stop attributing Satanic man made ideologies to Jesus .
And Jesus nowhere supported Jews living in a certain place.
He actually tells His followers to leave Palestine, to go into the world and share the good news.
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And nothing in the whorish lies above is any part of normative mainstream Zionism. Only the racists and Nazi apologists spew such slanderous lies.
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God Bless the true Christians and believers of Jesus.
Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
Moses replied, "When I have gone out of the city, I will spread out my hands in prayer to the LORD. The thunder will stop and there will be no more hail, so you may know that the earth is the LORD's." —Exodus 9:29 What a great reminder that no matter what happens, God is in control! LIKE & SHARE to say AMEN!
Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
“In the days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.” Isaiah 27:6- Hit LIKE to celebrate that the Jewish people and the nation of Israel have become a blessing to the entire world!
Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
"For the Lord your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your forefathers, which he confirmed to them by oath." Deuteronomy 4:31- LIKE to celebrate the fact that our God is a God who keeps his promises. When he says forever, he means it!
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Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
Moses replied, "When I have gone out of the city, I will spread out my hands in prayer to the LORD. The thunder will stop and there will be no more hail, so you may know that the earth is the LORD's." —Exodus 9:29 What a great reminder that no matter what happens, God is in control! LIKE & SHARE to say AMEN!
Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
“In the days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.” Isaiah 27:6- Hit LIKE to celebrate that the Jewish people and the nation of Israel have become a blessing to the entire world!
Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
"For the Lord your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your forefathers, which he confirmed to them by oath." Deuteronomy 4:31- LIKE to celebrate the fact that our God is a God who keeps his promises. When he says forever, he means it!
Christians United for Israel (CUFI)
Prayer alert – A new study by the Israel-based Institute for National Security Studies finds that Al Qaeda poses a growing threat to Israel. LIKE if you will pray for the safety of Israel’s men, women and children. SHARE and ask your friends to pray as well
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