EV Bus Explodes

[Billy_Bob]

EV battery fires simply keep reigniting. No way to put them out.

HALON foam systems are the only way to put them out. You don't want to be caught in that however.. no oxygen to breath..

 

[Weatherman2020]

HALON foam systems are the only way to put them out. You don't want to be caught in that however.. no oxygen to breath..

It’ll put it out. But 3 days later it can explode into flames again.

 

[Billy_Bob]

It’ll put it out. But 3 days later it can explode into flames again.

Kind of like white phosphorus. Once you give it back oxygen it will reignite.

 

[skookerasbil]

Kind of like white phosphorus. Once you give it back oxygen it will reignite.

Damn....these things are death traps. Like the damn Corvair in the 1960's

 

[Crick]

HALON foam systems are the only way to put them out. You don't want to be caught in that however.. no oxygen to breath..

Their are (or were) Halon extinguishers and there are foam (typically AFFF) systems. But no one ever made halon foam extinguisher systems. Halon was used as a gas similar to CO2. Foam systems typically use per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances to create foam.

 

[marvin martian]

Imagine if there were passengers inside.

But...muh global warming!

LOL

 

[Weatherman2020]

Their are (or were) Halon extinguishers and there are foam (typically AFFF) systems. But no one ever made halon foam extinguisher systems. Halon was used as a gas similar to CO2. Foam systems typically use per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances to create foam.

Fire departments can’t put them out with 5 fire trucks.

 

[Crick]

Imagine if there were passengers inside.

And no one has ever died of burns in an ICE car? Let's check.

According to the National Fire Protection Association, over a period of 10 years, the fire departments responded to approximately 2 million vehicle fires in Florida. These fires resulted in 400,000 deaths, 130,000 injured passengers, and over $10 billion in property damage.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And no one has ever died of burns in an ICE car? Let's check.

According to the National Fire Protection Association, over a period of 10 years, the fire departments responded to approximately 2 million vehicle fires in Florida. These fires resulted in 400,000 deaths, 130,000 injured passengers, and over $10 billion in property damage.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And no one has ever died of burns in an ICE car? Let's check.

According to the National Fire Protection Association, over a period of 10 years, the fire departments responded to approximately 2 million vehicle fires in Florida. These fires resulted in 400,000 deaths, 130,000 injured passengers, and over $10 billion in property damage.

Looks like ChiCom flu data. Total BS.
38,824 was the highest fatality year. Grand total, most have no fires.

2011[6]	32,479	2,950	1.10	311,588,000	10.42	-2.3%
2012[7]	33,782	2,969	1.14	313,914,000	10.75	2.6%
2013	32,893	2,988	1.10	316,129,000	10.40	-3.3%
2014	32,744	3,026	1.08	318,860,000	10.28	-1.2%
2015	35,485	3,095	1.15	321,370,000	11.06	7.6%
2016[8]	37,806	3,174	1.19	323,121,000	11.59	4.8%
2017[8][9]	37,473	3,213	1.16	326,213,213	11.40	-1.6%
2018[9][10]	36,835	3,223	1.13	327,096,265	11.18	-1.9%
2019[11]	36,355	3,248	1.10	328,231,337[12]	10.99	-1.2%
2020[13]	38,824	2,904	1.34	331,449,281[14]	11.67	7.1%
2021[15]	31,720[note 1]	3,230[16]

 

[Crick]

Fire departments can’t put them out with 5 fire trucks.

I don't deny they are difficult to put out but they are not both extremely flammable and extremely volatile as is gasoline. The problem of course is that battery development has been consistently working towards higher and higher internal energy. A lithium potassium ion battery has internal energy approaching that of dynamite. It could not do what it does if it didn't.

 

[Crick]

Looks like ChiCom flu data. Total BS.
38,824 was the highest fatality year. Grand total, most have no fires.

2011[6]	32,479	2,950	1.10	311,588,000	10.42	-2.3%
2012[7]	33,782	2,969	1.14	313,914,000	10.75	2.6%
2013	32,893	2,988	1.10	316,129,000	10.40	-3.3%
2014	32,744	3,026	1.08	318,860,000	10.28	-1.2%
2015	35,485	3,095	1.15	321,370,000	11.06	7.6%
2016[8]	37,806	3,174	1.19	323,121,000	11.59	4.8%
2017[8][9]	37,473	3,213	1.16	326,213,213	11.40	-1.6%
2018[9][10]	36,835	3,223	1.13	327,096,265	11.18	-1.9%
2019[11]	36,355	3,248	1.10	328,231,337[12]	10.99	-1.2%
2020[13]	38,824	2,904	1.34	331,449,281[14]	11.67	7.1%
2021[15]	31,720[note 1]	3,230[16]

You need to read a little more closely. The data I put up was for ten years, not one.

Wait one. The numbers I posted do NOT look valid. I suspect they may have swapped injuries and deaths. My point, however, stands. ICE cars also have significant fire risks.

 

[toobfreak]

extremely flammable and extremely volatile as is gasoline.

Have you ever tried to light gasoline? It doesn't light. It is the VAPORS which are combustible.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You need to read a little more closely. The data I put up was for ten years, not one.

I posted ten years of data.
Now have a 5 year old homeschooled kid add it for you

 

[Weatherman2020]

I don't deny they are difficult to put out but they are not both extremely flammable and extremely volatile as is gasoline. The problem of course is that battery development has been consistently working towards higher and higher internal energy. A lithium potassium ion battery has internal energy approaching that of dynamite. It could not do what it does if it didn't.

I can toss a lit cigarette in a gas can and it’ll put the cigarette out.

 

[Sunsettommy]

And no one has ever died of burns in an ICE car? Let's check.

According to the National Fire Protection Association, over a period of 10 years, the fire departments responded to approximately 2 million vehicle fires in Florida. These fires resulted in 400,000 deaths, 130,000 injured passengers, and over $10 billion in property damage.

Where is the link?

 

[skookerasbil]

And no one has ever died of burns in an ICE car? Let's check.

According to the National Fire Protection Association, over a period of 10 years, the fire departments responded to approximately 2 million vehicle fires in Florida. These fires resulted in 400,000 deaths, 130,000 injured passengers, and over $10 billion in property damage.

Lol...again...progressives just have no ability to think on the margin. It's fascinating. Unable to think outside the construct.

We don't even mention here the an EV leaves a bigger carbon footprint than an ICE vehicle....proven recently by Volvo btw....and the go up like giant roman candles

 

[badger2]

They should have not gone bulemic: individual transportation is a more intelligent approach to EV evolution. For example, the psychological rewards of having one's own recharging solar panel.

 

[Crick]

Have you ever tried to light gasoline? It doesn't light. It is the VAPORS which are combustible.

Perhaps that's why I mentioned volatility.

 

[ding]

Perhaps that's why I mentioned volatility.

Exactly. What is it that makes lithium batteries volatile?