EV battery swapping

[Captain Caveman]

I did not watch the video but if the suggestion you can swap and entire EV battery in 60 seconds that is just impossible

two guys at a jiffy lube can do what it takes trained techs at tesla dealership over and hour.......just don't buy it

has to be staged

Well -

 

[WorldWatcher]

I did not watch the video but if the suggestion you can swap and entire EV battery in 60 seconds that is just impossible

two guys at a jiffy lube can do what it takes trained techs at tesla dealership over and hour.......just don't buy it

has to be staged

The premise isn't that some guy at Jiffy Lube would be swapping out car batteries as currently installed.

The premise is that EV be designed to facilitate battery swaps as a module instead of conformal battery compartments different for each manufacturer and vehicle.

WW

 

[progressive hunter]

I did not watch the video but if the suggestion you can swap and entire EV battery in 60 seconds that is just impossible

two guys at a jiffy lube can do what it takes trained techs at tesla dealership over and hour.......just don't buy it

has to be staged

youre honestly comparing replacing a battery to changing the oil in a ICE car??

I can change a battery in less than 2 seconds on my tools,, so I dont see a problem doing it with a car when its designed to be done

 

[egp320i]

youre honestly comparing replacing a battery to changing the oil in a ICE car??

I can change a battery in less than 2 seconds on my tools,, so I dont see a problem doing it with a car when its designed to be done

not oil, the idea you an swing in and have them swap your battery in 60 seconds

um, a power tool is designed for it, you don't need to take down many bolts and does your battery weigh 2000 pounds on your corldless drill? no

apples to oranges here and smart EV cars they are NOT plug and play, they need to pair the battery to the computer

 

[progressive hunter]

not oil, the idea you an swing in and have them swap your battery in 60 seconds

um, a power tool is designed for it, you don't need to take down many bolts and does your battery weigh 2000 pounds on your corldless drill? no

apples to oranges here and smart EV cars they are NOT plug and play, they need to pair the battery to the computer

currently no you cant change in 60 seconds,,

but we arent talking about currently are we??

if designed properly it should be no problem changing one that quick,,

I wouldnt use bolts or change them by hand,,

no you may have to wait a few minutes in line if they get backed up but the changeout can be very quick

 

[egp320i]

a car battery with one click held on by plastic? would not pass DOT
in 10 years with a smaller graphine SS battery that is universal
you are still looking at 30-60 minutes, it's not a quick lube

software has to be paired, we are not talking about power tools

 

[progressive hunter]

a car battery with one click held on by plastic? would not pass DOT
in 10 years with a smaller graphine SS battery that is universal
you are still looking at 30-60 minutes, it's not a quick lube

software has to be paired, we are not talking about power tools

youre not very bright,,
I am amazed you can turn a computer on to say such an ignorant thing,,

 

[egp320i]

you are the one equating swapping a car battery pack like it's a power tool

they are not ******* plug and play......

they are nowhere close to the same so who's the not bright one here....

A Tesla battery pack typically weighs between 1,000 and 1,800 pounds depending on the specific model and its range.

this is NOT a car battery pack.....

More context:

The Realistic Timeline (3–13 Hours)​

Even though the physical unbolting might go fast, Tesla Service Centers and specialists generally quote 3 to 13 hours of labor for a full replacement. Here is what eats up that time:

• Coolant Management: The battery is connected to a complex liquid cooling system. You have to drain the glycol-based coolant before removal and, more importantly, vacuum-fill and bleed the air out of the new pack after installation. If air bubbles remain, the battery can overheat.
• High-Voltage Safety: Technicians must follow a strict "Lockout-Tagout" procedure, removing the First Responder Loop and verifying the system is de-energized before touching the main connectors.
• Software Pairing & Calibration: The car won't just "recognize" a new pack immediately. It requires a computer (Tesla's "Toolbox" software) to pair the new Battery Management System (BMS) with the car's drive unit and run a series of thermal and electrical self-tests.
• Interior Disassembly (Model Y/Cybertruck): In newer structural packs, the seats and carpet are actually bolted directly to the top of the battery. You have to gut a large portion of the interior just to reach the mounting points.

Any EV uses coolant around the battery for your heat source

swapping a battery pack is equal to replacing and ICE motor, it's not a minute...it's many hours

 

[progressive hunter]

you are the one equating swapping a car battery pack like it's a power tool

they are not ******* plug and play......

they are nowhere close to the same so who's the not bright one here....

A Tesla battery pack typically weighs between 1,000 and 1,800 pounds depending on the specific model and its range.

this is NOT a car battery pack.....

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More context:

The Realistic Timeline (3–13 Hours)​

Even though the physical unbolting might go fast, Tesla Service Centers and specialists generally quote 3 to 13 hours of labor for a full replacement. Here is what eats up that time:

• Coolant Management: The battery is connected to a complex liquid cooling system. You have to drain the glycol-based coolant before removal and, more importantly, vacuum-fill and bleed the air out of the new pack after installation. If air bubbles remain, the battery can overheat.
• High-Voltage Safety: Technicians must follow a strict "Lockout-Tagout" procedure, removing the First Responder Loop and verifying the system is de-energized before touching the main connectors.
• Software Pairing & Calibration: The car won't just "recognize" a new pack immediately. It requires a computer (Tesla's "Toolbox" software) to pair the new Battery Management System (BMS) with the car's drive unit and run a series of thermal and electrical self-tests.
• Interior Disassembly (Model Y/Cybertruck): In newer structural packs, the seats and carpet are actually bolted directly to the top of the battery. You have to gut a large portion of the interior just to reach the mounting points.

Any EV uses coolant around the battery for your heat source

swapping a battery pack is equal to replacing and ICE motor, it's not a minute...it's many hours

why are you so afraid to comment directly to me? do you hope I miss your post??

in the words of the great lazuras long,

"always listen to an expert tell you why it cant be dont then go do it"

you just told us what problems may exist and all of them are easily rectified,,

use modified zeus fasteners for the battery itself and just align the plugs and use quick disconnects for the coolant,,

you sound like a quitter,,

 

[egp320i]

why are you so afraid to comment directly to me? do you hope I miss your post??

in the words of the great lazuras long,

"always listen to an expert tell you why it cant be dont then go do it"

you just told us what problems may exist and all of them are easily rectified,,

use modified zeus fasteners for the battery itself and just align the plugs and use quick disconnects for the coolant,,

you sound like a quitter,,

if it was so easy it would be done by now

you charge your drill because it has small capacity, you don't just swap and EV battery

they last 7+ years, when they finally no longer hold a charge you replace, not just swap out

last I checked I am commenting to you, don't care if you miss my post or not
but as you responding you are not

You do understand that there are DOT regulations for a battery that is major fire hazard, right?

 

[progressive hunter]

if it was so easy it would be done by now

you charge your drill because it has small capacity, you don't just swap and EV battery

they last 7+ years, when they finally no longer hold a charge you replace, not just swap out

last I checked I am commenting to you, don't care if you miss my post or not
but as you responding you are not

You do understand that there are DOT regulations for a battery that is major fire hazard, right?

or they needed to wait until some industry standards are made,,

again those things can be easily resolved,,

youre just used to throwing your hands in the air and quitting,,

best you just step aside and let competent people do the work,,

 

[egp320i]

or they needed to wait until some industry standards are made,,

again those things can be easily resolved,,

youre just used to throwing your hands in the air and quitting,,

best you just step aside and let competent people do the work,,

LOL, building and fixing computers and cars for over 25 years, yes I know what I am doing

you understand everybody has to get together for a universal battery........WON"T happen

different sized batteries have different frames, honda, toyota, tesla, ford......

not quitting at all, it's called being realistic which you are not that you can just plug and play
and EV battery that weighs over 1000 pounds with modern computers

Even this is not a 60 second swap, not with new cars, you need to use a scanner to pair the battery

BTDT......and you need a 300 buck good scanner too

 

[The Duke]

I love predictable surprises.

Trying to push as much weight as cars are with battery packs the way they are is not really viable, IMO.
Up to a certain weight and desired speed? Sure.
But there's a threshold, just like with solar panels.
More speed and longer range means more weight.
You can even combine battery packs with solar panels and get stored power, to an extent.
Also battery packs don't work very good in the cold, and a lot of America gets cold.
My area doesn't much, but 90% or so of America does.

 

[progressive hunter]

LOL, building and fixing computers and cars for over 25 years, yes I know what I am doing

you understand everybody has to get together for a universal battery........WON"T happen

different sized batteries have different frames, honda, toyota, tesla, ford......

not quitting at all, it's called being realistic which you are not that you can just plug and play
and EV battery that weighs over 1000 pounds with modern computers

Even this is not a 60 second swap, not with new cars, you need to use a scanner to pair the battery

BTDT......and you need a 300 buck good scanner too

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based on your "give up without trying" attitude my guess is you couldnt fix a hot wheels car,,

I see no problem achieving the goal we have been discussing,,

 

[egp320i]

based on your "give up without trying" attitude my guess is you couldnt fix a hot wheels car,,

I see no problem achieving the goal we have been discussing,,

sure.......you are an electrical engineer? bullshit

I have worked on every major european car and trust me, they can be a ***** to fix

do you know SAE from metric?

not sure why this topic gives you such a boner, you are wishing for something that might not happen
if ever for the next 10+ years

maybe revisit then because right now EV's are NOT that popular, why would anybody dump $$$$
into R&D now? still premature

EV battery packs are not AA batteries you just pop in

 

[The Duke]

LOL, building and fixing computers and cars for over 25 years, yes I know what I am doing

you understand everybody has to get together for a universal battery........WON"T happen

different sized batteries have different frames, honda, toyota, tesla, ford......

not quitting at all, it's called being realistic which you are not that you can just plug and play
and EV battery that weighs over 1000 pounds with modern computers

Even this is not a 60 second swap, not with new cars, you need to use a scanner to pair the battery

BTDT......and you need a 300 buck good scanner too

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Is that a Lithium-Ion car battery?
860 CCA because they forgot the C in China?
That could work. How much is it?
I tell ya wut, when my lawnmower battery dies, I'm getting a Lithium Ion one that will outlast it by years.
If it was a motorcycle, I'd do the same thing.

 

[progressive hunter]

sure.......you are an electrical engineer? bullshit

I have worked on every major european car and trust me, they can be a ***** to fix

do you know SAE from metric?

resorting to personal attacks because you feel youre to inadequate to solve such a simple problem is a lame deflection,,

 

[The Duke]

resorting to personal attacks because you feel youre to inadequate to solve such a simple problem is a lame deflection,,

Hey, hey you guys, dial it down a notch.
What is wrong with each others' theory that y'all see?
Let's segue to that, ok?
Just the facts. Go at each other with the best presented ideas.

 

[egp320i]

no personal attack, you act like you are and EE and likely you are not unless you can prove it

if it was so simply why has nobody from toyota or honda done it YET? because there are no
universal size, they are custom made for certain vehicle

you think elon is going to share tesla tech with BMW? you are dreaming

 

[The Duke]

no personal attack, you act like you are and EE and likely you are not unless you can prove it

if it was so simply why has nobody from toyota or honda done it YET? because there are no
universal size, they are custom made for certain vehicle

you think elon is going to share tesla tech with BMW? you are dreaming

Probably has more to do with corporate monopolization.
All of them want to have thier own proprietary thing which is dominant.