European and Russians to team up to COLONIZE the Moon

[rightwinger]

I believe the government can only do so much and from there it is up to private enterprise. I was only 14 going on 15 when during the Apollo 11 mission Walter Cronkite and Arthur C Clarke sat there and made comparison to Christopher Columbus' voyage. I instantly thought a better comparison would be to Leif Ericson because I could think of nothing there on the moon that capitalist could exploit.

There is no practical reason to maintain a permanent base on the moon other than to say we did it

I thought the Mars rovers and the Pluto flyby were a better use of resources

 

[Blackrook]

The reason to establish a Moon base is because we can.

Nothing more needs to be said to people who believe exploration of space should be a top priority.

We should not make excuses that there are problems at home that need to be addressed first.

There will ALWAYS be problems.

 

[EverCurious]

Negative. The reason to establish a moon base is to extract resources necessary to build ships, which enables us to build them bigger than we could on earth due to the amount of fuel required to get past gravity. This will eventually lead to a ship that's capable of establishing a base on (they want to do mars, I think that's the wrong choice) another planet (or moon, around Jupiter is my choice, but Saturn has potential too) - then we can harvest rare gases and test faster engines. Its far enough away from the Earth that peeps won't freak out, and Jupiter and Saturn both have high enough gravity to keep it from being a danger to the solar system's orbital balance.

...sorry had a geek moment there.

 

[Gracie]

Why not stop looking for another planet to kill and destroy and instead try to fix the one we are on? Oh. Wait. Never mind.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

European and Russians to team up to COLONIZE the Moon

Obama hates space exploration, so the future in space will not belong to America. For the first time since Sputnik, America is losinig the Space Race,

And our European allies sees America as the past, and Russia as the future in space.

Another reason to hate Obama, and everything he stands for,

(deletes a joke about encouraging Muslim colonization of other worlds)

A Moon-base is a necessary first step to everything else. Mars, asteroid belt mining, etc. Most of the fuel used by existing rockets are used up just getting into low-orbit. If they can refuel at the Moon, a jaunt to Mars becomes much more feasible.

Only problem with human bases on the Moon, Mars, or in orbit is radiation. Getting a major dose away from the Earth's protective magnetic shield. Then there's the micrometeroite impact issue. Without an atmosphere (to speak of, Moon actually has one as does Mars but not in any significant way) a grain of sand is going to be going 20k MPH when it hits and makes a considerable hole in whatever. If your base isn't built with that in mind, you're gonna be chewing hard vacuum.

 

[rightwinger]

The reason to establish a Moon base is because we can.

Nothing more needs to be said to people who believe exploration of space should be a top priority.

We should not make excuses that there are problems at home that need to be addressed first.

There will ALWAYS be problems.

I appreciate space exploration, but because of the vast distances and cost prefer R2D2 to Buck Rogers

 

[Asclepias]

The reason to establish a Moon base is because we can.

Nothing more needs to be said to people who believe exploration of space should be a top priority.

We should not make excuses that there are problems at home that need to be addressed first.

There will ALWAYS be problems.

You can stick a rock up your ass too. Thats about how imperative it is we establish a moon base. Instead of fucking up other planets and moons why not fix and preserve what we have on earth first?

 

[EverCurious]

It is about preservation though, not of Earth, which is ultimately doomed no matter what we do, but preservation of Earth's species. Plus I don't think traveling to other planets precludes preserving Earth, not exactly sure why are ya'll trying to make it a "Earth" vs "other planet" argument when it's not.

European and Russians to team up to COLONIZE the Moon

Obama hates space exploration, so the future in space will not belong to America. For the first time since Sputnik, America is losinig the Space Race,

And our European allies sees America as the past, and Russia as the future in space.

Another reason to hate Obama, and everything he stands for,

(deletes a joke about encouraging Muslim colonization of other worlds)

A Moon-base is a necessary first step to everything else. Mars, asteroid belt mining, etc. Most of the fuel used by existing rockets are used up just getting into low-orbit. If they can refuel at the Moon, a jaunt to Mars becomes much more feasible.

Only problem with human bases on the Moon, Mars, or in orbit is radiation. Getting a major dose away from the Earth's protective magnetic shield. Then there's the micrometeroite impact issue. Without an atmosphere (to speak of, Moon actually has one as does Mars but not in any significant way) a grain of sand is going to be going 20k MPH when it hits and makes a considerable hole in whatever. If your base isn't built with that in mind, you're gonna be chewing hard vacuum.

Water shielding, we've proven it works, part of why we need a planet or moon that has a source of water. I'm not sure, but other liquid states could work too maybe; methane and such. Either way, we can get around the radiation. The micro thing is a problem for sure; we need to get to work on some space Kevlar - which is why we need to get a station out there to test stuff heh

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The reason to establish a Moon base is because we can.

Nothing more needs to be said to people who believe exploration of space should be a top priority.

We should not make excuses that there are problems at home that need to be addressed first.

There will ALWAYS be problems.

You can stick a rock up your ass too. Thats about how imperative it is we establish a moon base. Instead of fucking up other planets and moons why not fix and preserve what we have on earth first?

Well that would require time, money, and common sense, so obviously that's out and we should focus on the fucking moon instead.

 

[Sbiker]

European and Russians to team up to COLONIZE the Moon

Obama hates space exploration, so the future in space will not belong to America. For the first time since Sputnik, America is losinig the Space Race,

And our European allies sees America as the past, and Russia as the future in space.

Another reason to hate Obama, and everything he stands for,

Russians are european.

Only the ones on the west side of the Ural Mountains.

If Russia would be a part of Asia, it didn't fought for a centuries against asian hordes and wouldn't conquer them next.

If Russia would be a part of Europe, Europa wouldn't regularly unite to conquer Russia

 

[Blackrook]

The reason to establish a Moon base is because we can.

Nothing more needs to be said to people who believe exploration of space should be a top priority.

We should not make excuses that there are problems at home that need to be addressed first.

There will ALWAYS be problems.

You can stick a rock up your ass too. Thats about how imperative it is we establish a moon base. Instead of fucking up other planets and moons why not fix and preserve what we have on earth first?

No one cares what you think. You do not have the "Right Stuff" to be a space explorer.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Russians on the moon:
Welcome to 1969 - good to see you finally caught up!

 

[Indeependent]

The venture will fail because they are not Free Market economies.

 

[TNHarley]

So in the years to come when Earth has depleted the resources and there is overcrowding and we need
to move Americans out and the Moon has the ability to sustain life.Will the Libs say it's not fair
that Europe and Russia has taken over the Moon.One of those Moon base envy deals...

Why the moon?

Why not colonize the bottom of the Ocean?
It would cost less

sea level rise and all that lol

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Why not stop looking for another planet to kill and destroy and instead try to fix the one we are on? Oh. Wait. Never mind.

The moon is not a planet, high-speed.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The reason to establish a Moon base is because we can.

Nothing more needs to be said to people who believe exploration of space should be a top priority.

We should not make excuses that there are problems at home that need to be addressed first.

There will ALWAYS be problems.

You can stick a rock up your ass too. Thats about how imperative it is we establish a moon base. Instead of fucking up other planets and moons why not fix and preserve what we have on earth first?

Don't worry, you're part of the space exploration plan too. Every mission must have at least one black man to sacrifice himself in case things go wrong. Just think, you could be that man.

http://southpark.cc.com/clips/154851/cartmans-plan

Here's how it works.

 

[rightwinger]

So in the years to come when Earth has depleted the resources and there is overcrowding and we need
to move Americans out and the Moon has the ability to sustain life.Will the Libs say it's not fair
that Europe and Russia has taken over the Moon.One of those Moon base envy deals...

Why the moon?

Why not colonize the bottom of the Ocean?
It would cost less

sea level rise and all that lol

It would be easier to sustain a colony on the bottom of the ocean than on the moon

 

[TNHarley]

So in the years to come when Earth has depleted the resources and there is overcrowding and we need
to move Americans out and the Moon has the ability to sustain life.Will the Libs say it's not fair
that Europe and Russia has taken over the Moon.One of those Moon base envy deals...

Why the moon?

Why not colonize the bottom of the Ocean?
It would cost less

sea level rise and all that lol

It would be easier to sustain a colony on the bottom of the ocean than on the moon

I wasn't arguing. I was JS..lol

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Makes me wonder about territory and soverignity. Is the Moon like Antarctica and no man's land, or can you claim bits of the Moon as your own country's as with planting your flag?

Lotta amusing time-related questions too. Whose time zone dya use? What about religious obligations that have time-sensitive components? Like for Jews and the beginning and end of the Sabbath taking place with sundown and sun up.

"A day on the Moon lasts 29.5 of our Earth days. In other words, if you were standing on the surface of the Moon, it would take 29.5 days for the Sun to move entirely through the sky and return to its original position."
How Long is a Day on the Moon?

That's gonna make a daylong fast observance tricky.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

European and Russians to team up to COLONIZE the Moon

Obama hates space exploration, so the future in space will not belong to America. For the first time since Sputnik, America is losinig the Space Race,

And our European allies sees America as the past, and Russia as the future in space.

Another reason to hate Obama, and everything he stands for,

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