Escalating gun crime in New Zealand...but, they just banned guns....right? Didn't criminals get the message?

[2aguy]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

 

[progressive hunter]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

of course criminals got the message and why crime is going up,,

 

[2aguy]

More.....but....they confiscated guns....right?

New figures obtained by RNZ show last year had the highest rates of gun crime and deaths involving firearms for nearly 10 years.
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And in both of the last two years, the rate of deadly incidents involving a firearm was the highest it had been since 2009.

The number of guns seized by police is also on the rise, up almost 50 percent on five years earlier at 1263 last year
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The data is also broken down by region, and shows Counties Manukau is now the deadliest for gun violence in the nation, surpassing Eastern, Central and Northland for rates of gun-related deaths.

Rates of gun crimes and killings using guns at highest levels in a decade

New figures obtained by RNZ show last year had the highest rates of gun crime and deaths involving firearms for nearly 10 years.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

 

[progressive hunter]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

or you could just move there,,

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

or you could just move there,,

Nope. I'm happy where I am. You're the one whining about how bad you think it is here.

 

[2aguy]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Criminals commit gun crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who own guns do not use those guns for crime and murder, so gun control that takes guns away from them does nothing to lower the gun crime and gun murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about guns, gun owners, criminals, and human nature.

 

[2aguy]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Criminals commit gun crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who own guns do not use those guns for crime and murder, so gun control that takes guns away from them does nothing to lower the gun crime and gun murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about guns, gun owners, criminals, and human nature.

And all drug users don't rob liquor stores and murder people for money to buy drugs.

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who use drugs for recreation. Criminals commit crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who use drugs do not use those drugs as an excuse for crime and murder, so drug control that takes drugs away from them does nothing to lower the drug crime and drug murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about drugs, drug users, criminals, and human nature.


And all drunk drivers don't pass out in traffic and run over a bus load of nuns or drive through a playground at high speed.

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who use alcohol for recreation. Criminals commit crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who drink and drive do not use drinking and driving as an excuse for crime and murder, so laws that take alcohol away from drivers does nothing to lower the drunk driving crime and drunk driving murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about drunk driving, drunk drivers, criminals, and human nature.

See how easily that silly argument can be used?

 

[progressive hunter]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

or you could just move there,,

Nope. I'm happy where I am. You're the one whining about how bad you think it is here.

when did I whine,,

its you whining we should do what they are doing,,

I just think you stand a better chance at that by moving now,,, cause we aint gonna do what they are doing,, EVER,,

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

Their gun death rate is much lower than ours. We should be doing what they are doing.

 

[progressive hunter]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

Their gun death rate is much lower than ours. We should be doing what they are doing.

or you could move there and say look what we are doing,,,

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

or you could just move there,,

Nope. I'm happy where I am. You're the one whining about how bad you think it is here.

when did I whine,,

its you whining we should do what they are doing,,

I just think you stand a better chance at that by moving now,,, cause we aint gonna do what they are doing,, EVER,,

We'll see.

 

[2aguy]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who own and carry guns for self defense. Criminals commit gun crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who own guns do not use those guns for crime and murder, so gun control that takes guns away from them does nothing to lower the gun crime and gun murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about guns, gun owners, criminals, and human nature.

And all drug users don't rob liquor stores and murder people for money to buy drugs.

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who use drugs for recreation. Criminals commit crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who use drugs do not use those drugs as an excuse for crime and murder, so drug control that takes drugs away from them does nothing to lower the drug crime and drug murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about drugs, drug users, criminals, and human nature.


And all drunk drivers don't pass out in traffic and run over a bus load of nuns or drive through a playground at high speed.

And again, that has nothing to do with normal Citizens who use alcohol for recreation. Criminals commit crimes and murder....normal citizens do not. Normal citizens who drink and drive do not use drinking and driving as an excuse for crime and murder, so laws that take alcohol away from drivers does nothing to lower the drunk driving crime and drunk driving murder rate.

That you don't understand this simple but true fact, shows you really don't understand anything about drunk driving, drunk drivers, criminals, and human nature.

See how easily that silly argument can be used?

Nice dodge, but you didn't do anything to help your cause.

You morons want to take guns away from law abiding gun owners and say this will lower the gun crime rate....I have shown you over and over again that this is wrong and stupid, not supported by facts and data.....yet you still cling to it showing this isn't about reality....this is about irrational thought processes from a left wing extremist.

 

[2aguy]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

Their gun death rate is much lower than ours. We should be doing what they are doing.

Their gun death rate has nothing to do with normal citizens owning and carrying guns....as the U.S. experience shows...our gun crime rates went down 75%, our gun murder rate went down 49%, and even our violent crime rate went down 72% as more, not fewer, Americans own and carry guns.

Now today, with this New Zealand Article....they banned guns.....gun crime is increasing.......normal Kiwis turned in their guns, and yet their gun crime rate is going up, not down.

Why?

Australia is dumping gun criminals into Kiwi Land.......

It isn't the guns, it is the criminals....if you weren't an irrational fool you would understand that.

 

[progressive hunter]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

or you could just move there,,

Nope. I'm happy where I am. You're the one whining about how bad you think it is here.

when did I whine,,

its you whining we should do what they are doing,,

I just think you stand a better chance at that by moving now,,, cause we aint gonna do what they are doing,, EVER,,

We'll see.

we're waiting,,

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

Their gun death rate is much lower than ours. We should be doing what they are doing.

Their gun death rate has nothing to do with normal citizens owning and carrying guns....as the U.S. experience shows...our gun crime rates went down 75%, our gun murder rate went down 49%, and even our violent crime rate went down 72% as more, not fewer, Americans own and carry guns.

Now today, with this New Zealand Article....they banned guns.....gun crime is increasing.......normal Kiwis turned in their guns, and yet their gun crime rate is going up, not down.

Why?

Australia is dumping gun criminals into Kiwi Land.......

It isn't the guns, it is the criminals....if you weren't an irrational fool you would understand that.

If their crime rates, specifically their gun crime rates, mean nothing, then why do you keep posting about it? dumb ass

 

[2aguy]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

New Zealand vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

Rape rate, Crime levels, Intentional homicide rate, Murder rate per million people, Murder rate and 91 More Interesting Facts and Stats

www.nationmaster.com

View attachment 432284

And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

Their gun death rate is much lower than ours. We should be doing what they are doing.

Their gun death rate has nothing to do with normal citizens owning and carrying guns....as the U.S. experience shows...our gun crime rates went down 75%, our gun murder rate went down 49%, and even our violent crime rate went down 72% as more, not fewer, Americans own and carry guns.

Now today, with this New Zealand Article....they banned guns.....gun crime is increasing.......normal Kiwis turned in their guns, and yet their gun crime rate is going up, not down.

Why?

Australia is dumping gun criminals into Kiwi Land.......

It isn't the guns, it is the criminals....if you weren't an irrational fool you would understand that.

If their crime rates, specifically their gun crime rates, mean nothing, then why do you keep posting about it? dumb ass

Moron.....I know you don't want to discuss this honestly, since all you care about is hating gun owners.

I post about the stupidity of taking guns away from law abiding people who own guns and do not use them for gun crime or murder.

You don't care about law abiding people protecting themselves from criminals, you hate the fact that they own guns and could care less about criminals attacking them.

 

[BULLDOG]

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

The as predicted Australian crime wave & its ramifications on NZ | The Daily Blog

thedailyblog.co.nz

They don't kill nearly as many as us. We should do what they are doing.

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And you ignore the part where it says "increasing gun crime," even after they have banned guns.......showing that banning guns does nothing to stop criminals.

Their gun death rate is much lower than ours. We should be doing what they are doing.

Their gun death rate has nothing to do with normal citizens owning and carrying guns....as the U.S. experience shows...our gun crime rates went down 75%, our gun murder rate went down 49%, and even our violent crime rate went down 72% as more, not fewer, Americans own and carry guns.

Now today, with this New Zealand Article....they banned guns.....gun crime is increasing.......normal Kiwis turned in their guns, and yet their gun crime rate is going up, not down.

Why?

Australia is dumping gun criminals into Kiwi Land.......

It isn't the guns, it is the criminals....if you weren't an irrational fool you would understand that.

If their crime rates, specifically their gun crime rates, mean nothing, then why do you keep posting about it? dumb ass

Moron.....I know you don't want to discuss this honestly, since all you care about is hating gun owners.

I post about the stupidity of taking guns away from law abiding people who own guns and do not use them for gun crime or murder.

You don't care about law abiding people protecting themselves from criminals, you hate the fact that they own guns and could care less about criminals attacking them.

You're getting dumber by the day. I've had guns since I was given my first .410 for Christmas in 62. Wanting common sense gun control is not the same as coming for your guns, dumb ass.

 

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So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.

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This fails as an ad hoc fallacy.