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End of Oil is at our door step; what next?

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elektra

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Any true conservatives would marvel at the idea of solar panels. You people are nothing but investors.

For y'all, the term future only applies to the next 3 quarters on Wall Street.
Why would we marvel at something that is simply a waste of Money?

Wall St. You do realize that the billions of tons of raw materials used to make solar panels is bought and sold on Wall street. Commodities that were in low demand, next to worthless have gone up in price a thousand percent, on Wall St.

You ignorantly make Wall St investors richer, and unwittingly think solar is some sort of utopian product you can wrap your ideology around and be free of guilt.

Honestly, you are as dumb as they get.
 

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Coming from a fossil fuel troll , the ultimate compliment.
Thanks, bro.
Yep, you are dumb, solar panels increase the profits to oil companies. Oil companies sell billions of tons of their products to Solar panel manufactures and you stupidly don't see it.

Solar panels are a
New Market, Democrats say it will cost $100 trillion in tax payer money.

Troll? I present facts to your dumb ass, you reply by calling me a troll for oil companies, you go as far to tag me in a troll thread thinking you are getting even?

Solar panel supporters can not debate, for one they are not educated and it appears very lazy if not outright stupid.
 

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Yep, you are dumb,

Troll? I present facts to your dumb ass, .... not educated and it appears very lazy if not outright stupid.
You probably work for China,.
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This has everything to do with my] posts.....not.
Denial fits you nicely. You claim others are profiting from trade with China while the elephant in the room is solar panels made in China.

You even posted pics of Chinese solar panels.

Denial, you wear it well
 

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Oil Update
Not all is lost. There are industries who know what needs to be done and are doing it. China is out front on this. China knows what is coming and is actively enacting policies to address this before a wave of panic overwhelms their society.

China to ban all petrol and diesel cars
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 38726.html
China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/busin ... 105462466/
China to plow $361 billion into renewable fuel by 2020 | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKBN14P06P
German electric cars
Telekom, a large European telecommunications company headquartered in Germany, confirmed that they are putting in place a massive plan to more than double the current electric car charging infrastructure by converting their distribution boxes. The company is in the process of updating 12,000 distribution boxes in their network in Germany.
A spokesperson told the German business newspaper Automobilwoche that they plan to build charging stations out of those distribution boxes – including 500 100-kW fast-charging stations.
The rest will be level 2 charge points capable of a charge rate up to 22 kW.
With around 10,800 public charge points in Germany at the moment, the plan alone would double the current charging infrastructure in the country.

https://electrek.co/2018/03/05/electric ... ion-boxes/

As of 2017, BMW had installed more than 65,000 charging poles scattered across more than 90 Chinese cities, in cooperation with the four major Chinese charging network operators, including Qingdao Teld New Energy.
China is the host of the world’s largest public charging network for electric vehicles, with a total of more than 440,000 charging poles in the country, including 213,903 public charging poles and 231,820 private charging poles.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2018/03/26/bmw-t ... -in-china/

The USA is not doing nothing-----

Gigafactory Texas is an automotive manufacturing facility near Austin, Texas, under construction by Tesla, Inc. since July 2020. Tesla aims to have first production before the end of 2021 and volume production in 2022. The factory is planned to be the main factory for the Tesla Cybertruck and the Tesla Semi. Wikipedia
:)-
 

watchingfromafar

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Oil Update
Not all is lost. There are industries who know what needs to be done and are doing it. China is out front on this. China knows what is coming and is actively enacting policies to address this before a wave of panic overwhelms their society.

China to ban all petrol and diesel cars
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 38726.html
China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/busin ... 105462466/
China to plow $361 billion into renewable fuel by 2020 | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKBN14P06P
German electric cars
Telekom, a large European telecommunications company headquartered in Germany, confirmed that they are putting in place a massive plan to more than double the current electric car charging infrastructure by converting their distribution boxes. The company is in the process of updating 12,000 distribution boxes in their network in Germany.
A spokesperson told the German business newspaper Automobilwoche that they plan to build charging stations out of those distribution boxes – including 500 100-kW fast-charging stations.
The rest will be level 2 charge points capable of a charge rate up to 22 kW.
With around 10,800 public charge points in Germany at the moment, the plan alone would double the current charging infrastructure in the country.

https://electrek.co/2018/03/05/electric ... ion-boxes/

As of 2017, BMW had installed more than 65,000 charging poles scattered across more than 90 Chinese cities, in cooperation with the four major Chinese charging network operators, including Qingdao Teld New Energy.
China is the host of the world’s largest public charging network for electric vehicles, with a total of more than 440,000 charging poles in the country, including 213,903 public charging poles and 231,820 private charging poles.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2018/03/26/bmw-t ... -in-china/

The USA is not doing nothing-----

Gigafactory Texas is an automotive manufacturing facility near Austin, Texas, under construction by Tesla, Inc. since July 2020. Tesla aims to have first production before the end of 2021 and volume production in 2022. The factory is planned to be the main factory for the Tesla Cybertruck and the Tesla Semi. Wikipedia
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Toddsterpatriot

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All the more reason we should have diversified in the 70's and 80's, you know like when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House.......things could have been much different.

You're right, but the China Syndrome made liberals wet their pants.

China would be purchasing our solar panels for one thing instead of the other way arouind.

Meh. Useful amounts of reliable nuclear energy would be much better than tiny amounts of unreliable solar. It's almost like liberals don't understand anything about economics.
 

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At the risk of wasting my time, what is next is the creation of more financial paper and the subsequent manipulation of the trade value thereof. They're gonna try to collaterize nature itself and they're gonna try to sell it off as shares by some natural asset company.

Think of intangibles like energy produced by storm systems or whatever other natural phenomenon. It'll all be up for grabs. But...do see any of my previous dialogue with regard to weather derivatives around here. Because it's relevant.

Additionally, and largely forgotten, is that all of those derivatives from the '08 crash are still out there floating around everywhere. But that goes a little deper into the scheme of things, as there actually is an interest in making all of that bad paper good to some extent.


Anyway. Here's a relevant read...

Wall Street's Diabolical Plan to Financialize all of Nature


Engdahl? LOL!

But...do see any of my previous dialogue with regard to weather derivatives around here. Because it's relevant.

Why? What did a weather derivative ever do to you? Why are they worrisome?

Additionally, and largely forgotten, is that all of those derivatives from the '08 crash are still out there floating around everywhere.

Some are, some aren't. So what?

But that goes a little deper into the scheme of things, as there actually is an interest in making all of that bad paper good to some extent.

Derivatives are bad paper? How so?

 
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If Alaska gets the right to drill more oil we could end up with $10/BBL oil and a lot of enemies. There went my wife's position in Chevron.

Doesn't matter what the price per barrel costs. Last year, oil was negative dollars per barrel. We were still paying over $2 a gallon at the pump.

Only a fool believes oil is the future of anything.

Well here's a newsflash for the oil fools. All of the major automotive manufacturers are going 100% all electric vehicles, by the middle of the next decade.

Apparently they aren't being fooled. But look at the bright side oil fools. You just may get that $10 per barrel.
 

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Considering my age and that of my offspring I offer you kiddies a heartfelt "FUCK YOU". You voted for this eco-madness and you and your git are going to pay for it.

I salute you in song:

 

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Summary Table as of 2017
Oil Reserves
1,650,585,140,000 barrels
Oil Consumption
35,442,913,090
barrels per year
97,103,871 barrels per day
Reserves/Consumption
47 (years left)

World Oil Statistics - Worldometer
(Data shown in the table is for 2016. Counter shows current estimate.)
I am bewildered to watch people jump up and down to create renewables because of climate change when at the same time oil reserves are running out too.
I find it ironic that both goals have the same end in mind.
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End of Oil is at our door step; what next?


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