Elon Musk and the Nazi Salute

Don't read it then, see if I care.

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What has a political "leaning" go to do with science? As you can see, it is well regarded as to factual reporting unlike Leon Skum's Twitter.
The fact it has a political bias is proof enough. It also suggests yours. Which also matches your views here on this board.

You can report facts all you want to. But if you have to skew them one way or another to suit a political preference, they cease becoming facts altogether. If you add any political flavor to facts that suit your political biases, they stop being facts but affirmations.
 
What if I told you that "establishment" extends beyond politics into the scientific realm?
I say it was a vacuous statement, meaningless.
It's that same kind of McCarthyism that caused Elon to abandon the left. He was left, by the way. And until then, he was admired and eschewed by scientists everywhere. Until he chose to change his mind.
He's dismissed by most scientists today because he's a crank, he thinks we can live on mars, he's anti vaccine - anti science and he has you fooled.
Science is about the ability to theorize, postulate, hypothesize, experiment, and formulate views based on findings and available facts and data.
Sad that Musk never understood that.
But what these scientists do here is instead of evaluating the data, they ignore it, instead choosing to run away.
I have no idea what you are now talking about, who has "run away"?
So, do you believe in actual science, or science which affirms your biases?
If you want to my opinions within the realm of the natural science just ask me something about the natural sciences.

Musk applauds a man who still lies about winning the 2020 election. He is aligned with people who are anti-science and anti-intellectual. He retweets anti vaccine bullshit and he disparages climate researcher and climate change.

He's a scientific non entity, never published a science paper in his life and really not taken seriously by real engineers or scientists only by the uneducated cultists of whom there are many these days.
 
The fact it has a political bias is proof enough. It also suggests yours. Which also matches your views here on this board.
Proof of what exactly? Any journal that refuses to publish crap by people like RFK and other anti-intellectual and anti-science trumpanzees is likely to be labelled "left".
You can report facts all you want to. But if you have to skew them one way or another to suit a political preference, they cease becoming facts altogether. If you add any political flavor to facts that suit your political biases, they stop being facts but affirmations.
What facts do you think I have skewed?
 
oh noes.......more nazi salute:rolleyes:


Mein Swifter!


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Don't read it then, see if I care.
Of the sites the Byline cited in the article, one of them was CBS. They are a mainstream leftist media organization. They skew almost far left. They also cited NPR, CNN, the Verge, and Politico, all of which are virulently far left. It does not even attempt to cite right-leaning sites like Fox News or the like. Further indicating its left skew, it reports the main contingent of scientists leaving the platform being "environmental science," a main pillar of leftist ideology. It goes so far as to take a dig at the billionaire class, suggesting it favors the view that billionaires have undue control over society.

Also, these scientists are unhappy because they no longer get to dictate public discourse on the sciences. Because they can't arbitrarily fact-check claims by other people. One of the scientists goes as far as to complain that "Musk obliterated their (X's) capacity to moderate." Wehehell, they have only themselves to blame for that.

It was precisely due to the act of over-moderation on Twitter that led to its obliteration. It was noticeably abused and noticeably done away with. Musk replaced moderators with "community notes" allowing the people to moderate themselves.

So as you can see, I see through these scientists. You are the one licking their boots. That screen I took was to show you it leans left. Any site can report facts well, it's the context around those facts that suggests bias or not.
 
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I mean look, they'll be claiming these are Nazi salutes next, I mean the left, they just can't resist exaggeration can they. Just like Musk these guys are just elated, exuberant and overjoyed with the reactions of the crowds.

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A Wisconsin school district announced in a letter to parents last week that it wouldn’t discipline dozens of boys who appeared to make a Nazi salute in a staged photo taken before last year’s junior prom. After a local newspaper wrote about the decision, the same outraged group of internet users that made the photo viral in recent weeks questioned the decision.


You just don't get this provocative use of a fascist salute in other countries, the only places I've seen it since WW2 is here in the USA, Croatia and Ukraine.

The US is descending into fascism, and the rest of the planet is watching it.
 
I say it was a vacuous statement, meaningless.
Afraid? Why lash out so?

He's dismissed by most scientists today because he's a crank, he thinks we can live on mars, he's anti vaccine - anti science and he has you fooled.
If he didn't believe in science, SpaceX itself wouldn't exist. He's a physics major you know. All of his space goals are rooted in established science.

And yes, we can live on Mars. If we can send men to the moon, we can send them to Mars. Remind me not to consult you about the concept of human ingenuity in the future. Musk was a pioneer until he chose to disabuse himself from the McCarthyite wing of the scientific community.

Sad that Musk never understood that.
I'm sure he does. Hence SpaceX. He's the one launching rockets and people into space. You are launching epithets and screeds at him because of his stances.

You drastically underestimate him because you're afraid to take him at true face value. You're entitled to do it, but it makes you look like a fringe leftist in the process.

If you want to my opinions within the realm of the natural science just ask me something about the natural sciences.

"Natural science?"

The would presumably include sciences that deal with our universe, no? Well then, I think Elon Musk has you outclassed there too. It takes a vast understanding of the natural sciences to even step one foot into the space industry.

Musk applauds a man who still lies about winning the 2020 election. He is aligned with people who are anti-science and anti-intellectual. He retweets anti vaccine bullshit and he disparages climate researcher and climate change.
And you see yourself as an intellectual?

How mighty arrogant and narcissistic of you. You know, Nikola Tesla was dismissed with the same screeds back in his day, but only because his grasp of the sciences exceeded that of public understanding. And you sir, share this lack of public understanding when you criticize Elon Musk, not for becoming the foremost pioneer in the space industry, but because of where he stands on political issues.

How quaint. Bravo.
 
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Listen to some Jews

When I cited the ADL to you, you wouldn't listen to those Jews. Didn't you just get through calling them hypocrites? Or are you more of an anti-semite than you let on? I guess only certain Jew's opinions matter to you.

But of course.
 
Effin Nazii that he is. The nerve of the guy to render a Nazi salute for everyone to see..

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Oh, wait...


The media, as is its want, lost what little of it's collective mind that it had when Musk expressed some heartfelt gratitude to the crowd. Yet they were silent -- at least I don't remember them saying anything about these people tossing out Nazi salutes -- the left did the same.
Yet another example of the lies the Right will tell to support their ideology. The truth is – those photos are actually “freeze frames” taken as those top Democrats were waving their hands.

Truth : Obama, Clinton, Harris, Warren did not give Nazi salute!

This is yet another example of fake news involving Elon Musk, and here are the reasons why…

They were not giving the Nazi salute

Let me start by simply pointing out that top Democrats like Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren, did not give any Nazi salute.

If they actually gave a Nazi salute, it would have been widely reported, and sparked widespread condemnation. Needless to say – there was zero media coverage, and no outrage – not because there was a cover-up, but because it was made up.

Unsurprisingly, none of those who shared these photos, actually provided any evidence that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, or Elizabeth Warren, were actually giving a Nazi salute.

When people ask these folks to share the original videos for context, they outright refused. Why do you think that is?
 

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