Electric vehicles close to ‘tipping point’ of mass adoption

[westwall]

I know that thinking is difficult for connedservatives.

Try pondering the effects of fossil fuel extraction and burning. See if you "think" that southern WV is worse off with the mountaintops removed and the streams poisoned.

You have to remove mountain tops to get your lithium, and samarium, and all of the other rare earth's you require for EV's.

Your EV production demolishes far more of the environment than oil production does.

 

[westwall]

Sounds like the road to a high tech economy.
You might prefer burning dung.....try India.

Yup. Perfect place for this loon.

 

[daveman]

How are they not practical? They work just fine.

If you don't have to go very far, have charging stations handy, and can afford the inevitable battery replacement.

 

[Old Rocks]

You have to remove mountain tops to get your lithium, and samarium, and all of the other rare earth's you require for EV's.

Your EV production demolishes far more of the environment than oil production does.

Once again, you are one foolish liar. The biggest source of lithium at present is in deserts in South America. The biggest reserve of lithium found thus far in the US is in a caldera on the Nevada-Oregon border.

 

[Old Rocks]

If you don't have to go very far, have charging stations handy, and can afford the inevitable battery replacement.

You continue to prove that you absolutely know nothing about what you post about. There are many EV's now coming on the market with ranges between 300 and 400 miles.

Electric Cars with the Longest Driving Range, Ranked

These 2023 model-year battery-electric cars can travel the farthest on a full charge.

www.caranddriver.com

And there are cars coming from Asia that will also have long ranges.

Xpeng P7 Now Officially The Longest Range EV Made In China

Xpeng Motors' new all-electric sports sedan, the P7, was officially named the longest-range electric vehicle currently made in China by the MIIT.

insideevs.com

 

[Old Rocks]

If you don't have to go very far, have charging stations handy, and can afford the inevitable battery replacement.

Also, the LFP batteries are rated to last close to a million miles, whether they are BYD's blade batteries or Tesla's 4680 batteries. One can charge the car off their house electricity, and even use solar to make their own electricity, powering the house and vehicle. Of course the idea of a middle income individual keeping all the money that he works for, instead of spending it at gas stations and giving it to utilities just frosts the agates of you "Conservatives". No one is supposed to be independent of the fossil fuel oligarchs.

 

[westwall]

Once again, you are one foolish liar. The biggest source of lithium at present is in deserts in South America. The biggest reserve of lithium found thus far in the US is in a caldera on the Nevada-Oregon border.

You imbecile, that's lithium. What about all of the others you one dimensional buffoon

 

[LuckyDuck]

So..progress..as always..being driven by consumer demand:

Electric vehicles close to âtipping pointâ of mass adoption

Sales increase 43% globally in 2020 as plunging battery costs mean the cars will soon be the cheapest vehicles to buy

www.theguardian.com

In a poll of electric car owners, 91% said they would not want to return to petrol.

Electric vehicles are close to the “tipping point” of rapid mass adoption thanks to the plummeting cost of batteries, experts say.
Global sales rose 43% in 2020, but even faster growth is anticipated when continuing falls in battery prices bring the price of electric cars dipping below that of equivalent petrol and diesel models, even without subsidies. The latest analyses forecast that to happen some time between 2023 and 2025.
The tipping point has already been passed in Norway, where tax breaks mean electric cars are cheaper. The market share of battery-powered cars soared to 54% in 2020 in the Nordic country, compared with less than 5% in most European nations.

Transport is a major source of carbon emissions and electric cars are vital in efforts to fight the climate crisis. But, while they are already cheaper to run, their higher purchase price is a barrier to mass uptake. The other key factor is “range anxiety”, but this week the first factory production began of batteries capable of giving a 200-mile charge in five minutes.

I watched a video on how to fill up an electric car and how long it takes to do it. It's not worth the aggravation. Hours to fill up with a 250 volt and days with a 120 volt output. Compare that with a couple of minutes and you're on your way with a gas powered car and the electric car can't compare. Then there's the battery drain on electric cars in cold weather.
Iceland has Hydrogen Powered cars. They can be fueled in minutes, like a gas powered car and have a similar mileage. All it needs to fuel them is H2O electrolysis and the emission is water.

 

[Old Rocks]

You imbecile, that's lithium. What about all of the others you one dimensional buffoon

But you did not post one mountain top lithium mine. Could that be because there are none?

australian lithium mine - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[Old Rocks]

I watched a video on how to fill up an electric car and how long it takes to do it. It's not worth the aggravation. Hours to fill up with a 250 volt and days with a 120 volt output. Compare that with a couple of minutes and you're on your way with a gas powered car and the electric car can't compare. Then there's the battery drain on electric cars in cold weather.
Iceland has Hydrogen Powered cars. They can be fueled in minutes, like a gas powered car and have a similar mileage. All it needs to fuel them is H2O electrolysis and the emission is water.

OK, hours to fully charge on the same circuit as your drier. In your garage. While you are sleeping. What a terrible prospect! LOL 80% charge in about 30 to 45 minutes on a supercharger, about 15 minutes with the newer batteries. Hydrogen is nearly as inefficient as gas and diesel. Hardly worth the effort.

"The hydrogen produced has to be compressed, chilled and transported to the hydrogen station, a process that is around 90% efficient. Once inside the vehicle, the hydrogen needs converted into electricity, which is 60% efficient. Finally the electricity used in the motor to move the vehicle is is around 95% efficient.Jun 3, 2020"

Hydrogen cars won’t overtake electric vehicles because they’re hampered by the laws of science

Everyone loves the idea of H2 cars, but they come with a huge disadvantage.

theconversation.com

 

[Old Rocks]

You imbecile, that's lithium. What about all of the others you one dimensional buffoon

Well, since the lithium iron phosphate battery looks to be the up and coming choice, because of longevity, rate of charging, and cost, perhaps you would care to show mountain top mining for phosphates and iron. LOL

 

[westwall]

Also, the LFP batteries are rated to last close to a million miles, whether they are BYD's blade batteries or Tesla's 4680 batteries. One can charge the car off their house electricity, and even use solar to make their own electricity, powering the house and vehicle. Of course the idea of a middle income individual keeping all the money that he works for, instead of spending it at gas stations and giving it to utilities just frosts the agates of you "Conservatives". No one is supposed to be independent of the fossil fuel oligarchs.

Bullshit TESLA RATES THEM AT UNDER 200,000

Well, since the lithium iron phosphate battery looks to be the up and coming choice, because of longevity, rate of charging, and cost, perhaps you would care to show mountain top mining for phosphates and iron. LOL

The Motors require samarium, among other rare earth's you imbecile. As usual you only look at one part of the equation like the uneducated baboons are.

 

[daveman]

You continue to prove that you absolutely know nothing about what you post about. There are many EV's now coming on the market with ranges between 300 and 400 miles.

Electric Cars with the Longest Driving Range, Ranked

These 2023 model-year battery-electric cars can travel the farthest on a full charge.

www.caranddriver.com

And there are cars coming from Asia that will also have long ranges.

Xpeng P7 Now Officially The Longest Range EV Made In China

Xpeng Motors' new all-electric sports sedan, the P7, was officially named the longest-range electric vehicle currently made in China by the MIIT.

insideevs.com

You buy what you want. Feel all good about yourself. I don't care.

But don't you tell me what I have to buy, what's best for me.

 

[daveman]

Also, the LFP batteries are rated to last close to a million miles, whether they are BYD's blade batteries or Tesla's 4680 batteries. One can charge the car off their house electricity, and even use solar to make their own electricity, powering the house and vehicle. Of course the idea of a middle income individual keeping all the money that he works for, instead of spending it at gas stations and giving it to utilities just frosts the agates of you "Conservatives". No one is supposed to be independent of the fossil fuel oligarchs.

What a retard. Electric cars aren't free. Electricity isn't free. Solar panels damn sure ain't free.

But you think a middle income individual will get to keep all the money he makes if he drives an electric car?

What a retard.

 

[daveman]

Well, since the lithium iron phosphate battery looks to be the up and coming choice, because of longevity, rate of charging, and cost, perhaps you would care to show mountain top mining for phosphates and iron. LOL

You sure are full of rosy, optimistic predictions.

You buy what you want. I'll do the same.