Electric Police cars are sucking..

[Donald H]

"The pro-gun lobby expresses quite often.......that the police won't protect them, so they need to carry their own guns."
No one says that. What IS said is that since police can't be everywhere, you need to have the ability to protect yourself.

Thanks Ralph, same thing.
And there are likely a dozen more ways of saying the same thing.
YOU'RE GOING TO THE MOON ED NORTON!

 

[BlackSand]

I invented one of these for the best of both worlds. We forgot to put the horse diaper on
Thanks to the poster who found this....copyright protected

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Bless your heart ... That ain't a horse ...

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And the predictable surprises just keep coming.

 

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Can't get to the damned crime scene....kinda a bit important I'd say...

Drrrrrr

Electric police cars struggle to reach emergencies without running out of power

Liberal ideas are fabulous for one thing: making our world more dangerous. Anywhere you look....a clusterfuck.

They should add a diesel generator to their electric police vehicles to keep them charged.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

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Bless your heart ... That ain't a horse ...

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Donkey? You know that was really important and worthwhile. You put so much in that. Brilliant

 

[Desperado]

Lights and sirens turn out to be a bigger draw on the batteries than they first thought

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Can't get to the damned crime scene....kinda a bit important I'd say...

Drrrrrr

Electric police cars struggle to reach emergencies without running out of power

Liberal ideas are fabulous for one thing: making our world more dangerous. Anywhere you look....a clusterfuck.

LIberals are called idealist for a reason.
And that is why you can't have liberals making decisions on practical matters

 

[BlackSand]

Donkey? You know that was really important and worthwhile. You put so much in that. Brilliant

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Sorry ... I live in a rural area and when someone says a cow or ox is a horse or a donkey ...
You just have to give them a little smack talk ...

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[Rogue AI]

Dunno how much you know about the military, but serving in the US Navy isn't as "low risk" as you might think. There is lots of equipment onboard that can seriously injure a person if it's not used right, as well as the danger of possibly going over the side of the ship in various circumstances.

And, working on the flight deck of a carrier is probably one of the most dangerous work environments on the planet.

'Low risk' is due to battle position. We haven't faced naval engagements since WWII. Every service has dangerous moving parts and accidents. If we return to naval engagements every ship is the front line, making it more dangerous for each sailor than ground forces that are spread from the line of battle to the rear echelon. It is in no way an attempt to denigrate the Navy.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I know quite a bit about ships and the US navy. Statistically speaking, they're very safe jobs and an easy meal ticket for those who can't hold down a good paying job on civvy street. Of course there are some exceptions that can be easily avoided by those seeking a meal ticket.

You might know things about the U.S. Navy and ships from reading about it, but to actually live it is a very different situation. Statistically speaking they are very safe jobs? Really? Ever had to evacuate a ship because of a main space fire? How about fighting a fire while at sea? Ever had to deal with being in the middle of a storm where there are 30 ft seas? How about dealing with tying up a ship, with the very real possibility of a line snapping? Safe jobs? Peacetime Navy isn't "safe" like you seem to think it is, and if a ship is serving in hostile waters, it gets even more interesting. As far as being an "easy meal ticket", you might wanna reconsider your stance on that one. Out of all the people in the U.S. who are enlistment age eligible to serve, only 30 percent can actually pass the physical and entry screening. You must be one of those idiots who think that if all else fails, you can just join the military. Well, sorry, but you can't, as you have to meet physical requirements, score a certain amount on the ASVAB (and if you didn't finish high school, you've gotta at least have a GED and score at least 50 on the ASVAB. H.S. graduates only need around 35 to qualify for enlistment). As far as being able to hold down good paying jobs? Most military personnel who have served, or are serving honorably are probably better qualified, smarter, and in better physical condition than most civilians running around right now. Me? I've probably got more qualifications than most civilians right now, as in addition to my normal job of Personnelman (which was personnel, HR, payroll, and accounting for all personnel on the ship), I was also qualified and served as a Physical Fitness Coordinator (civilian equivalent of a physical trainer), Drug and Alcohol Program Specialist (counselor for those with substance abuse problems), fire fighting both at sea and inport (and fighting a fire at sea is different than fighting one on shore), Security Force (basically base police, and was qualified to carry a 9mm while on patrol), as well as other things. My last tour, I ran a Military Entrance Processing station with 5 personnel working for me, and we were responsible for making sure everyone was qualified and shipped off to boot camp for a huge area around Amarillo which covered parts of New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma and the entire TX panhandle. If a civilian was to hold the position I did at MEPS, they would be getting 150,000 to 200,000/yr for being a top level supervisor. So, take your bullshit about the military and the Navy being "easy". If it was so "easy", more than just 1 percent of American adults would be doing it. And, that's before we start talking about the mental stress of being away from family and the USA while on deployment (which happens every 18 months for a 6 month period on average during a normal sea tour). And, if a person "is just seeking a meal ticket", they won't last past their first enlistment, as their evaluation marks would reflect their lackluster attitude, and they wouldn't qualify for reenlistment.

 

[ABikerSailor]

'Low risk' is due to battle position. We haven't faced naval engagements since WWII. Every service has dangerous moving parts and accidents. If we return to naval engagements every ship is the front line, making it more dangerous for each sailor than ground forces that are spread from the line of battle to the rear echelon. It is in no way an attempt to denigrate the Navy.

You're right, peacetime service in the Navy is considered "low risk" for being in the military, but it is still way more dangerous than your average person working as a clerk, cashier, or many other civilian jobs. Working construction might be as dangerous as the peacetime Navy, as both have to deal with various things and lots of heavy equipment and repair. Same with the other services.

 

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Everyone should be driving an EV.

 

[skookerasbil]

LIberals are called idealist for a reason.
And that is why you can't have liberals making decisions on practical matters

Indeed...put liberals in charge of anything and soon after...it's a fuckfest.

 

[AZrailwhale]

A bigger factor that's not being mentioned very much is that the police don't want to be there. Police officers, as with the military, want a reasonably low risk job too.

Seeing that you’ve never risked your valuable hide even for your society, you have no room to complain.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I know quite a bit about ships and the US navy. Statistically speaking, they're very safe jobs and an easy meal ticket for those who can't hold down a good paying job on civvy street. Of course there are some exceptions that can be easily avoided by those seeking a meal ticket.

You don’t know a damned thing about the military. Enlist in the very safe, non-confrontational Canadian military, serve a term and while we still won’t respect you or your opinions, you will at least have some frame of reference for the daily sacrifices service members make to protect your cowardly, worthless ass. Until then shut up.

 

[Donald H]

You don’t know a damned thing about the military. Enlist in the very safe, non-confrontational Canadian military, serve a term and while we still won’t respect you or your opinions, you will at least have some frame of reference for the daily sacrifices service members make to protect your cowardly, worthless ass. Until then shut up.

You've made it quite obvious that you know less then me and any other adults about the military. If you consider yourself an adult, then act your age. Telling others to shut up is childish, spoiled brat behaviour.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You've made it quite obvious that you know less then me and any other adults about the military. If you consider yourself an adult, then act your age. Telling others to shut up is childish, spoiled brat behaviour.

Not for nothing Donald, but your post that you wrote about people in the military looking for cushy jobs is bullshit. I served over 20 years in the Navy, and can tell you that most of the people there aren't looking for a "cushy meal ticket", as the work is hard, the job is taxing, and the hours can suck on occasion. Not only that, you don't get paid for overtime, no matter how much you have to work as all military are on a salary, and their base pay is based on their rank. Like I said before, if being in the military was so easy, more than just 1 percent of the population in this country would be doing it, but they aren't because of the work. And yeah, being in the Navy is a hell of a lot more dangerous than most civilian jobs out there, as well as can be a pain in the ass because of deployments. I'm telling you that you know nothing about the Navy other than what you've read in books or heard from others, because it was reflected in your posts.

 

[Donald H]

Not for nothing Donald, but your post that you wrote about people in the military looking for cushy jobs is bullshit. I served over 20 years in the Navy, and can tell you that most of the people there aren't looking for a "cushy meal ticket", as the work is hard, the job is taxing, and the hours can suck on occasion. Not only that, you don't get paid for overtime, no matter how much you have to work as all military are on a salary, and their base pay is based on their rank. Like I said before, if being in the military was so easy, more than just 1 percent of the population in this country would be doing it, but they aren't because of the work. And yeah, being in the Navy is a hell of a lot more dangerous than most civilian jobs out there, as well as can be a pain in the ass because of deployments. I'm telling you that you know nothing about the Navy other than what you've read in books or heard from others, because it was reflected in your posts.

There are exceptions but the bulk of the jobs are meal tickets for those who can't pull down anywhere near the money on civvy street.

You may find the Navy very scary but statistically it's about as *safe as an office job sailing a desk.

*subject to change without notice during the current war.

 

[ABikerSailor]

There are exceptions but the bulk of the jobs are meal tickets for those who can't pull down anywhere near the money on civvy street.

You may find the Navy very scary but statistically it's about as *safe as an office job sailing a desk.

*subject to change without notice during the current war.

Again, you are showing how little you know about the Navy, or even the military in general. "For those who can't pull down anywhere near the money on civvy street"? Really? When I was running a MEPS in Amarillo, like I said, I was responsible for putting in people in a large part of the country (parts of NM, CO, OK, and the entire TX panhandle), had 5 people working for me, and my boss was all the way down in San Antonio. I was working as a top level supervisor while at the MEPS, and my position would have gotten me 150,000 to 200,000/year if I was working for a civilian company. What did the military pay me? Base pay plus what the Navy determined was appropriate living expenses, which came out to around 35,000/year. And, I know of LOTS of people who left the Navy to pursue careers in the civilian world because they could make twice what they were pulling down in the military, due mainly to the training they had received. Engineering types (those that keep the ship operating) are better trained and more qualified than many of their counterparts in the civilian world. Same with most other jobs in the Navy, as there was a huge amount of cross training that was REQUIRED. And, as far as being unable to qualify for jobs in the civilian world, like I said, out of all the 18 to 35 year old people in this country, only 30 percent are qualified to join the military. And, only 1 percent of this country's population have actually decided to join and serve. NO. The military is not a meal ticket for people who can't get a job anywhere else, as you have to meet some pretty stringent requirements just to join. "Safe as an office job job sailing a desk"? How many civilian desks do you know of that routinely deal with heavy seas? Me? I've been in many storms with 30 ft seas (and walking around the ship when it rolls 25 to 30 deg can be really interesting), and have been in seas as high as 90 ft (that was above the Arctic Circle in Feb, spray was coming up over the bow of the carrier, and managed to freeze an A6 to the deck, which was 90 ft above the water). Not to mention the very real possibility of a fire while out on the water (a fire at sea is dangerous as hell, and you can't run away from it, because there is only water around the ship). Take your bullshit elsewhere, because you know NOTHING about serving in the Navy. Qualify for enlistment, do a sea tour, and then get back to me. I'm betting your attitude would be greatly changed.

 

[Donald H]

Again, you are showing how little you know about the Navy, or even the military in general. "For those who can't pull down anywhere near the money on civvy street"? Really? When I was running a MEPS in Amarillo, like I said, I was responsible for putting in people in a large part of the country (parts of NM, CO, OK, and the entire TX panhandle), had 5 people working for me, and my boss was all the way down in San Antonio. I was working as a top level supervisor while at the MEPS, and my position would have gotten me 150,000 to 200,000/year if I was working for a civilian company. What did the military pay me? Base pay plus what the Navy determined was appropriate living expenses, which came out to around 35,000/year.

Was that over 20 years ago? That base pay including free room and board would be as much or more than most Americans can earn on civvy street even today.

Tradesmen coming out of the military are limited in their knowledge to the particular job they were assigned to.

Take your bullshit elsewhere, because you know NOTHING about serving in the Navy. Qualify for enlistment, do a sea tour, and then get back to me. I'm betting your attitude would be greatly changed.

I've been in 30 foot seas in my 40' sailboat. The danger was in the fear or in not preparing the boat to handle it. I have a friend whose boat was rolled end for end a couple of times he thinks, in Cape rollers.