Election Reform and the Spoiler Effect

[JoeB131]

I'm sure you do. You're a loyal party member!

Actually, I get tired of seeing Fringe characters like Alan Keyes and Tulsi Gabbard on the primary stage, too.

 

[JoeB131]

And I'm sure you don't. But others are more thoughtful, and they're fed up with your shitshow.

Actually, it's quite the opposite. Most of the places that have tried RCV are now looking to get rid of it.

 

[dblack]

Actually, I get tired of seeing Fringe characters like Alan Keyes and Tulsi Gabbard on the primary stage, too.

Too bad.

 

[dblack]

Actually, it's quite the opposite. Most of the places that have tried RCV are now looking to get rid of it.

Nope. Only the R and D loyalists. Because it undermines their control. Again, too bad.

 

[JoeB131]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4613679-the-ranked-choice-voting-fad-is-finally-ending/

A statewide repeal effort of ranked-choice is underway in Alaska. It took only one statewide ranked-choice election for citizens to begin circulating petitions to get rid of the measure.

Alaskans’ reasons for rejecting ranked choice voting are numerous. To start, 11 percent of the ballots in Alaska in 2022 were “spoiled” due to voter confusion under ranked-choice — more than three times the normal rate. During the state’s special at-large congressional election, nearly 15,000 Alaskans had their ballots thrown out. This included more than 11,000 tossed because voters selected only one candidate without ranking any others. When that candidate was eliminated, their votes were eliminated as well.

To avoid this, ranked-choice tries to force voters to “vote against their conscience, or even vote for their opponent, to ensure that their ballot does not end up in a landfill.” To put it another way, ranked-choice manufactures phony majorities by coercing voters into ranking candidates they do not actually support.

A statewide repeal effort of ranked-choice is underway in Alaska. It took only one statewide ranked-choice election for citizens to begin circulating petitions to get rid of the measure.

Alaskans’ reasons for rejecting ranked choice voting are numerous. To start, 11 percent of the ballots in Alaska in 2022 were “spoiled” due to voter confusion under ranked-choice — more than three times the normal rate. During the state’s special at-large congressional election, nearly 15,000 Alaskans had their ballots thrown out. This included more than 11,000 tossed because voters selected only one candidate without ranking any others. When that candidate was eliminated, their votes were eliminated as well.

To avoid this, ranked-choice tries to force voters to “vote against their conscience, or even vote for their opponent, to ensure that their ballot does not end up in a landfill.” To put it another way, ranked-choice manufactures phony majorities by coercing voters into ranking candidates they do not actually support.

 

[dblack]

The duopoly drones are squirming. I love it. We the people have had enough of their horseshit.

 

[JoeB131]

Welp, looks like Ranked-Choice voting has been defeated in Alaska.

Repeal of Alaska’s ranked choice pulls ahead, as election results continue to come in

Ballot Measure 2 was behind by 1% in early election night results, despite the campaign being outspent 100-to-1.

alaskapublic.org

It was on the ballot in four states.

Colorado Prop 131 - Defeated.

Proposition 131: Colorado voters reject ranked-choice voting, election overhaul

Colorado voters on Tuesday rejected Proposition 131, which would have upended the way elections are conducted in the state and moved the state to a ranked-choice voting system.

www.denverpost.com

Idaho Proposition 1 - Defeated.

Idaho voters reject Prop 1, the open primaries and ranked-choice voting ballot initiative • Idaho Capital Sun

The Proposition 1 ballot initiative was trailing in partial, unofficial election results released by the Idaho Secretary of State's Office.

idahocapitalsun.com

DC approved it. -

DC voters approve Initiative 83, AP projects

Ballot proposal Initiative 83 will bring ranked choice voting and semi-open primaries to local elections.

www.wusa9.com

Nevada rejected it.

Nevada voters reject open primaries, ranked choice voting system • Nevada Current

Nevada voters rejected a proposed move to an open primary and ranked choice voting election system, a reversal from two years ago when they supported it. As of late Tuesday, unofficial election results showed 57% in support and 43% opposed. The Associated Press called the race for ‘no.’ In 2022...

nevadacurrent.com

This stupidity is coming to an end.

 

[dblack]

Welp, looks like Ranked-Choice voting has been defeated in Alaska.

Repeal of Alaska’s ranked choice pulls ahead, as election results continue to come in

Ballot Measure 2 was behind by 1% in early election night results, despite the campaign being outspent 100-to-1.

alaskapublic.org

It was on the ballot in four states.

Colorado Prop 131 - Defeated.

Proposition 131: Colorado voters reject ranked-choice voting, election overhaul

Colorado voters on Tuesday rejected Proposition 131, which would have upended the way elections are conducted in the state and moved the state to a ranked-choice voting system.

www.denverpost.com

Idaho Proposition 1 - Defeated.

Idaho voters reject Prop 1, the open primaries and ranked-choice voting ballot initiative • Idaho Capital Sun

The Proposition 1 ballot initiative was trailing in partial, unofficial election results released by the Idaho Secretary of State's Office.

idahocapitalsun.com

DC approved it. -

DC voters approve Initiative 83, AP projects

Ballot proposal Initiative 83 will bring ranked choice voting and semi-open primaries to local elections.

www.wusa9.com

Nevada rejected it.

Nevada voters reject open primaries, ranked choice voting system • Nevada Current

Nevada voters rejected a proposed move to an open primary and ranked choice voting election system, a reversal from two years ago when they supported it. As of late Tuesday, unofficial election results showed 57% in support and 43% opposed. The Associated Press called the race for ‘no.’ In 2022...

nevadacurrent.com

This stupidity is coming to an end.

Yep. The two-headed monster prevails. The fear machine worked again!

Enjoy your President Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

Yep. The two-headed monster prevails. The fear machine worked again!

Enjoy your President Trump.

Not my president.

Unfortunately, other people will suffer.

I'll probably be fine. I'm white, male, heterosexual and cisgender.

I worry more about the 70% of the population that doesn't fall into that category.

but Apathy won.

Not to worry, the Libertarian Child got 0.4% of the vote and came in behind the Crazy Brainworm guy who withdrew.

When you lose to a guy who isn't even running, it's time to pack it in.

 

[dblack]

Not my president.

Totally yours. Every idiot fuck who supports the two party death spiral is responsible.

Unfortunately, other people will suffer.

That is unfortunate. Dipshits like you should take the brunt of it.

 

[JoeB131]

Totally yours. Every idiot fuck who supports the two party death spiral is responsible.


That is unfortunate. Dipshits like you should take the brunt of it.

nope. Less than 2% pissed away their votes on third parties...

Your guy lost to a guy who wasn't even running. Man, that has to hurt.

 

[Donald H]

Not my president.

Unfortunately, other people will suffer.

I'll probably be fine. I'm white, male, heterosexual and cisgender.

I worry more about the 70% of the population that doesn't fall into that category.

but Apathy won.

Not to worry, the Libertarian Child got 0.4% of the vote and came in behind the Crazy Brainworm guy who withdrew.

When you lose to a guy who isn't even running, it's time to pack it in.

Trump will be quietly given his marching orders by the military Joe. He's too far off America's ongoing quest for global hegeomony and he's as much as guaranteed that he will interfere in your war against Russia. I wouldn't expect the MIC establishment will allow him to sit on the throne for very long. But still, he could bring a new consciousness to America that it has to join the rest of the world.

The working class are going to get fkd in royal style befitting, but it's not as if they haven't been bending over waiiting for it.

We'll discuss some of the different aspects of what this means for your country in the coming days.

 

[dblack]

nope. Less than 2% pissed away their votes on third parties...

Your guy lost to a guy who wasn't even running. Man, that has to hurt.

LOL - I'll hold up the virtues of libertarians over your duopoly douchebags any day. Trump is your President. The system you fight to protect produced him. You and your cronies own this.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump will be quietly given his marching orders by the military Joe. He's too far off America's ongoing quest for global hegeomony and he's as much as guaranteed that he will interfere in your war against Russia. I wouldn't expect the MIC establishment will allow him to sit on the throne for very long. But still, he could bring a new consciousness to America that it has to join the rest of the world.

The working class are going to get fkd in royal style befitting, but it's not as if they haven't been bending over waiiting for it.

We'll discuss some of the different aspects of what this means for your country in the coming days.

No, Russian Troll, we probably won't.

or if we do, I hope you study your Amerika Briefing book so you know what you are talking about.

As for Trump and Ukraine, He may well sell Ukraine out. It will be the most craven surrender since the Munich Conference, but he'll do it.

 

[Donald H]

As for Trump and Ukraine, He may well sell Ukraine out. It will be the most craven surrender since the Munich Conference, but he'll do it.

He'll try but I don't have your confidence that he will be allowed to succeed.

We'll have a closer look and a discussion on the question in a few days.

A book store in Parksville, B.C. this morning:

Our post apocalyptic fiction has been moved to our current affairs section.

 

[fncceo]

Lurking at the heart of our extreme political dysfunction is a fundamentally flawed election process.

It seems to work fine when a fake pandemic isn’t facilitating massive ballot stuffing.

President Trump proved that last night.

 

[JoeB131]

LOL - I'll hold up the virtues of libertarians over your duopoly douchebags any day. Trump is your President. The system you fight to protect produced him. You and your cronies own this.

Yawn, guy, the system was picked by the people.

Meanwhile, your candidate lost to a coatrack.

 

[dblack]

It seems to work fine when a fake pandemic isn’t facilitating massive ballot stuffing.

President Trump proved that last night.

LOL - if you think our election system is working fine, I'd like some of what you're smoking. Must be good shit.

 

[dblack]

Yawn, guy, the system was picked by the people.

Enjoy your President Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

Enjoy your President Trump.

Duly noted that you have nothing to add to the conversation.

Here's the thing. The "We hate government crowd" all showed up for Trump, not Chase the Coatrack.