Egyptian Airliner goes missing over Mediterranean

[RoshawnMarkwees]

There are no muslims in Egypt and muslims are never terrorists so this is obviously not a terrorist event. Anyone suspecting so would have to be an islamaphobe.

But...but..lots of Muslims in Paris where the flight originated. Ah, but they're probably the peace loving ones who just want to get on with life in Gay Paree, keep their wives' facial hair neatly trimmed, and enjoy robust sex lives with their goats when not praying to Allah.

Well, the religion of peace only produces a tiny 10% of these murderers.....so it's not all that much of a problem. What's 10% of 1.2 billion?

Some estimates suggest only 5% of 1.6 billion. That only makes 80 million terrorists. Nothing to worry about there, eh?
It's about the same as if all of the people in New York City, Chicago and greater Los Angeles committing and abetting terrorism in the name of Americanism. Americans in general would have no moral responsibility in stoping that, right? Anyone who would disparage Americans over that would be an America-phobe , a bigot.
I don't think so.

 

[waltky]

U.S. Navy sendin' P-3 Orion surveillance aircraft to help search for Flight 804...

Navy Sub-Hunting Aircraft Joins Search for EgyptAir Wreckage
May 19, 2016 | A U.S. Navy P-3 Orion surveillance aircraft joined the search Thursday over the Mediterranean for EgyptAir Flight 804 which went missing on a Paris to Cairo flight, the Pentagon said.

The P-3, flying out of Naval Air Station Sigonella in Italy, was the only U.S. military asset involved in the search thus far, said Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook. The U.S. did not have any ships in the area and there were no immediate plans to send any, Cook said. "At this point, it's just the aircraft that's involved," he said at a Pentagon briefing. The four-engine turboprop planes made by Lockheed Martin Corp. have been maritime surveillance and submarine hunting workhorses for the Navy for decades. The aircraft features a distinctive tail antenna, or "MAD Boom," for the underwater magnetic detection of submarines and other objects below the surface.

EgyptAir Vice Chairman Ahmed Adel told CNN that what was believed to be the plane's wreckage had been found in the Mediterranean about 160 miles north of the Egyptian coast. He said the search and rescue operation was on the verge of "turning into a "search and recovery" mission. The signal from the EgyptAir Airbus A320 carrying 66 passengers and crew was lost at about 2:30 a.m. early Thursday local time as it began its approach to Cairo. None of the passengers were listed on terror watch lists and three security officials were on board the aircraft, according to CNN.

Cook declined to speculate on whether terrorism may have been involved but said U.S. law enforcement agencies were in contact with the Egyptians. Egyptian Civil Aviation Minister Sharif Fathi said technical failures and terror are both possible explanations for the disappearance of the aircraft. "But if you analyze this situation properly, the possibility of having a different action aboard, of having a terror attack, is higher than having a technical problem," Fathi said.

Navy Sub-Hunting Aircraft Joins Search for EgyptAir Wreckage | Military.com

 

[waltky]

Egyptian army finds wreckage of Flight 804...

Egyptian army says EgyptAir flight 804 wreckage found
May 20, 2016 - The Egyptian army said wreckage from EgyptAir Flight 804 was found 180 miles from the Egyptian coastal city of Alexandria on Friday. It comes after reports that debris from the jet was found Thursday turned out to be incorrect. EgyptAir said the army had informed it of the find.

"EGYPTAIR sincerely conveys its deepest sorrow to the families and friends of the passengers onboard Flight MS804," the airline tweeted. Planes and ships resumed the search for the wreckage Friday after the jet turned wildly and crashed into the Mediterranean Sea with 66 people aboard the previous day. Egyptian army spokesman Brig. Gen. Mohammed Samir said in a statement posted on his Facebook page Friday that Egyptian planes and navy vessels found “personal belongings of the passengers and parts of the plane debris.” He said a recovery process was under way. EgyptAir said airline officials met with relatives of the passengers and crew at a hotel near Cairo International Airport to inform them of the situation.

The Egyptian Armed Forces have informed EGYPTAIR that they have found first debris from the missing aircraft operating flight MS804 #MS804
— EGYPTAIR (@EGYPTAIR) May 20, 2016

"The presidency with utmost sadness and regret mourns the victims on aboard the EgyptAir flight who were killed after the plane crashed in the Mediterranean on its way back to Cairo from Paris," the office of Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi said in a statement, according to CNN. The Airbus A320, which took off from Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris bound for Cairo International Airport, had 56 passengers and 10 crew members on board when it vanished from radar around 2:45 a.m. Cairo time. The plane went down about 175 miles from Egypt's coastline after making a sudden 90-degree turn to the left and then doing a full, 360-degree spin to the right, according to Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos.

There were reports Thursday that debris from the flight had been recovered near the Greek island of Karpathos, but Greek officials later announced that "an assessment of the finds showed that they do not belong to an aircraft." Egyptian officials said three French and three British investigators and an Airbus expert arrived in Cairo to help investigate the crash, the Associated Press reported. Commander Marius Tzannis, the deputy spokesman of the Hellenic National Defense General Staff, told CNN that a Greek frigate was pulled out of the search Friday. He said that Greece still has a military plane in area and others on standby on the islands of Crete and Karpathos. Egyptian Civil Aviation Minister Sherif Fathi said the possibility of a terror attack as the cause of the crash of flight MS804 is "higher than that of a technical error,” Egypt's state-run newspaper Al-Ahram reported.

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[dannyboys]

South America is a better proposition ...nowadays!

Hopefully not to Socialist Utopia Venezuela. If so better bring your own toilet paper.

 

[dannyboys]

Various governments have 24/7 'Eyes and ears' on every square inch of the Med sea.
The 'ears' can detect the sound of a whale breaching. The 'eyes' follow literally anything bigger than a canoe that moves over the water.
The eyes and ears detected two simultaneous event in the exact location the airliner disappeared from radar: A bright flash and the sound of an explosion.
The plane had been stopping for fuel and cleanout at a number of countries where dozens of airport employees had access to the interior of the plane.
A radical muslim hide an explosive device near/in the tail section. Later someone with a hidden detonator in a wrist watch boarded the plane up to a few days later somewhere.
BOOM!
The intent was to further destroy Egypt's tourism industry.
The wreckage is about a mile and a half deep. The 'black box' is sending out signals. Due to the extreme cold water temperature the black box's battery life will be lessened.
These are the facts.

 

[Mindful]

There's speculation of some weird 'cockpit activity".

 

[Divine Wind]

There's speculation of some weird 'cockpit activity".

Filler. The hazard of 24 hour news on multiple channels.

If a bomb blew out one of the cargo compartments and damaged hydraulics or control lines, you might see "weird cockpit activity" as the pilots attempt to regain control of the aircraft.

It's possible the cockpit was penetrated by terrorists, but more likely a bomb damaged the aircraft and the pilots were simply trying to maintain control of a severely damaged aircraft.

 

[Divine Wind]

Various governments have 24/7 'Eyes and ears' on every square inch of the Med sea.
The 'ears' can detect the sound of a whale breaching. The 'eyes' follow literally anything bigger than a canoe that moves over the water.
The eyes and ears detected two simultaneous event in the exact location the airliner disappeared from radar: A bright flash and the sound of an explosion.
The plane had been stopping for fuel and cleanout at a number of countries where dozens of airport employees had access to the interior of the plane.
A radical muslim hide an explosive device near/in the tail section. Later someone with a hidden detonator in a wrist watch boarded the plane up to a few days later somewhere.
BOOM!
The intent was to further destroy Egypt's tourism industry.
The wreckage is about a mile and a half deep. The 'black box' is sending out signals. Due to the extreme cold water temperature the black box's battery life will be lessened.
These are the facts.

It's a fact a bomb was in the tail section and detonated with a wrist watch?

 

[Tilly]

Various governments have 24/7 'Eyes and ears' on every square inch of the Med sea.
The 'ears' can detect the sound of a whale breaching. The 'eyes' follow literally anything bigger than a canoe that moves over the water.
The eyes and ears detected two simultaneous event in the exact location the airliner disappeared from radar: A bright flash and the sound of an explosion.
The plane had been stopping for fuel and cleanout at a number of countries where dozens of airport employees had access to the interior of the plane.
A radical muslim hide an explosive device near/in the tail section. Later someone with a hidden detonator in a wrist watch boarded the plane up to a few days later somewhere.
BOOM!
The intent was to further destroy Egypt's tourism industry.
The wreckage is about a mile and a half deep. The 'black box' is sending out signals. Due to the extreme cold water temperature the black box's battery life will be lessened.
These are the facts.

It's a fact a bomb was in the tail section and detonated with a wrist watch?

I heard that mentioned yesterday on ? BBC news as a distinct possibility. But only that.

 

[Divine Wind]

Various governments have 24/7 'Eyes and ears' on every square inch of the Med sea.
The 'ears' can detect the sound of a whale breaching. The 'eyes' follow literally anything bigger than a canoe that moves over the water.
The eyes and ears detected two simultaneous event in the exact location the airliner disappeared from radar: A bright flash and the sound of an explosion.
The plane had been stopping for fuel and cleanout at a number of countries where dozens of airport employees had access to the interior of the plane.
A radical muslim hide an explosive device near/in the tail section. Later someone with a hidden detonator in a wrist watch boarded the plane up to a few days later somewhere.
BOOM!
The intent was to further destroy Egypt's tourism industry.
The wreckage is about a mile and a half deep. The 'black box' is sending out signals. Due to the extreme cold water temperature the black box's battery life will be lessened.
These are the facts.

It's a fact a bomb was in the tail section and detonated with a wrist watch?

I heard that mentioned yesterday on ? BBC news as a distinct possibility. But only that.

It probably was a bomb. That's the easiest way to take out an airliner.

 

[Mindful]

There's speculation of some weird 'cockpit activity".

Filler. The hazard of 24 hour news on multiple channels.

If a bomb blew out one of the cargo compartments and damaged hydraulics or control lines, you might see "weird cockpit activity" as the pilots attempt to regain control of the aircraft.

It's possible the cockpit was penetrated by terrorists, but more likely a bomb damaged the aircraft and the pilots were simply trying to maintain control of a severely damaged aircraft.

I did say, speculation. Which is all it can be at this stage, till the black box is located.

 

[dannyboys]

There's speculation of some weird 'cockpit activity".

Filler. The hazard of 24 hour news on multiple channels.

If a bomb blew out one of the cargo compartments and damaged hydraulics or control lines, you might see "weird cockpit activity" as the pilots attempt to regain control of the aircraft.

It's possible the cockpit was penetrated by terrorists, but more likely a bomb damaged the aircraft and the pilots were simply trying to maintain control of a severely damaged aircraft.

It is NOT physically possible under ANY circumstance that ANY terrorist "penetrated the cockpit". Those days are LONG GONE!.......Unless the terrorists were the pilots.
If that were the case there would have been ZERO point in detonating an explosive device.

 

[dannyboys]

Various governments have 24/7 'Eyes and ears' on every square inch of the Med sea.
The 'ears' can detect the sound of a whale breaching. The 'eyes' follow literally anything bigger than a canoe that moves over the water.
The eyes and ears detected two simultaneous event in the exact location the airliner disappeared from radar: A bright flash and the sound of an explosion.
The plane had been stopping for fuel and cleanout at a number of countries where dozens of airport employees had access to the interior of the plane.
A radical muslim hide an explosive device near/in the tail section. Later someone with a hidden detonator in a wrist watch boarded the plane up to a few days later somewhere.
BOOM!
The intent was to further destroy Egypt's tourism industry.
The wreckage is about a mile and a half deep. The 'black box' is sending out signals. Due to the extreme cold water temperature the black box's battery life will be lessened.
These are the facts.

It's a fact a bomb was in the tail section and detonated with a wrist watch?

As a matter of FACT yes.

 

[Mindful]

Also worth noting.

No group has yet has claimed responsibility; which it tends to do in these tragic events.

Airbus, in the past, experienced no end of technical failures, teething problems etc.

 

[dannyboys]

Also worth noting.

No group has yet has claimed responsibility; which it tends to do in these tragic events.

Airbus, in the past, experienced no end of technical failures, teething problems etc.

The 320 is almost 30 years old.
The first few years yes there were 'teething problems' but then the 320 earned a reputation for being one of the safest commercial planes ever made.
The problem in this case is the number of airport employees in the ME countries who have access to the plane's interior.
God knows who some of them are.
It only takes a couple of Islamofascists to blow up a plane.

 

[Mindful]

Also worth noting.

No group has yet has claimed responsibility; which it tends to do in these tragic events.

Airbus, in the past, experienced no end of technical failures, teething problems etc.

The 320 is almost 30 years old.
The first few years yes there were 'teething problems' but then the 320 earned a reputation for being one of the safest commercial planes ever made.
The problem in this case is the number of airport employees in the ME countries who have access to the plane's interior.
God knows who some of them are.
It only takes a couple of Islamofascists to blow up a plane.

The weakness is in the baggage handlers and aircraft interior cleaners. In European airports too.

There's also the chance of psycho pilots, as in German Wings.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Lol !

Both the pilot and copilot's name is Muhhammed !

 

[Mindful]

Lol !

Both the pilot and copilot's name is Muhhammed !

You don't have to be a Moslem to lose it.

Again, I refer to the severely depressed German pilot.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Distress call is now being reported to be received by the Egyptian military.

Terrible way to die. Sheer terror for your final moments.

Very sad

That is exactly why I quit flying many years ago. I won't take any risk, no matter how small, to die that way.

hm, do you travel by ship between continents or towards UK?

It took me quite awhile to figure this out, but sinking with the ship would mean a lot of the same terror as going down in a plane, so I finally decided no ships either. lol

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Debris field covers 40 Sq miles. Can anyone impact cause one that large or only an in flight explosion?