Education Secretary Linda McMahon announces mass layoffs at Dept. of Education - 50% of workforce

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Most teachers who send their kids to private schools have a spouse with a significant income so they do not have to live in the school district where they live. When I moved to Kentucky, I was able to live in the district where I worked only in one of the 11 years. Because my wife and I were happy with the schools where we lived, my kids all attended public schools. Some people are forced to live in their own school districts for other reasons. When I taught in Florida, every teacher's kids attended our high school as did two of mine.

The majority of democrats grift is hidden under the guise of the poor.

 

[marvin martian]

Love this. Let's abolish it completely.

That's coming soon.

McMahon's job is undertaker.

 

[jc456]

What reflexive "NOPE"? I had evaluation metrics that measured what I did as a teacher and everyone was fine with that. The old saying with regard to evaluations, would you measure your dentist's abilities on how many cavities his patients have?

The thing that teachers and unions oppose is saying, well you class didn't achieve metric A and B on their standardized tests and you failed to make them do that, so you are obviously a bad teacher and need more training, although you have been doing the same thing for 10 years with good results. Another year of their preforming poorly, and you will be fired. That shit doesn't fly when you cannot control their home life.

then why are all the testing scores the lowest from anytime? Common core sucked dick

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They gave up phonics, they gave up multiplication tables, they went with strategies that confused both students and parents unless they had masters degrees.

Those strategies are NOT the standards. Those were curriculums purchased by school districts because their teachers did not know how to teach. I never taught with a prepackaged curriculum to meet the standards. We did our own and never had a problem. I had many teacher friends who quit rather than teach using some of those bird-brained strategies. My own grandkid put up with that crap in Washington state until my son got fed up and moved back east. Our schools in Kentucky kept our same curriculum and did just fine. My other grandkids there had no problems with the curriculum.

Again, you are confusing pedagogy, (how something is taught) by a curriculum, (how it is taught instructionally), and standards (which is what you are teaching them in the first place.)

An example of an Algebra standard is: The student will be able to calculate simple interest on a loan.

Do you find anything wrong with that?

I taught that exact same standard for 8 years in Florida. It was in The NCTM Standards, The Sunshine State Standards, and Common Core Standards. We used them all over that period. I then taught Common Core in Kentucky and then shifted to ACT standards-based Kentucky's replacement for Common Core. Nothing changed over my 21-year career except the name.

 

[jc456]

Those strategies are NOT the standards. Those were curriculums purchased by school districts because their teachers did not know how to teach. I never taught with a prepackaged curriculum to meet the standards. We did our own and never had a problem. I had many teacher friends who quit rather than teach using some of those bird-brained strategies. My own grandkid put up with that crap in Washington state until my son got fed up and moved back east. Our schools in Kentucky kept our same curriculum and did just fine. My other grandkids there had no problems with the curriculum.

Again, you are confusing pedagogy, (how something is taught) by a curriculum, (how it is taught instructionally), and standards (which is what you are teaching them in the first place.)

An example of an Algebra standard is: The student will be able to calculate simple interest on a loan.

Do you find anything wrong with that?

I taught that exact same standard for 8 years in Florida. It was in The NCTM Standards, The Sunshine State Standards, and Common Core Standards. We used them all over that period. I then taught Common Core in Kentucky and then shifted to ACT standards-based Kentucky's replacement for Common Core. Nothing changed over my 21-year career except the name.

so wait, are you saying that the DOE didn't do anything?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

then why are all the testing scores the lowest from anytime? Common core sucked dick

No, it did not. It was basically the NCTM standards for math, given another name. You obviously are confusing standards and curriculum like most other people. I explained it further in previous posts.

 

[konradv]

Before anyone asks, yes, this is what we voted for.

Education Secretary Linda McMahon said that mass layoffs—nearly 50 percent—are just a first step toward eliminating the Department of Education and returning power to the states and the parents.

Linda McMahon: Mass Layoffs at Education Department Are Just the First Step to Returning Power to Parents

Education Secretary Linda McMahon said that mass layoffs—nearly 50 percent—are just a first step tow

redstate.com

I can already feel America getting stupider!

 

[jc456]

No, it did not. It was basically the NCTM standards for math, given another name. You obviously are confusing standards and curriculum like most other people. I explained it further in previous posts.

parents couldn't help their kids that's how insanely stupid it was. give me a break.

 

[martybegan]

Those strategies are NOT the standards. Those were curriculums purchased by school districts because their teachers did not know how to teach. I never taught with a prepackaged curriculum to meet the standards. We did our own and never had a problem. I had many teacher friends who quit rather than teach using some of those bird-brained strategies. My own grandkid put up with that crap in Washington state until my son got fed up and moved back east. Our schools in Kentucky kept our same curriculum and did just fine. My other grandkids there had no problems with the curriculum.

Again, you are confusing pedagogy, (how something is taught) by a curriculum, (how it is taught instructionally), and standards (which is what you are teaching them in the first place.)

An example of an Algebra standard is: The student will be able to calculate simple interest on a loan.

Do you find anything wrong with that?

I taught that exact same standard for 8 years in Florida. It was in The NCTM Standards, The Sunshine State Standards, and Common Core Standards. We used them all over that period. I then taught Common Core in Kentucky and then shifted to ACT standards-based Kentucky's replacement for Common Core. Nothing changed over my 21-year career except the name.

You have to realize I live in NYC, so every left leaning teaching method of the week ends up being used here.

All that technical stuff is nice, but my issue is from my friends who are parents, the end users, and their confusion over some of the crap they see in their kids homework. Every once and a while a new doozy passes through my facebook feed.

You have to realize that most people care about the end product, not the terms the people making said product use to define the components of making it.

When you flush your toilet, you don't care about the diameter and sloping of the pipe that takes it to the treatment plant, nor if the plant uses activated sludge, Membrane bio-reactors, or rotating biological contactors to treat it, you want the stuff GONE, and you want it to end up not impacting your local environment. That's my example as a wastewater engineer.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

so wait, are you saying that the DOE didn't do anything?

Well, the Department of Energy doesn't do much teaching, but the Education Department never actually required Common Core to be used but tied funding grants to it. Most states took the money to implement it as a replacement to their own standards.

The failure was in school districts buying Common Core aligned curriculums from the education industry that taught methods that were not in alignment with the parent's education and were too "new age" in their approaches. They couldn't help their kids. I personally hated them. I nearly blew a fuse at the way teachers were instructing my grandkids.

Those standards still exist in school all over this country today, but with a different name to avoid all the controversy. Nothing really changed except the instructional curriculum. The standards are the same as they were.

 

[jc456]

Well, the Department of Energy doesn't do much teaching, but the Education Department never actually required Common Core to be used but tied funding grants to it. Most states took the money to implement it as a replacement to their own standards.

The failure was in school districts buying Common Core aligned curriculums from the education industry that taught methods that were not in alignment with the parent's education and were too "new age" in their approaches. They couldn't help their kids. I personally hated them. I nearly blew a fuse at the way teachers were instructing my grandkids.

Those standards still exist in school all over this country today, but with a different name to avoid all the controversy. Nothing really changed except the instructional curriculum. The standards are the same as they were.

so you admit they don't do shit but cow tie to the unions? ahahahaahahahahaha

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Dare we delve into inner-city schools into which large sums of money are poured but which graduate far too many students who don't meet basic education requirements? Those areas have been poor and remain poor with dilapidated schools.

That is not the Education Department's responsibility, They dealt mainly with funding which was used by the local school districts. Inner city schools mostly suck because the students provided to them by society suck.

I am arrogant enough to say I was an outstanding teacher, but when you put me in an inner-city school, in a building my own older cousin attended in the 1960s, with a student body more closely resembling the United Nations general assembly. There is not much I could have done when over half of my students did not speak English. I lasted almost 3 years fighting the lack of discipline and lack of support from my administrators.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

so you admit they don't do shit but cow tie to the unions? ahahahaahahahahaha

Where did I mention unions? Unions had absolutely nothing to do with Common Core.

BTW, the expression is "kow tow". You teacher should have done a better job with you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So only made up metrics and not results oriented ones can be applied?

And you wonder why people who also have things they can't control in their job complain about teachers getting off easy.

My job has one simple rule, "It may not be your fault, but it's still your problem"

Have you ever heard the expression "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit, no matter how hard you try?".

Is it fair to judge an Algebra teacher with 10 special education students out of the 25 in his or her class when comparing them to teachers who are teaching students who have already taken Algebra in the eighth grade and they are repeating it even though they already passed it once before?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The majority of democrats grift is hidden under the guise of the poor.

True, but what does that have to do with what I said?

 

[martybegan]

Have you ever heard the expression "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit, no matter how hard you try?".

Is it fair to judge an Algebra teacher with 10 special education students out of the 25 in his or her class when comparing them to teachers who are teaching students who have already taken Algebra in the eighth grade and they are repeating it even though they already passed it once before?

Life isn't fair. Working in Construction Management, trust me, I know.

Again, In NYC we deal with unions that fight ANY method of teacher evaluation beyond attendance checks.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Life isn't fair. Working in Construction Management, trust me, I know.

Again, In NYC we deal with unions that fight ANY method of teacher evaluation beyond attendance checks.

It should be fair when you can be blackballed out of employment through no fault of your own.

You have my condolences in dealing with New York about anything.

 

[martybegan]

It should be fair when you can be blackballed out of employment through no fault of your own.

You have my condolences in dealing with New York about anything.

I can implement the greatest safety program in the City and if some moron doesn't follow the rules and takes a header from 30ft I can still see my career ruined.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I can implement the greatest safety program in the City and if some moron doesn't follow the rules and takes a header from 30ft I can still see my career ruined.

So, you know exactly how it feels! Why would you want that for teachers?

 

[martybegan]

So, you know exactly how it feels! Why would you want that for teachers?

Because that's reality?

Because not having to deal with it just because you work for the government breeds resentment amongst the people that pay you to your jobs?