Education Dept. : BDS activity against Israel will be defined as anti-Semitism

Originally posted by Shusha
What do you propose as an objective test to see if someone and all their descendants are "converts" and not "real Jews"? And how will you apply that to Arab Palestinians?

Confronted with the undisputable fact that the conflict in Palestine is an ethnocratic struggle that pits the native population against settlers from Europe and unable to present any valid counter-argument, the zionists, in total desperation, start using the tactic of trying to at least confuse, muddle the issue with pathetic, crazy arguments such as this:

"We can only state the IP conflict is an ethnocratic conflict after we perform genetic tests in at least 10 million Jews and 10 million palestinians."

"Since we cannot deny the natives vs settlers nature of the conflict let's start splitting hairs, let's raise the bar to an impossible height by demanding individual genetic tests on each and every Jew and Palestinian."

"Since we cannot deny the big picture of colonialism let's start trying to delegitimize the true nature of the conflict by focusing on a microscopic, irrelevant level."


Yeah. Um. I didn't say any of that. So again, what would be your objective test for distinguishing converts from "real Jews"? Since you were the one who brought up the idea of distinguishing converts from "real Jews".
 
Isn’t the same exclusionary principle at play when you refer to Palestinians as “Arab Moslems” implying they are foreign invaders in a Jewish land?

This is a red herring and an offensive one.
Why?
1.Because my grandfather, G-d give him long years, is a Palestinian Jew, so were at least 20 generations of my family after they've arrived from the most ancient Jewish diaspora community in the middle east - Babylon.

2. Because when the different posters here argued for transfer - I argue that it would be a catastrophe for the Israeli society in whole. Yet You stick this accusation to me as if I was to exclude them from my society.

3. Because my family has long (more than a century) friendship with the respected Arab Aboulafia family and several others less known clans, who do not deny of their foreign origins, and it never EVER was an issue between us.

4. Because while the word "Palestine" coming from MY LANGUAGE - means exactly that - INVADERS, the Arab governments identify officially as invaders who took the land by force, and their flag is represnting the 4 Caliphates. Yet You want me to lie about such basic undeniable truth in favor of Your twisted moral relativism, projections and PC bs - Your main measure of truth is Your emotions regarding the subject: And somehow You feel it's acceptable to emotionally blackmail me to deny truth that Arabs themselves don't deny, only to feed Your delusions about the fairness of the world on my behalf.

But the most disturbing thing is that You're trying to extract this guilt by comparing Jewish independence, heritage and truth to antisemitism - the most long documented vile and violent form of violence that was inflicted on any nation on earth (that I know of) throughout the centuries. You're comparing our struggle to independence to antisemitism, a struggle that continues to this day against a group of people who made it their goal in life to ERASE my people from their ONLY land, while also stealing every aspect of Jewish identity to do that. That You even dare to do it shows how detached are You from the reality of one of the most persecuted nations on earth - and You do the same thing our enemies do - trying to water down and steal our identity by comparing antisemitism to our defense against the Arab nation.

I've spoken in Your favor when people accused You of antisemitism, I'm saddened by the fact that I can't anymore - because my people lost a friend to the most vile ideology used against us.
 
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Originally posted by Shusha
Yeah. Um. I didn't say any of that. So again, what would be your objective test for distinguishing converts from "real Jews"? Since you were the one who brought up the idea of distinguishing converts from "real Jews".

Thanks for confirming everything I said:

Translation:

"Since I cannot deny the historical fact that the founding population of the state of Israel consisted of hundreds of thousands of unwanted immigrants, of europeans of jewish faith physically indistinguishable from europeans of christian faith.

Since I cannot deny the arrival of all those european colonists all I can do to confuse the issue is make a batshit crazy demand that the european ancestry of each and every Askhenazi Jew living in Israel be proved "through an objective test"."
 
Originally posted by rilah
This is a red herring and an offensive one.
Why?
1.Because my grandfather, G-d give him long years, is a Palestinian Jew, so were at least 20 generations of my family after they've arrived from the most ancient Jewish diaspora community in the middle east - Babylon.

If your grandfather's ancestors arrived after the 80's chances are they were colonists not "Palestinian Jews".

Your grandfather is a native but his presence in Palestine and the state in which he lives are the fruits of a colonialist, supremacist society that still exists in Palestine.
 
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Originally posted by Shusha
Yeah. Um. I didn't say any of that. So again, what would be your objective test for distinguishing converts from "real Jews"? Since you were the one who brought up the idea of distinguishing converts from "real Jews".

Thanks for confirming everything I said:

Translation:

"Since I cannot deny the historical fact that the founding population of the state of Israel consisted of hundreds of thousands of unwanted immigrants, of europeans of jewish faith physically indistinguishable from europeans of christian faith.

Since I cannot deny the arrival of all those european colonists all I can do to confuse the issue is make a batshit crazy demand that the european ancestry of each and every Askhenazi Jew living in Israel be proved "through an objective test"."
Classic irrational racism on display.
I assume You attempted to prove BDS wasn't antisemitic? Colossal failure on Your part.
I guess I should thank the openness of Your ilk for providing all the material needed for the Department of Education to move further with the implementation of the law against hate crimes, as it is promoted in schools nationwide by BDS.
 
Originally posted by rilah
This is a red herring and an offensive one.
Why?
1.Because my grandfather, G-d give him long years, is a Palestinian Jew, so were at least 20 generations of my family after they've arrived from the most ancient Jewish diaspora community in the middle east - Babylon.

If your grandfather's ancestors arrived after the 80's chances are they were colonists not "Palestinian Jews".

Your grandfather is a native but his presence in Palestine and the state in which he lives are the fruits of a colonialist, supremacist society that still exists in Palestine.

Did You even read what I've written?
Sometimes it seems Jew-hatred is a mental disability causing a serious brain damage exponentially with each stage of development.

If I were You I'd seriously consider suing BDS for causing an irreversible damage to Your overall mental health.
 
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I was referring to the european part of your family.
 
I was referring to the european part of your family.

My wive's family immigrated from Europe, 90% of her family was wiped out for merely being Jews, by the racist ilk that used the same racist measurements as You do, as an excuse to wipe out any and all who even remotely looked or reminded them of a Jews.
Q.Do You have more of that self defeating racist BDS "wisdom" that we can share with the Department of Education?
 
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Muslim-Arab Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza need to pack up and move elsewhere.

While they still can.
EXCEPT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO.
It's time to take that choice away from them.

Time to push them across the Jordan to the East Bank, where they belong nowadays.

Consider it payback for the expulsion of the Jews from so many Muslim-Arab countries since 1948.

Payback's a *****.

Incentivize them to move with money, at first.

For the idiots who remain behind, incentivize them with firepower.

And tell the UN to shove it along the way.
 
Muslim-Arab Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza need to pack up and move elsewhere.

While they still can.
EXCEPT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO.
It's time to take that choice away from them.

Time to push them across the Jordan to the East Bank, where they belong nowadays.

Consider it payback for the expulsion of the Jews from so many Muslim-Arab countries since 1948.

Payback's a *****.

Incentivize them to move with money, at first.

For the idiots who remain behind, incentivize them with firepower.

And tell the UN to shove it along the way.
Oh my, so much hate.
 
Originally posted by Shusha
Yeah. Um. I didn't say any of that. So again, what would be your objective test for distinguishing converts from "real Jews"? Since you were the one who brought up the idea of distinguishing converts from "real Jews".

Thanks for confirming everything I said:

Translation:

"Since I cannot deny the historical fact that the founding population of the state of Israel consisted of hundreds of thousands of unwanted immigrants, of europeans of jewish faith physically indistinguishable from europeans of christian faith.

Since I cannot deny the arrival of all those european colonists all I can do to confuse the issue is make a batshit crazy demand that the european ancestry of each and every Askhenazi Jew living in Israel be proved "through an objective test"."

So your objective test is that if they were living elsewhere they are converts and not real Jews?
 
Originally posted by Shusha
So your objective test is that if they were living elsewhere they are converts and not real Jews?

There can be no mistaking the striking resemblance between Yemenite Jews and Yemenite Muslims, between North African Jews and the indigenous Berber population of the region, between Ethiopian Jews and their African neighbors, between the Cochin Jews and the other inhabitants of southwestern India, or between the Jews of Eastern Europe and the members of the Turkish and Slavic tribes that inhabited the Caucasus and southeast Russia.

To the dismay of anti-Semites, the Jews were never a foreign “ethnos” of invaders from afar but rather an autochthonous population whose ancestors, for the most part, converted to Judaism before the arrival of Christianity or Islam.

The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland, Shlomo Sand - pag. 19
 
Originally posted by Shusha
So your objective test is that if they were living elsewhere they are converts and not real Jews?

There can be no mistaking the striking resemblance between Yemenite Jews and Yemenite Muslims, between North African Jews and the indigenous Berber population of the region, between Ethiopian Jews and their African neighbors, between the Cochin Jews and the other inhabitants of southwestern India, or between the Jews of Eastern Europe and the members of the Turkish and Slavic tribes that inhabited the Caucasus and southeast Russia.

To the dismay of anti-Semites, the Jews were never a foreign “ethnos” of invaders from afar but rather an autochthonous population whose ancestors, for the most part, converted to Judaism before the arrival of Christianity or Islam.

The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland, Shlomo Sand - pag. 19


Oh dear. Another Khazar idiot.
 
Originally posted by Shusha
Oh dear. Another Khazar idiot.

The idiot would be the one who denies a reality that's in front of his eyes in favor of a mythological ancestry.

And the depraved, pornographic idiots would be an even more degenerate kind of individual who not only deny reality in favor of myth, but also actively use the myth to "legitimize" the dispossession of a native population whose ancestry is not mythological but absolutely real.
 
Originally posted by Shusha
Oh dear. Another Khazar idiot.

The idiot would be the one who denies a reality that's in front of his eyes in favor of a mythological ancestry.

And the depraved, pornographic idiots would be an even more degenerate kind of individual who not only deny reality in favor of myth, but also actively use the myth to "legitimize" the dispossession of a native population whose ancestry is not mythological but absolutely real.

What mythological ancestry?
It's pretty ironic when #BDS-holes use eugenics in an attempt to prove they're not racists.
 
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Originally posted by Shusha
Oh dear. Another Khazar idiot.

The idiot would be the one who denies a reality that's in front of his eyes in favor of a mythological ancestry.

And the depraved, pornographic idiots would be an even more degenerate kind of individual who not only deny reality in favor of myth, but also actively use the myth to "legitimize" the dispossession of a native population whose ancestry is not mythological but absolutely real.
To hell with that mongrel rag-tag collection of so-called natives.
 
When calls to "Free Palestine" are followed by
calls to exterminate Jews


 
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BDS logic: pretend we're not spreading Jew-hatred,
but when we do let's blame it on the Jews.
 
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