Economic Facts that Obama Keeps Ignoring

[JakeStarkey]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

 

[Conservative65]

Here you go, conservative65 and easyt: Write Public Email to John G. Roberts, Jr. (w/o address, contact info)

Are you saying he can show me the word healthcare in the Constitution? I don't think even he can.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here you go, conservative65 and easyt: Write Public Email to John G. Roberts, Jr. (w/o address, contact info)

Are you saying he can show me the word healthcare in the Constitution? I don't think even he can.

Since he is in charge, and you are not, your worry is rather you, now, isn't it?

 

[Conservative65]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

 

[NYcarbineer]

* The average U-6 rate under Bush was a good 2 points lower than it has been under Obama. Under Bush, the U-6 never got above 8 percent! Under Obama, the U-6 has averaged right around 11 percent.

U-6 was over 8% from August of 2001 until Bush left office, with 1 exception, 1 month at 7.9.

You really are mentally retarded. You should be institutionalized for the health and safety of all of us.

 

[Conservative65]

Here you go, conservative65 and easyt: Write Public Email to John G. Roberts, Jr. (w/o address, contact info)

Are you saying he can show me the word healthcare in the Constitution? I don't think even he can.

Since he is in charge, and you are not, your worry is rather you, now, isn't it?

Since he can't show me either, seems neither of you know shit.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

"could graduate from High School and get a good, well paying job that would provide for their family"​

Well, you been picking cotton lately? Wash any dishes lately? Wash cars lately? Sell tamales on the street lately? you see fella, you walk around with your pointed head so far in the sand that you have no clue, do you? WHAT jobs!?!?!?! When I was a kid, before I went into the Army - I could have had well paying jobs at Ford, GE, Westinghouse and Chrysler. Here's a clue for you - THEY ARE GONE.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

 

[Conservative65]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

That's still a net claimed increase of 13 million jobs. Any more excuses?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

That's still a net claimed increase of 13 million jobs. Any more excuses?

That's an excuse? Why?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

That's still a net claimed increase of 13 million jobs. Any more excuses?

So you're coming out opposed to smaller government? lol good one.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

"could graduate from High School and get a good, well paying job that would provide for their family"​

Well, you been picking cotton lately? Wash any dishes lately? Wash cars lately? Sell tamales on the street lately? you see fella, you walk around with your pointed head so far in the sand that you have no clue, do you? WHAT jobs!?!?!?! When I was a kid, before I went into the Army - I could have had well paying jobs at Ford, GE, Westinghouse and Chrysler. Here's a clue for you - THEY ARE GONE.

I hoed sugar beets, worked in a sleeping bag factory, cleaned deer shit out of a animal center, and dozens of other menial jobs.

I then went into the service, went to college, trained and re-trained, and have had a very successful life.

Kid, the world has changed in the last fifty years, and we are not going backwards.

Ignore Randall, get schooling, and stay current.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Part of the problem is the far right wanks won't train or re-train for better paying jobs, the immigrants many of them do, and the wanks cry.

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

Let me know when 5 million "government" jobs are gone. Let me know when the 85,000 IRS enforcement officers have been fired. Do you realize that we have nearly 15 times as many IRS officers as we do Intelligence Officers!?!?!?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The excuses of con65 have been exploded.

Get your schooling, stay current, improve, and keep moving forward.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

Let me know when 5 million "government" jobs are gone. Let me know when the 85,000 IRS enforcement officers have been fired. Do you realize that we have nearly 15 times as many IRS officers as we do Intelligence Officers!?!?!?

lol, you're an idiot.

 

[Votto]

During his state of the union (SOTU) address a few days ago, President Obama, as usual, painted a misleading, incomplete picture of the economy and his economic record. Of course, this is nothing new. Obama and his apologists have been doing this for years. Anyway, here are some facts that Obama didn't get around to sharing in his SOTU mythology:

* Although the standard (U-3) unemployment rate is at 5.0 percent, the U-6 unemployment rate, which gives a much more complete employment picture, is at 9.9 percent, and has gone up .3 percentage points since November (from 9.6 to 9.9). The U-3 does not count the long-term unemployed/those who have given up on finding work and those who are under-employed because they can't find full-time work, whereas the U-6 includes these people.

* The average U-6 rate under Bush was a good 2 points lower than it has been under Obama. Under Bush, the U-6 never got above 8 percent! Under Obama, the U-6 has averaged right around 11 percent.

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

Unemployment Rate | President : George Walker Bush

* The labor force participation rate (LFPR) has been trending markedly downward since 2009, even soon after the start of Obama’s “recovery.”

United States Labor Force Participation Rate | 1950-2016 | Data | Chart (use the "max" view option)

Record 94,610,000 Americans Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Lowest in 38 Years

In contrast, during the Reagan and Clinton years, the LFPR trended markedly upward. And you can’t blame Obama's LFPR drop all on retiring Baby Boomers. Indeed, many Baby Boomers have found it necessary to keep working or to re-enter the workforce because of the weak economy and/or declining retirement income caused by the Fed’s unnaturally low interest rates (my own parents saw their retirement income drop by about $700 a month because of the drop in interest rates).

* Given these facts, some might be wondering how Obama could claim, as he did during his SOTU speech, that the economy has added 14 million jobs on his watch. Well, the simple fact is: it hasn’t. Obama cooked up this number by ignoring the worst economic months on his watch and then counting from there! No kidding. Even CNN has admitted that that’s how Obama came up with the figure of 14 million new jobs (see http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/ ).

Obama’s real job-creation number is 9.3 million. Never mind that many of those jobs have been created in spite of Obama’s policies, not because of them, Obama’s record pales in comparison to Reagan’s and Clinton’s records. Reagan created 12.6 million new jobs, and Clinton created nearly 21 million new jobs.

Both Reagan and Clinton raised a few taxes but slashed other taxes, and both signed several deregulation bills to ease the regulatory burden on American businesses. Overall, Reagan slashed the top two marginal tax rates by nearly 300% and also substantially cut taxes for the middle class. Clinton, although he allowed a modest increase in the top two marginal rates, cut the capital gains tax by a whopping 28 percent, created a new $500 child tax credit, raised the income limit for deductible IRAs, and nearly doubled the estate tax exemption (funny that liberals never mention these things when they praise Clinton’s economic record).

Obama’s job-creation record does top Bush’s: 9.3 million to 5.7 million. However, Bush’s numbers were affected by four events that were beyond his control: the huge economic damage done by 9/11, the enormous economic damage done by six of the 10 costliest hurricanes in American history (four of them are in the top six, including the most expensive of them all: Katrina; in contrast, Obama has had one top-ten hurricane: number 7, Irene), the recession that began soon after he took office (which obviously had nothing to do with anything he had done), and the Great Recession that began in 2008, which was largely caused by federal mortgage lending and securitization policies that Bush had repeatedly tried to stop (see, for example, The Real Culprits In This Meltdown ; How Government Housing Policy Led to the Financial Crisis ).

* Under Obama, real median household income has dropped sharply and is still nowhere near its average during the Reagan, Clinton, and Bush years. During the Bush years, it averaged nearly $56K, whereas under Obama it has averaged below $54K.

Real Median Household Income in the United States (use the "max" view option)

* Under Obama, the national debt has skyrocketed and is now well over $18 trillion. Obama has piled up nearly double the amount of debt that Bush did, and he’s done so in only 7 years compared to Bush’s 8 years. Bush added $4.9 trillion to the national debt during his 8 years in office, from $5.7 trillion in January 2001 to $10.6 trillion in January 2009. Obama has added $8.3 trillion to the national debt since taking office, from $10.6 trillion in January 2009 to $18.9 trillion as of December 2015.

And don’t let anyone tell you that some of Obama’s new debt is Bush’s fault because of the gigantic FY 2009 spending increase, as some liberals (such as Rex Nutting) have falsely claimed. In point of fact, the huge FY 2009 spending hike was done by the Democratic-controlled Congress. The Democrats stalled nine of the 12 spending bills until after Obama took office because Bush was going to veto them. Just go look at who signed nine of those 12 spending bills—it was Obama, not Bush (see http://dailysignal.com/2012/05/24/the-truth-about-president-obamas-skyrocketing-spending/ ).

* Blacks have done especially poorly in Obama’s economy. From median household income to poverty to employment, blacks are markedly worse off now than they were when Obama took office.

Larry Elder - Under Obama, Blacks Are Worse Off -- Far Worse

Blacks Lose Ground under Obama, by Deroy Murdock, National Review

Tavis Smiley: On Every Leading Economic Issue Black Americans Have Lost Ground Under Obama (VIDEO) - The Gateway Pundit

Obama knows all this. He is intentionally trying to destroy the economy.

It all has to do with the globalist/Progressive ideology.

Growth = more people, less natural resources, and more pollution.

Degrowth = less people, smaller salaries, and subsequently less pollution and use of natural resources.

It's all their plan. Of course, they have to lie to us to get into office.

 

[Conservative65]

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

That's still a net claimed increase of 13 million jobs. Any more excuses?

So you're coming out opposed to smaller government? lol good one.

I've proven you wrong on another issue today. Would you like to try for two?

I'm all for smaller government but that has nothing to do with the net numbers you idiots claim as job creations.

If one million government jobs were lost and the government stills runs just as shitty as it did when they were hired, tells me those one million folks were simply drawing a check. It's time they went.

Are you willing to say it's OK to continue to pay one million people for which no discernible difference can be made either way?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

Let me know when 5 million "government" jobs are gone. Let me know when the 85,000 IRS enforcement officers have been fired. Do you realize that we have nearly 15 times as many IRS officers as we do Intelligence Officers!?!?!?

Gotta link? Didn't think so.

 

[Conservative65]

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

Let me know when 5 million "government" jobs are gone. Let me know when the 85,000 IRS enforcement officers have been fired. Do you realize that we have nearly 15 times as many IRS officers as we do Intelligence Officers!?!?!?

the one million gone that NYcarbineer says have been lost didn't change the level of shitty service provided by the government. Tells me one million people needed to go as they were simply drawing a check.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yep,

Then the very party they vote for brings in 100k or more h1b's and immigrants to do it instead. LOL!!!

The republican party defunds education and limits a persons ability to get a education in order to compete....

Republicans for the past 35 years has been fighting to send our industry to china and mexico. Yet, they blame Obama? lol, lol, lol!!!!! Obama has created 14 million jobs and fought to rebuild some of our industry.

Defunds a person's ability? You mean not everyone has the opportunity to go to school through the 12th grade. If you're talking about college, that's not the place of taxpayers or the government to give that to anyone.

If Obama has created so many jobs, why are so many more on social welfare since he took office?

Show the correlation for you last comment.

It's a question dumbass. Obama supporters claim he created that many jobs. Under his administration, social welfare use has increased drastically. If all those jobs have been created and more people are working, why are so many more getting something that's an indicator of less unemployment?

Because we lost almost a million government jobs. Just what people like you wanted.

Let me know when 5 million "government" jobs are gone. Let me know when the 85,000 IRS enforcement officers have been fired. Do you realize that we have nearly 15 times as many IRS officers as we do Intelligence Officers!?!?!?

And you bitched and voted Democrat when government jobs kept increasing under Bush?