Duck Dynasty Robertson's rape/murder fantasy

[AmericanFirst]

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

A parable?

Except that PR made it personal when he switched into the first person when it came to him fantasizing about castrating someone who doesn't share his insane beliefs.

So no, it wasn't a "parable" at all.

It was an ugly glimpse into his sick and perverted mindset.

He did not do that.
It was a continuation of the parable. He did not say what if I took his manhood
What he said was and then you take his manhood.
What is wrong with some of you?
1st person: I, me, my, mine, myself (singular) our, ours, us, we, ourselves (plural)
2nd person - you your and yours (both singular and plural) yourself (singular) yourselves (plural)
3rd person - his, her, hers, it, its, himself, herself, itself (singular) they, them, their, theirs, themselves (plural)

You are reading things into what he actually said. I am taking him literally.

Why is he not accountable for his own despicable words?

Yes I am. Words have meaning.
You are the on who tried to say he talked in the 1st person, when he was talking in the 2nd person.
You are the one that is trying to make it into a bad thing which it isn't.

Raping children and beheading women is a "good thing" in your opinion?

/shakes head sadly

Only to mooosluts and libtards.

 

[Derideo_Te]

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Perhaps, but the imagery of the parable itself is horrible and tells a story on on it's own.

Yes it was meant to.
He is talking about right and wrong and those that think there is no judgment.
A parable is a short, succinct story that illustrates a moral or religious lesson. It is a type of analogy.

You "believe" that there is a "judgment". You have no evidence that a "judgment" exists.

The "lesson" that we have here is that PR has a sick and twisted mind to come up with a "parable"as vile as the one that he did. It was a window into his "soul" for want of a better word and it was ugly.

There was nothing "moral" about that story IMO.

I don't have to have evidence. Judgment Day will happen whether you believe it or not.

I uphold your right to believe whatever you want to believe.

However neither you nor PR have the right to impose his sick, ugly, perverted beliefs on anyone else.

.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Perhaps, but the imagery of the parable itself is horrible and tells a story on on it's own.

Yes it was meant to.
He is talking about right and wrong and those that think there is no judgment.
A parable is a short, succinct story that illustrates a moral or religious lesson. It is a type of analogy.

You "believe" that there is a "judgment". You have no evidence that a "judgment" exists.

The "lesson" that we have here is that PR has a sick and twisted mind to come up with a "parable"as vile as the one that he did. It was a window into his "soul" for want of a better word and it was ugly.

There was nothing "moral" about that story IMO.

I don't have to have evidence. Judgment Day will happen whether you believe it or not.

I uphold your right to believe whatever you want to believe.

However neither you nor PR have the right to impose his sick, ugly, perverted beliefs on anyone else.

.

Then you really are not a libtard? PR for POTUS!

 

[peach174]

Phil Robertson Of 'Duck Dynasty' Reveals Bizarre Atheist Rape And Murder Fantasy
Speaking at a Christian event ...

Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters," Robertson said in audio from the Vero Beach Prayer Breakfast, obtained by Right Wing Watch. "Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him."

Robertson continued:

"And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot 'em and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, 'Isn't it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn't it great that there's nothing wrong with this? There's no right or wrong, now is it dude?'

Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, 'Wouldn't it be something if this was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We're sick in the head, have a nice day.'

If it happened to them, they probably would say, 'Something about this just ain't right.'"



How many of you "christians" will defend this vile, sick man's words?

You have defended his hatred for gays and his stated desire to force young girls into "marriage" with older men but can you really defend THIS???

And before you start with the usual lies, listen to the audio at the link above, or if you would rather hear it at a RW site, go to this link:

Phil Robertson Hypothesizes About Atheist Family Getting Raped And Killed Right Wing Watch

Either way, you cannot lie that he did not say this.

And if duckboi said he was a Christian and accepted Jesus as his savior he could also claim no harm done.

Oh, wait.

Convenient, isn't it.

They don't rape, torture and murder because they're scared of the afterlife BUT, if they do, they're forgiven and still get to go to heaven.

You are still wrong.

Yes very wrong.
If you continue to willfully sin like that you will not get into Heaven.
If you believe you have ever lasting life, but if you continue to sin you will never be able to enter the Kingdom.
Revelation 22:12-15
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

[peach174]

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Perhaps, but the imagery of the parable itself is horrible and tells a story on on it's own.

Yes it was meant to.
He is talking about right and wrong and those that think there is no judgment.
A parable is a short, succinct story that illustrates a moral or religious lesson. It is a type of analogy.

You "believe" that there is a "judgment". You have no evidence that a "judgment" exists.

The "lesson" that we have here is that PR has a sick and twisted mind to come up with a "parable"as vile as the one that he did. It was a window into his "soul" for want of a better word and it was ugly.

There was nothing "moral" about that story IMO.

I don't have to have evidence. Judgment Day will happen whether you believe it or not.

I uphold your right to believe whatever you want to believe.

However neither you nor PR have the right to impose his sick, ugly, perverted beliefs on anyone else.

.

No one is doing that.
He was speaking to a Christian crowd. No one was forced to be there.
It was Huff Post that decided to report it.
A report is not forcing anyone to believe.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Perhaps, but the imagery of the parable itself is horrible and tells a story on on it's own.

Yes it was meant to.
He is talking about right and wrong and those that think there is no judgment.
A parable is a short, succinct story that illustrates a moral or religious lesson. It is a type of analogy.

You "believe" that there is a "judgment". You have no evidence that a "judgment" exists.

The "lesson" that we have here is that PR has a sick and twisted mind to come up with a "parable"as vile as the one that he did. It was a window into his "soul" for want of a better word and it was ugly.

There was nothing "moral" about that story IMO.

I don't have to have evidence. Judgment Day will happen whether you believe it or not.

I uphold your right to believe whatever you want to believe.

However neither you nor PR have the right to impose his sick, ugly, perverted beliefs on anyone else.

.

No one is doing that.
He was speaking to a Christian crowd. No one was forced to be there.
It was Huff Post that decided to report it.
A report is not forcing anyone to believe.

If it was HuffPo that decided to report it, why was it also reported on the RW site I linked in the OP?

Are there certain stories that HuffPo or others should not report?

Would you mind listing them?

Thanks.

Oh, and that was not a Christian group. Nor does this have anything to do with Christians.

 

[Mertex]

I can't argue with what he said. It's correct and it's what's wrong with not having faith based moral's.

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for someone to tell such a story "someone to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged"? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and mock him because he doesn't believe in God".

The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God if he is going to use such illustrations..

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

 

[Mertex]

A parable?

Except that PR made it personal when he switched into the first person when it came to him fantasizing about castrating someone who doesn't share his insane beliefs.

So no, it wasn't a "parable" at all.

It was an ugly glimpse into his sick and perverted mindset.

He did not do that.
It was a continuation of the parable. He did not say what if I took his manhood
What he said was and then you take his manhood.
What is wrong with some of you?
1st person: I, me, my, mine, myself (singular) our, ours, us, we, ourselves (plural)
2nd person - you your and yours (both singular and plural) yourself (singular) yourselves (plural)
3rd person - his, her, hers, it, its, himself, herself, itself (singular) they, them, their, theirs, themselves (plural)

You are reading things into what he actually said. I am taking him literally.

Why is he not accountable for his own despicable words?

Yes I am. Words have meaning.
You are the on who tried to say he talked in the 1st person, when he was talking in the 2nd person.
You are the one that is trying to make it into a bad thing which it isn't.

Raping children and beheading women is a "good thing" in your opinion?

/shakes head sadly

Only to mooosluts and libtards.

This Duck Dynasty idiot is not a liberal. So, you're just as sick as he is if you think that it's a good illustration of why it is good to believe in God. You need a reality check.

 

[peach174]

Yes it was meant to.
He is talking about right and wrong and those that think there is no judgment.
A parable is a short, succinct story that illustrates a moral or religious lesson. It is a type of analogy.

You "believe" that there is a "judgment". You have no evidence that a "judgment" exists.

The "lesson" that we have here is that PR has a sick and twisted mind to come up with a "parable"as vile as the one that he did. It was a window into his "soul" for want of a better word and it was ugly.

There was nothing "moral" about that story IMO.

I don't have to have evidence. Judgment Day will happen whether you believe it or not.

I uphold your right to believe whatever you want to believe.

However neither you nor PR have the right to impose his sick, ugly, perverted beliefs on anyone else.

.

No one is doing that.
He was speaking to a Christian crowd. No one was forced to be there.
It was Huff Post that decided to report it.
A report is not forcing anyone to believe.

If it was HuffPo that decided to report it, why was it also reported on the RW site I linked in the OP?

Are there certain stories that HuffPo or others should not report?

Would you mind listing them?

Thanks.

Oh, and that was not a Christian group. Nor does this have anything to do with Christians.

Your link at the beginning was the HuffPost
Yes it was a Christian group.
Headline;
Phil Robertson Of 'Duck Dynasty' Reveals Bizarre Atheist Rape And Murder FantasySpeaking at a Christian event ...

at a Christian event

Your 2nd link was a RW site and it was a Christian event called the Vero Beach Prayer Breakfast.

It has every thing to do with Christians. They all got it because they are Christians.
It's you who are not that is not understanding what he said and meant.

 

[peach174]

I can't argue with what he said. It's correct and it's what's wrong with not having faith based moral's.

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

 

[Mertex]

I can't argue with what he said. It's correct and it's what's wrong with not having faith based moral's.

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

 

[peach174]

I can't argue with what he said. It's correct and it's what's wrong with not having faith based moral's.

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

You are the one who has missed his point and the ending.

And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”

Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”

“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”

 

[Mertex]

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

You are the one who has missed his point and the ending.

And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”

Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”

“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”

Of course, anyone whether they were believers or not would thing that a horrible crime such as the one he is illustrating isn't right. The problem is not in the fact that such crimes do happen. The problem is with trying to use such an illustration to glorify God.

If you are not able to distinguish between the two, then you may want to ask your preacher if he thinks that is a good way to promote Christianity, by telling those kinds of stories to people that don't believe in God.

 

[peach174]

I can't argue with what he said. It's correct and it's what's wrong with not having faith based moral's.

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

How about when Jesus talked about this?
Matthew 13:24-30)
The Son of man (Jesus) shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

I think that being burned alive would be much worse.

 

[Mertex]

So faith based morals condone raping and murdering children?

Since you believe he was "correct' you must be as morally perverted as he is.

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

How about when Jesus talked about this?
Matthew 13:24-30)
The Son of man (Jesus) shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

I think that being burned alive would be much worse.

Yes, that is what the Bible says is going to happen at the end. But, the Bible doesn't say anything about Christians using vile and heinous illustrations of acts against children, women and men, to bring others to Christ. You're missing the whole point, which doesn't surprise me.

 

[peach174]

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

You are the one who has missed his point and the ending.

And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”

Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”

“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”

Of course, anyone whether they were believers or not would thing that a horrible crime such as the one he is illustrating isn't right. The problem is not in the fact that such crimes do happen. The problem is with trying to use such an illustration to glorify God.

If you are not able to distinguish between the two, then you may want to ask your preacher if he thinks that is a good way to promote Christianity, by telling those kinds of stories to people that don't believe in God.

He is not glorifying God. He is talking about non believers.
He is talking about those who do not believe - you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong.

 

[idb]

The speech was a frightening admission by Phil R. of his own psychopathic nature. That is, he only does "right" out of fear of punishment, and not because he's considered why actions are right or wrong.

His supporters here all apparently think the same way. We should all be thankful that they do believe in a god, giving that, by their own admission, they'd all be out killing, raping and mutilating people if they didn't believe in a god.

What is to keep you from doing right other than punishment? Isn't that why we have laws to punish people for wrong doings? You kill someone and you go to prison. If we didn't have punishment for your actions what would we have?

The only thing that stops you from beheading and raping people is because it's against the law?!
Really?!!!!

 

[peach174]

Do you understand the words- it's a parable?
It is not about actually raping murdering children.

Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

How about when Jesus talked about this?
Matthew 13:24-30)
The Son of man (Jesus) shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

I think that being burned alive would be much worse.

Yes, that is what the Bible says is going to happen at the end. But, the Bible doesn't say anything about Christians using vile and heinous illustrations of acts against children, women and men, to bring others to Christ. You're missing the whole point, which doesn't surprise me.

Again it was not about bringing others to Christ. The group he is speaking to are already believers.
It is about people in this world who do not acknowledging right from wrong and not believing in God.
Nope it has gone over your head and you are missing the whole point. You are the one who is trying to make it into something bad.

 

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Do you even know the definition of a Parable? Jesus used parables to demonstrate truths.

So, in your mind, it would be okay for Christians to come into a home and rape a man's children and shoot them and take his wife and decapitate her in front of him. And then brag about how they don't have to worry about being judged? Then take a sharp knife and take his manhood (cut his penis) and then mock him because he doesn't believe in God.

Wouldn't you think that someone who would do that does not believe in God, either? The whole story is a sick illustration that doesn't make those who don't believe in God believe in God, just makes one's stomach turn. This Dynasty creep might as well not believe in God.

And, please, don't say that it is a parable. Jesus spoke in parables and He never made such a sick illustration to bring people to God.

He was talking about right and wrong and judgment.
Not actually doing the deed.
It is you who refuses to get it.
But you go ahead and continue to look uninformed and foolish and continue to try and make a good thing into a bad thing.
It is your right.

You think that telling such a story is such a good thing, then explain to me why Jesus never made up such a story? If you think that such an illustration is what is going to make people believe in God, why don't more preachers use such an illustration?

Because it is a sick illustration and you know it. You are just defending this idiot because the right-wing has adopted the idiots of Duck Dynasty as somehow being literate and all knowing just because they have a stupid show on TV. If anyone else not associated to the right wing were to say something like that you would certainly be shocked.

How about when Jesus talked about this?
Matthew 13:24-30)
The Son of man (Jesus) shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

I think that being burned alive would be much worse.

Yes, that is what the Bible says is going to happen at the end. But, the Bible doesn't say anything about Christians using vile and heinous illustrations of acts against children, women and men, to bring others to Christ. You're missing the whole point, which doesn't surprise me.

Again it was not about bringing others to Christ. The group he is speaking to are already believers.

He is making fun of people that do not believe in God. You have no way of knowing that everyone in that audience is a Christian, just like you can't be absolutely sure that everyone in church is a Christian. His whole purpose was to prove that people who believe in God would not do such a crime because they know they would be punished, but that is not true. Many people who "claim" to believe in God commit crimes all the time.....and they will still be held accountable. But, such an illustration is not something that a Christian person would even want to tell.

It is about people in this world who do not acknowledging right from wrong and not believing in God.

But, you read stories about Christian people committing horrible crimes all the time. And you can't say that people that don't know God don't know the difference between right and wrong. Our laws spell out the wrongs very clearly.

Nope it has gone over your head and you are missing the whole point. You are the one who is trying to make it into something bad.

It is a sick illustration, nothing good about it, and the fact that you are trying to make it into some great illustration of why it is good to be a Christian is sad. You really don't understand Christianity much.[/QUOTE]

 

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I read it as him saying that whatever bad things happen to an atheist...no matter how horrific...they've brought it on themselves...because they're an atheist.