Dr. Fauci Concedes the Coronavirus Mortality Rate May Be Much Closer to a Very Bad Flu

[Crepitus]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

Happy Joint sez: "What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?"

Thank you for asking, although I'm surprised you didn't know that Trump prepared millions of Americans to weather hard times by ensuring they had good and decent-paying employment for over 3 years of being in office. And he raised the # of Americans in high-paying jobs and lowered the # of Americans who were out of work. Should workers be required to stay at home by cdc standards, they will receive compensation for the time it takes for the weather to warm up and the coronavirus days shrink to nothing.

Gosh, I'm glad you asked that question, because Trump has already answered it by fastidious caring to help people in America help themselves. What a wonderful thing that is!!!

So basically nothing that president Obama wasn't already taking care of.

Good to know.

Only thing Obama did was apologize for being American.(if he really was)

Please, show us President Obama apologizing for being American.

You don't accept proof.

Awww, Mikey's pretending he has something relevant to say!

Ain't that cute?

 

[Zander]

Fauci has just predicted right now 100k-200k deaths in the United States though he said that could change.

It's just the flu, right?

Firstly - It's not the flu, it's a coronavirus- more like the common cold.

Secondly- Fauci's comments were taken WAY out of context. He was offering an estmate based on the current models- models that he doesn't believe are accurate. What he really said was “I just don’t think that we really need to make a projection when it’s such a moving target, that you could so easily be wrong,”

Here is the VERY Fake News article from CNN-

US could see millions of coronavirus cases and 100,000 or more deaths, Fauci says

The nation's top infectious disease expert predicted Sunday that the US will eventually see between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths from the novel coronavirus, which has already claimed more than 2,000 American lives.

www.cnn.com

Fake News Network CNN was forced to add the following disclaimer to their outrageous headline - CLARIFICATION: The headline and this story have been updated to better convey that Dr. Anthony Fauci was offering a possible estimate based on his interpretation of the coronavirus models.

 

[San Souci]

Wash your hands--Don't pick your nose. Or rub your eyes. One catches this JUST like a cold.

 

[Lesh]

Not a lot of people die from colds...certainly not young healthy people

 

[Zander]

Not a lot of people die from colds...certainly not young healthy people

Not a lot of young healthy people are dying from Covid 19 either....

 

[WEATHER53]

Not a lot of people die from colds...certainly not young healthy people

Not a lot of young healthy people are dying from Covid 19 either....

Hush
Don’t be a panic queller
Here’s s new stat getting Zero publicity. Of all the deaths, only about 15% are attributed to corona only with 85% being underlying preexisting conditions which always occur in the elderly and 80% of all deaths are from 65+

 

[Dekster]

Cant wait til you all get vaccinated so I can benefit from herd immunity. If there is one thing for certain it is I won't be taking any fresh out the toaster shots

 

[justinacolmena]

probably not as bad

Firstly - It's not the flu, it's a coronavirus- more like the common cold.

Not a lot of people die from colds...certainly not young healthy people

All very true, but some of you folks underestimate the propensity and ability of the medical establishment to arbitrary (mis)attribute additional deaths to make up for any discrepancy.

Doctors have access to various poisons and such that can make a lot of people get sick and die in massa.

The establishment has the cover of the coroner's office or medical examiner in any district, municipality, borough, county, city, town, village, parish, or any locality, of any jurisdiction whatsoever, to explain the deaths they way they want them explained.

If our modern medical Establishment claims a lot of people are dying of Coronavirus® or COVID-19® then they will not hesitate to manufacture the evidence to back up their claims and to conceal or destroy any evidence of their wrongdoing in falsifying the attribution of deaths.

 

[Lesh]

Not a lot of young healthy people are dying from Covid 19 either....

That almost NEVER happens with a cold and rarely happens with "normal" flu. Young people in their teens,twenties, and thirties...not compromised by other health issues ARE dying from this

 

[Zander]

Not a lot of young healthy people are dying from Covid 19 either....

That almost NEVER happens with a cold and rarely happens with "normal" flu. Young people in their teens,twenties, and thirties...not compromised by other health issues ARE dying from this

And almost NEVER happens with Covid 19.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Fauci has just predicted right now 100k-200k deaths in the United States though he said that could change.

It's just the flu, right?

Yes. it is. We'll see if thos numbers pan out. I'm betting that's way high

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Not a lot of young healthy people are dying from Covid 19 either....

That almost NEVER happens with a cold and rarely happens with "normal" flu. Young people in their teens,twenties, and thirties...not compromised by other health issues ARE dying from this

Show me the numbers. You are wrong

 

[justinacolmena]

Young people in their teens,twenties, and thirties...not compromised by other health issues ARE dying from this

That's like the 1918 flu, when so many military-age otherwise healthy young men and women died of "the flu" when in reality the Germans were secretly gassing us in the United States.

 

[HappyJoy]

Fauci has just predicted right now 100k-200k deaths in the United States though he said that could change.

It's just the flu, right?

Firstly - It's not the flu, it's a coronavirus- more like the common cold.

No shit it's not the flu, maybe you guys should stop saying it is. But now you've degraded COVID-19 to the common cold. Not a single respectable health professional would agree with you.

You're off to a fine start.

Secondly- Fauci's comments were taken WAY out of context. He was offering an estmate based on the current models- models that he doesn't believe are accurate. What he really said was “I just don’t think that we really need to make a projection when it’s such a moving target, that you could so easily be wrong,”

He didn't say they were inaccurate. Here is the quote:

"I mean, looking at what we're seeing now, you know, I would say between 100 and 200,000 (deaths). But I don't want to be held to that," he said, adding that the US is going to have "millions of cases." ​

He wasn't misquoted and it wasn't taken out of context, so why are you lying?

Here is the VERY Fake News article from CNN-

US could see millions of coronavirus cases and 100,000 or more deaths, Fauci says

The nation's top infectious disease expert predicted Sunday that the US will eventually see between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths from the novel coronavirus, which has already claimed more than 2,000 American lives.

www.cnn.com

Fake News Network CNN was forced to add the following disclaimer to their outrageous headline - CLARIFICATION: The headline and this story have been updated to better convey that Dr. Anthony Fauci was offering a possible estimate based on his interpretation of the coronavirus models.

Did he say something different now? No? OK, I guess you don't have much of a point other than to lie.

 

[HappyJoy]

Fauci has just predicted right now 100k-200k deaths in the United States though he said that could change.

It's just the flu, right?

Yes. it is. We'll see if thos numbers pan out. I'm betting that's way high

I hope so, but that will only happen if our hospitals are properly staffed, have room and enough PPE. As well we need to continue to practice social distancing.

However, its cowardly to make guess based what you simply want to have happen which is pretty obvious what you are doing. Wingnuts don't have a great track record on this as they took Trump's lead that this was going to disappear after we only had 15 cases.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

However, its cowardly to make guess based what you simply want to have happen which is pretty obvious what you are doing

Couldn't agree more. You need to look at FACTS and stop hoping for death because of your political beliefs.

I've posted enough evidence that this virus is MUCH less lethal than the fearmongering hope it'll be, but maybe I need to start yet another thread devoted exclusively to these facts. Somehow, I know certain people just dont want to hear it. They WANT disaster

 

[HappyJoy]

However, its cowardly to make guess based what you simply want to have happen which is pretty obvious what you are doing

Couldn't agree more. You need to look at FACTS and stop hoping for death because of your political beliefs.

Well, Death Angel, thank you for the advice about not wishing for death, I'm not but that's pretty ironic.

I've posted enough evidence that this virus is MUCH less lethal than the fearmongering hope it'll be, but maybe I need to start yet another thread devoted exclusively to these facts. Somehow, I know certain people just dont want to hear it. They WANT disaster

You have? You've posted evidence that we won't possibly reach 100k-200k deaths?

 

[j-mac]

However, its cowardly to make guess based what you simply want to have happen which is pretty obvious what you are doing

Couldn't agree more. You need to look at FACTS and stop hoping for death because of your political beliefs.

Well, Death Angel, thank you for the advice about not wishing for death, I'm not but that's pretty ironic.

I've posted enough evidence that this virus is MUCH less lethal than the fearmongering hope it'll be, but maybe I need to start yet another thread devoted exclusively to these facts. Somehow, I know certain people just dont want to hear it. They WANT disaster

You have? You've posted evidence that we won't possibly reach 100k-200k deaths?

We reached 38,800 auto deaths in 2019...Should we ban cars too?

Addressing Roadway Risks - National Safety Council

In the first six months of 2021, NSC estimates more than 21,400 people may have lost their lives on our roadways. NSC calls on all road users to follow safe driving tips to ensure you get where you want to go as safely as possible.

www.nsc.org

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

However, its cowardly to make guess based what you simply want to have happen which is pretty obvious what you are doing

Couldn't agree more. You need to look at FACTS and stop hoping for death because of your political beliefs.

Well, Death Angel, thank you for the advice about not wishing for death, I'm not but that's pretty ironic.

I've posted enough evidence that this virus is MUCH less lethal than the fearmongering hope it'll be, but maybe I need to start yet another thread devoted exclusively to these facts. Somehow, I know certain people just dont want to hear it. They WANT disaster

You have? You've posted evidence that we won't possibly reach 100k-200k deaths?

We reached 38,800 auto deaths in 2019...Should we ban cars too?

Addressing Roadway Risks - National Safety Council

In the first six months of 2021, NSC estimates more than 21,400 people may have lost their lives on our roadways. NSC calls on all road users to follow safe driving tips to ensure you get where you want to go as safely as possible.

www.nsc.org

But eliminating cars would destroy the economy!

Oh, wait!

 

[HappyJoy]

However, its cowardly to make guess based what you simply want to have happen which is pretty obvious what you are doing

Couldn't agree more. You need to look at FACTS and stop hoping for death because of your political beliefs.

Well, Death Angel, thank you for the advice about not wishing for death, I'm not but that's pretty ironic.

I've posted enough evidence that this virus is MUCH less lethal than the fearmongering hope it'll be, but maybe I need to start yet another thread devoted exclusively to these facts. Somehow, I know certain people just dont want to hear it. They WANT disaster

You have? You've posted evidence that we won't possibly reach 100k-200k deaths?

We reached 38,800 auto deaths in 2019...Should we ban cars too?

Addressing Roadway Risks - National Safety Council

In the first six months of 2021, NSC estimates more than 21,400 people may have lost their lives on our roadways. NSC calls on all road users to follow safe driving tips to ensure you get where you want to go as safely as possible.

www.nsc.org

I'm sorry, your question is if we should legalize COVID19?