Don't forget the democrats created the KKK

[Zona]

Don't forget the KKK was like the ACORN of southern democrats for many years.

The closer we get to 2012, the more these type threads will happen.

Its going to get bad again. Deflection because the republicans did nothing. NOTHING. No accomplishments, nothing!


Oh boy.

 

[hjmick]

This thread is a fucking hoot! I'm not sure who's the bigger fool here...

 

[Jroc]

Mr Nick.

You're wrong... the old Southern Democrats have defected to the GOP. You see in 1964 there was this Amendment to the Constitution called the "Civil Rights Amendment". Those old school Southern Democrats didn't care all that much for it. The switched affiliations and it has been that way ever since. Those formerly Blue States have long turned Red.

As far as the KKK... you are correct. They were Democrats at the time. But no longer.

How many Dixiecrats joined the GOP after 1964?

How many pre-1964 southern racist Democrat bigots did NOT join the Republican party after 1964?

Orval Fabus
Benjamin Travis Laney
John Stennis
James Eastland
Allen Ellender
Russell Long
John Sparkman
John McClellan
Richard Russell
Herman Talmadge
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
John Rarick
Robert Byrd
Al Gore, Sr.
Bull Connor

In fact, it seems that MOST of the Dixiecrats did NOT join the Republican party, even though many of them lived long past 1964.

Only a very FEW of them switched to the GOP, such as Strom Thurmond and Mills Godwin.

And as we all know by now, the ONLY admitted former KKK member in Congress today is Robert Byrd, a former KKK Kleagle, a recruiter who persuaded people to join the KKK.

So where do we get this myth that "most" of the southern racist Democrats switched to the Republican party after 1964?

Is it a myth?

Or just another Democrat LIE?
So the only Dixiecrats who switched are Thurmond, Helms, and Godwin.

Only THREE???

How many Dixiecrats joined the GOP after 1964? - Yahoo! Answers

 

[Zona]

Don't forget the KKK was like the ACORN of southern democrats for many years.

Pray tell, what party do those "Southern Democrats" belong to now?

They ditched their party REAL fast when the Civil Rights bill passed in 1965.

OH yes they did. I love when they try to actually compare the party now to then.

Regan was a fucking dem once. Things changed a little since then, ya think?

 

[Mr.Nick]

Don't forget the KKK was like the ACORN of southern democrats for many years.

Pray tell, what party do those "Southern Democrats" belong to now?

They ditched their party REAL fast when the Civil Rights bill passed in 1965.

yep...

LBJ only said: "I'm going to have every ****** voting democrat for the next 100 years."

 

[Mr.Nick]

It was about giving into the Southern Colonies to get the Constitution passed.

What???

Geez our public schools suck...

The only thing that sucks is you Apologists for Southern slavery. The Constitution was meant to make all men equal under the law. The South refused to sign that so a COMPROMISE occurred allowing slavery to remain and even giving the Southern Slave States some votes for their slaves. Pretty simple concept, well document historically and easily learned before the Liberals watered down history teaching in our public schools.

I'm not apologizing for anything, I was born in 1980 and I have nothing to do with any of that bullshit...

 

[Salt Jones]

Pray tell, what party do those "Southern Democrats" belong to now?

They ditched their party REAL fast when the Civil Rights bill passed in 1965.

yep...

LBJ only said: "I'm going to have every ****** voting democrat for the next 100 years."

Is that what happened to the white conservatives?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What???

Geez our public schools suck...

The only thing that sucks is you Apologists for Southern slavery. The Constitution was meant to make all men equal under the law. The South refused to sign that so a COMPROMISE occurred allowing slavery to remain and even giving the Southern Slave States some votes for their slaves. Pretty simple concept, well document historically and easily learned before the Liberals watered down history teaching in our public schools.

I'm not apologizing for anything, I was born in 1980 and I have nothing to do with any of that bullshit...

Five myths about why the South seceded - The Washington Post

Try this out you dumb ass.

 

[Steelplate]

I cant tell you how everyone thought of slaves in 1866, that why we have books.

Yeah... and you are sorely in need of them.

 

[del]

Okay, I won't.

I also won't forget that most current members of the KKK are either Republicans or vote for Republicans.

Thats a straight up lie....

You just WANT to believe that bullshit.

It gives you an excuse to talk shit and vent your problems.

love me some unintended irony

yum

 

[Mr.Nick]

The only thing that sucks is you Apologists for Southern slavery. The Constitution was meant to make all men equal under the law. The South refused to sign that so a COMPROMISE occurred allowing slavery to remain and even giving the Southern Slave States some votes for their slaves. Pretty simple concept, well document historically and easily learned before the Liberals watered down history teaching in our public schools.

I'm not apologizing for anything, I was born in 1980 and I have nothing to do with any of that bullshit...

Five myths about why the South seceded - The Washington Post

Try this out you dumb ass.

Your dumb fucking link vs my books......mmmmmmm.

 

[The T]

I wonder if this poster is willing the address the 3/5ths COMPROMISE that was fronted in the adoption of the Constitution?

And CAN the OP tell us what it was about?

It was about giving into the Southern Colonies to get the Constitution passed.

What???

Geez our public schools suck...

Let’s bury this “three-fifths of a person” nonsense. The people who spout this idiocy are either lying or grossly ignorant. With the Times, I’ll take lying; with Fox News Channel, I’ll assume ignorance. Just how hard is it to read the Constitution to see what it really says? If that leaves you still confused, allow me to help you out here with a little history lesson about the Three-fifths Compromise reached at the Philadelphia Convention of 1787. You’ll see that there is no evidence to support oft-repeated claims by so many liberals and race pimps that the Constitution is racist.

In 1787, delegates from 13 colonies were meeting in Philadelphia trying to hammer out a document to form a new union — The United States of America. Different colonies, though, had different goals. The Northern colonies were determined to end slavery. Southern colonies felt slavery was necessary for their economic survival. The issue came to a head during discussions on how the populations of the various states would be counted to determine representation in the newly formed House of Representatives. Convention delegates opposed to slavery (generally from the North) wanted to count only the free inhabitants of each state. Southern delegates wanted every slave counted. Why? Because the higher population numbers would give them more members in the House.

A compromise was reached. For the purpose of congressional apportionment, Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the new Constitution provided that the state populations would be determined by the number of free persons in each state and adding “three fifths of all other persons.” In other words, for every 100 slaves in the state, 60 people would be added to its population count. Indentured slaves were counted as free persons and “Indians not taxed” were left out of the tally entirely. There was NO mention of race and NO suggestion that anyone counted as three-fifths of a human being. There were, by the way, black slave owners who were counted and white slaves who were not. But let’s not cause too much stress for delicate minds...

SOURCE

____________________

WHY would Non-slave States capitulate in giving Southern States MORE power in the electorate by counting people whom were NOT free by BODY COUNT? Free to Vote? Have Freedom of their own accord?

Especially when we were a YOUNG country and had just WON our independence from a CROWN that practiced Slavery, and did NOT accord slaves freedom but to acheive political goals?

We fought for FREEDOM...were the SLAVES free to vote at that time?

*NO* they were not.

AS the Constitution was worded for apportionment of Electors?

WHY give States that held SLAVES that were denied FREEDOM more of a say?

*LOGIC* The 3/5ths agreemmnet settled the deal...and was later carried to it's fruition in the CIVIL WAR.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I cant tell you how everyone thought of slaves in 1866, that why we have books.

Yeah... and you are sorely in need of them.

What sources and citations do you have that validates your assertion on the Civil War??

 

[del]

Mr Nick.

You're wrong... the old Southern Democrats have defected to the GOP. You see in 1964 there was this Amendment to the Constitution called the "Civil Rights Amendment". Those old school Southern Democrats didn't care all that much for it. The switched affiliations and it has been that way ever since. Those formerly Blue States have long turned Red.

As far as the KKK... you are correct. They were Democrats at the time. But no longer.

what the fuck are you talking about?

there's no such thing as the "civil rights amendment".

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Political Junky]

Okay, I won't.

I also won't forget that most current members of the KKK are either Republicans or vote for Republicans.

You have proof?

Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan: Knights Party

Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America! A Message of Love NOT Hate!
PO Box 2222, Harrison, AR 72601
870-427-3414


Click here for the main Knights Party, USA website

America, Our Nation is Under Judgement from God!
"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Okay, I won't.

I also won't forget that most current members of the KKK are either Republicans or vote for Republicans.

You have proof?

Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan: Knights Party

Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America! A Message of Love NOT Hate!
PO Box 2222, Harrison, AR 72601
870-427-3414


Click here for the main Knights Party, USA website

America, Our Nation is Under Judgement from God!
"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb

Nothing about Republicans there.

 

[Mr.Nick]

It was about giving into the Southern Colonies to get the Constitution passed.

What???

Geez our public schools suck...

Let’s bury this “three-fifths of a person” nonsense. The people who spout this idiocy are either lying or grossly ignorant. With the Times, I’ll take lying; with Fox News Channel, I’ll assume ignorance. Just how hard is it to read the Constitution to see what it really says? If that leaves you still confused, allow me to help you out here with a little history lesson about the Three-fifths Compromise reached at the Philadelphia Convention of 1787. You’ll see that there is no evidence to support oft-repeated claims by so many liberals and race pimps that the Constitution is racist.

In 1787, delegates from 13 colonies were meeting in Philadelphia trying to hammer out a document to form a new union — The United States of America. Different colonies, though, had different goals. The Northern colonies were determined to end slavery. Southern colonies felt slavery was necessary for their economic survival. The issue came to a head during discussions on how the populations of the various states would be counted to determine representation in the newly formed House of Representatives. Convention delegates opposed to slavery (generally from the North) wanted to count only the free inhabitants of each state. Southern delegates wanted every slave counted. Why? Because the higher population numbers would give them more members in the House.

A compromise was reached. For the purpose of congressional apportionment, Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the new Constitution provided that the state populations would be determined by the number of free persons in each state and adding “three fifths of all other persons.” In other words, for every 100 slaves in the state, 60 people would be added to its population count. Indentured slaves were counted as free persons and “Indians not taxed” were left out of the tally entirely. There was NO mention of race and NO suggestion that anyone counted as three-fifths of a human being. There were, by the way, black slave owners who were counted and white slaves who were not. But let’s not cause too much stress for delicate minds...

SOURCE

____________________

WHY would Non-slave States capitulate in giving Southern States MORE power in the electorate by counting people whom were NOT free by BODY COUNT? Free to Vote? Have Freedom of their own accord?

Especially when we were a YOUNG country and had just WON our independence from a CROWN that practiced Slavery, and did NOT accord slaves freedom but to acheive political goals?

We fought for FREEDOM...were the SLAVES free to vote at that time?

*NO* they were not.

AS the Constitution was worded for apportionment of Electors?

WHY give States that held SLAVES that were denied FREEDOM more of a say?

*LOGIC* The 3/5ths agreemmnet settled the deal...and was later carried to it's fruition in the CIVIL WAR.

Its somewhat valid.. That 3/5ths thing was waaaaay before the Civil War...

That was a colonial thing.

I don't want to get into that now because its irrelevant.

 

[del]

Okay, I won't.

I also won't forget that most current members of the KKK are either Republicans or vote for Republicans.

You have proof?

Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan: Knights Party

Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America! A Message of Love NOT Hate!
PO Box 2222, Harrison, AR 72601
870-427-3414


Click here for the main Knights Party, USA website

America, Our Nation is Under Judgement from God!
"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb

gee, i had no idea that the KKK was made up of white supremicist nutbars.


thanks, cap'n!

 

[Jroc]

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[Steelplate]

I cant tell you how everyone thought of slaves in 1866, that why we have books.

Yeah... and you are sorely in need of them.

What sources and citations do you have that validates your assertion on the Civil War??

Have you read " A People's History of The United States" By Howard Zinn....

Of course not... he was a "pinko/commie/socialist/bastard".

However... to this day... they use it in most of our universities as a supplemental history. One that shows "the other side" of our great nation. Not as a mainstream... but as a supplement. To show that:

A. Things were never as rosy as we think.
B. That those people who suffered with nothing actually did matter.

and finally

C. That powerful people with selfish goals are just as fucked up as totalitarian governments.

The truth is.. the Civil War was fought because rich white people in one geographic area did not want to relinquish their meal ticket.... Slavery, and Rich white people in another geographic area felt "above" the idea of slavery(conveniently... their growing seasons were much shorter).

The cause of the Civil War wasn't as much about slavery as it was about power. But slavery was the catalyst.